Madara or the Rikudo?

[Sennin of Logic]

What ever you say, young man.



Rinnegan is apparently able to use Yin-Yang techniques. Cool fan-fic. Now, manga please?



Stupid or idiot? How does that translate Rinnegan controlling Chakra of Bijuu's? It doesn't. Your reading skills are piss poor and you cannot comprehend anything. What ever move Sasuke used to control the 9 Bijuu, is exactly the same way Obito and Madara used to control the Juubi. That is what Kurama compared; and that is the skills in controlling the Bijuu's to Hagoromo, and doesn't translate to Rinnegan's skills, because the Rinnegan was never used to merge the Chakra together.



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I just brought a proof that Madara states he has the combined power of Rikudou Senjutsu and Rinnegan; and you somehow ass-pulled that he can't use it at its full potential without bringing a proof.

Ok, I'm done. It's clear that you toss out anything you don't like to make Madara look good. You're a tremendous waste of time.

 

[Benjamin King]

Ok, I'm done. It's clear that you toss out anything you don't like to make Madara look good. You're a tremendous waste of time.

Concession accepted.

 

[Draphsin]

Hagoromo > Madara

Ootsutsuki JJ > Uchiha JJ

 

[NarutoKage2]

Looking at it from a logical standpoint, Hagoromo stomps. They're both juubi jins so take that out of the equation. You have rinnegan Madara vs Pre Juubi Hagoromo. Now Pre juubi Hagoromo defeated the juubi along with Hamura. Now if we assume Hamura and Hagoromo were roughly equal, that means Madara should be able to defeat Kaguya Juubi with someone equal to himself, say 2 Madaras. This is where the question lies. If anyone thinks 2 Juubiless Madara can beat the juubi or create the ****ing moon.

It goes a step further than that. As opposed to having a stone monument that already told him a lot, madara would have had to figure out himself how to seal the juubi in the first place, so its zero info madara vs hagoromo to put the fight in its proper perspective.

Hagoromo > Madara

Ootsutsuki JJ > Uchiha JJ

Truth's been spoken.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

Concession accepted.

No No No. You didn't disprove any of my points. I just flat-out think that you're a lost cause. I could actually go on and on and snap your arguments in 2, but quite frankly, a real fanboy never changes his mind no matter how much evidence is thrown at his face. I'm no longer in the mood to discuss with someone who irritates me.


Edit: Oh, and I forgot to bring this up. This is gold. Because I give up on you, you say it's a concession, so what about the other guy you debated? You had every intention of giving up on him. Should I also take that you conceded that argument since you did what you consider a concession?

 

[voids]

Rikudou and Madara all have the same powers. Rinnegan, Yin-Yang Chakra, Juubi's while Madara has his Uchiha's powers, which Hagoromo most likely possess as well. It comes down to whose intellectual enough to use his powers effectively, and Madara being the veteran warrior with hundred years of experience, without doubt use his powers better. Madara has an edge.​

Shut up please.

 

[ShinjuMadara]

Madara is stronger. He has the powers of not only Hagoromo, but also Indra and Asura

furthermore, the tailed beasts he absorbed were stronger (they were just babies when the SO6P had them)

Also, extra eye and strongest Genjutsu as well as all releases (storm, lava, ice, etc.) belong to Madara

The SO6P has the basic 5

The SO6P is strong, no doubt, but Juubi Jin Madara soloes him mid diff

 

[Scryed]

I'll go with Hagoromo

IMO

Kaguya > Hagoromo > Madara

Although some people have recently began to make me think that Naruto and Sasuke have surpassed JJ Madara.

 

[PIOLO]

Yeah, yeah you are still babbling the same stuff. Now let's me show you arguments of Hagoromo's supperiority to Madara:

1) Both Hagoromo and Madara were Ten tails hosts at one point, the difference is that Hagoromo had Yin Kurama chakra as well which Madara lacked
2) Both Hagoromo and Madara have all elements, the difference is that Hagoromo had mastery over them, especially Yin and yang release(look at seals) while Madara does not have(lack of seals)
3) Both Hagoromo and Madara have Senjutsu of six paths, despite that fact Hagoromo's Senjutsu given to Naruto was supperior to Madara's Senjutsu just like Hagoromo's rinnegan given to Sasuke was superrior to Madara's Rinnegan
4) Both Hagoromo and Madara have a lot of expierience. While Madara is really expert in battle which Hagoromo most likely lack to some degreee. However Hagoromo had longer Rinnegan(almost since birth) and was much longer Host of Ten tails being better acustomed to it's power.
5) Both Hagoromo and Madara have goudama, yet Madara's use of goudama is shown being below Obito's use of goudama while Hagoromo has not shown too much, but through Obito we know that Nunoboko sword is Hagoromo's goudama shaping into that shape.
6) Both Hagoromo and Madara have mastery over Rinnegan, yet it was Hagoromo's hype which surprass Madara's use of Rinnegan. The limbo is question although...

The only advantage of Madara over Hagoromo is Third eye, which only is capable of IT going by feats and yet Hagoromo was not afraid of IT as he knows way to undo it. He has also means to do that no problem. They are both wise and intelligent being so it could be close, but Hagoromo has a little edge, also EMS or any sharingan moves are useless against Hagoromo.

Assuming that limbo is only Madara's ability , Hagoromo having many special traits one of them being Kekkei moura make me more then certain it could counter it.

Now your turn, bring me scans or Madara's feats/hype because stating over and over the same stuff will not win anything

ok what makes you think those two character to tell me what you know making the real owner who i believed much knowing them both concede he dont have any idea how to defeat him even hago telling that madara approaching his mother level....