[Discussion] Is Marco the strongest firstmate?

Is he?

  • Obviously

    Votes: 10 45.5%
  • Nope

    Votes: 9 40.9%
  • Not sure

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Bogard

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I think he is because Marco isn't a normal first mate you can find it other yonkou crews because his captain is the strongest man in the world, above even the other yonkou. Shanks himself, a strong yonkou by his own right pretty much admitted that Whitebeard's position(that Teach would try to eventually take over) is supreme, above even the top: So because he is the first mate of someone above yonkou, doesn't prove the yonkous are above him(not saying it's the case or not though, but you get the point).

Hype and Character strength

Marco is someone highly confident in his potential abilities to the point of

1- Talking down to even a yonkou like Shanks:
2- Joking around admiral attacks:
3- Being full confident he could rescue Ace by himself despite being guarded by a fleet admiral(Sengoku) and a legendary marine(Garp):

WB himself trust his power enough to:

1- Give him full responsibility in protecting Luffy against any enemy in marineford:

The Gorosei themselves:

1- Put him in the same breath with yonkous
2- Highly confident in his strength to the point they think he is the only one besides Yonkous themselves who can take down Teach

And yes i know they said Marco and the remnants Whitebeard, but it's the same with Yonkou and Teach. When they are mentioned, it's obviously not just the captains. Marco was under WB on the otherside, so they couldn't have said and Yonkou Marco or the Marco pirates. It's for that reason they said Marco and the remnants Whitebeard pirates.

Marco's name was clearly spoken separately from the rest of the crew, indication that he is the strongest & most important member. They considered him specifically out his group & made the comparison. Just like you would say Shanks and the Red Hair, Big Mom and the Big Mom pirates and now Marco and the WB remnants and so on.

It's a crew vs crew in globality but with the captains as main factors. Even after losing their captain, their 2nd division commander, their 3rd division commander being permanently crippled, & overall their entire crew being severely crippled, distraught, and emotional torn after battling the entire force of the WG, they were still compared to the other yonkou with Marco as their leader

Feats

Kizaru couldn't make him tangible while using his strongest attack to date(yasaka no magatama). Marco on the other side while shrugging off Kizaru's attacks as if nothing happened, flew in and appeared above Kizaru before he even had time to realise it, forced Kizaru into a guarded position, and actually break through his guard with sheer force, sending him crashing to ground from an insane distance in marineford at an incredible speed: After which, Kizaru even warned the other marines to be weary of Marco. He also came at Aokiji with enough power, he broke through his weapon and still had enough force to send him flying: This let's you know he is at least on par with the admirals when it comes to physical strength if not above. He is a zoan after all(and a mythical one). The best fruit when it comes to physical strength boost

In terms of endurance/stamina, he shrugged off a heavy punch from Garp, tanking multiple lasers in back from Kizaru even while under the effects of sea-stone(even a blast right through the chest): , and showed no signs of slowing down even till the end of the war. One of those lasers alone was enough to take down supernovas in Shabondy. Multiple of them don't take down Marco despite letting his guard down, being under kairoseki(so impossibility to regenerate) and being heavily restricted
 

ToadSageNaruto

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i wouldn't put any other 1st mates in the same breath as him. aside from rayleigh and ben beckman. the latter, i admit, is sheer hype. just the badassery when he told kizaru not to move.
 

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Rayleigh would be the strongest.

But from those still active i'd go with Marco.

Beckmann is featless so i wont say anything about him.
 

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Idk about pre TS (we son't even know 2 of the Yonko first mates), though given that he is WB's and Beckman ks Shanks' its possible (mahbe even likely) they are the stronger ones

Post TS .... again it comes down to those 2, but Marco is a captain now so Oda might have given him a bit more of a boost :)
 

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Silvers Rayleigh...

And currently we haven't seen anything from Beckman, so he might be for now the strongest...
but he isn't first mate, he's the commander of the main division of WB's crew...
 

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We haven't seen anything from BBM but I believe that he's stronger. that's my personal opinion though.


Btw, Shanks never put WBs position above his own but he admitted inferiority against WB in terms of strength.
 

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Well he's not a first mate, but if he was he'd be above Beckman since he's basically on par with Admirals portrayal wise and has a lot of hype.
 
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