[VS] 1 MS Obito vs 1 MS Kakashi

[maniaoqan]

Obito wins this match without much difficulty. People say because of intel Kakashi can send a kagebunshin to kamuiland. Intel is for both sides you jackasses so Obito knows about Kakashi's habit of Raiton Bunshin trick. He still has upperhand since Kakashi will grow tired sooner than Obito if he plays with his MS too much.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

If Obito was to take away intangibility, he'll just be forced to kill them:

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How does Obito lose to a clone when he can off panel a group of kage level anbu?

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kage level anbu

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[10th]

Obito wins this at the lowest diff. People tend to underrated 1 Ms non rinnegan Obito, I don't think one person would say Nagato would beat Madara.

 

[Scryed]

If Kakashi sends a clone to Obito's dimension, can't Obito just eject it like he ejects giant shuriken from his dimension?

 

[BenjerminGaye]

If Kakashi sends a clone to Obito's dimension, can't Obito just eject it like he ejects giant shuriken from his dimension?

Doubtful. Since kakashi is the one who sent it there. If that were the case kakashi would have access to his giant shuriken as well.

 

[My Username]

Doubtful. Since kakashi is the one who sent it there. If that were the case kakashi would have access to his giant shuriken as well.

But Kakashi doesnt know where Obito stored it

 

[VongolaX]

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Do you know how many high level anbu's equate to a kage?

 

[BenjerminGaye]

But Kakashi doesnt know where Obito stored it

So? The location matters not since they don't go into kamui land to pull things out of it.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Do you know how many high level anbu's equate to a kage?

Niqqa, Do you?

 

[KamuiGodObito]

Wasn't referring to you. I was referring to the idiot that thinks MS Obito is on blind Madara level and can solo the Gokage with full Intel Lol.

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That was a genjustu the scan you just posted.

 

[maniaoqan]

That was a genjustu the scan you just posted.

He was talking about the time when Kyuubi throw Kakashi at Obito and he attacked from otherside while Naruto attacked from real world. But that was a team display which holds no value on One on One.

 

[VongolaX]

Niqqa, Do you?

If you look at what akatsuki members like Sasori accomplished to a kage, it won't be a lot I can tell you that.

Kid Obito took out about fifty plus in one night.

 

[lanakui8]

Don't know what you're posting here, those alliance members were in the air, naruto was right next to Obito.

kiba travels from outside of the panel to right next to naruto before naruto completes his chakra swipe, which is a much greater distance than naruto travels.

No, this argument is about Obito beating Kakashi without the use of kamui.

If he were to fight kcm naruto, Obito would use black rods all the way to negate his Justus, bind him, and absorb all his chakra if naruto decides to come in range.

black rods don't negate jutsu, they only bind if they are stabbed into naruto or if naruto is grabbing them which never happens since naruto's normal rasengans have shattered those black rods without the slightest problems. A KCM clone would oneshot obito with guided rasenshuriken, black rods would be sliced through as if they weren't even there.

Obito w/o kamui is a fodder to KCM NAruto.

Okay 0_o

14 year old Obito off panelled a kage who was also a perfect jinchuuriki.

So? we're given no knowledge on how or how much effort he did that with AND obito had kamui. So what in the world does that have to do with obito's level w/o kamui?

So I fail to see your point, since Obito just neg diff a kcm clone with one swing.

Mr. Kage level clone

Why is obito w/ kamui defeating a kage level oponent with unknown amounts of difficulty = obito w/o kamui defeating a kage level opponent w/ neg difficulty?

I fail to see how anyone would understand your reasoning here.

Those were Hiruzen's guards, he killed the high level anbu personal guards for Hiruzen.
That's the highest Jounin position you can get.

Since when are the hokage's guards the highest level of jounin one can get? Once again, genma and raido, people who aren't even jounins, rather specialist jounins were Minato's guards, by what logic would Hiruzen's guards be the highest level of jounin?

 

[VongolaX]

kiba travels from outside of the panel to right next to naruto before naruto completes his chakra swipe, which is a much greater distance than naruto travels.

There was one or two ninjas jumping towards him and another one just standing there.

Kcm naruto was not running side by side with Kiba

black rods don't negate jutsu, they only bind if they are stabbed into naruto or if naruto is grabbing them which never happens since naruto's normal rasengans have shattered those black rods without the slightest problems. A KCM clone would oneshot obito with guided rasenshuriken, black rods would be sliced through as if they weren't even there.

I'm not talking abou the black rods that were transferring outer path chakra, I'm referring to the one Obito used to negate Sasuke's Enton arrow before absorbing the juubi.

Obito w/o kamui is a fodder to KCM NAruto.

And you're high out of your mind.

Ms Obito has mokuton spikes, juubi size Katon, yin yang release and six path technique via black rods.

He loses badly

So? we're given no knowledge on how or how much effort he did that with AND obito had kamui. So what in the world does that have to do with obito's level w/o kamui?

The effort here is that he destroyed a clone with brute force

He deflected kcm naruto's rasengan before with the fan

Why is obito w/ kamui defeating a kage level oponent with unknown amounts of difficulty = obito w/o kamui defeating a kage level opponent w/ neg difficulty?

Intentions period.

I fail to see how anyone would understand your reasoning here.

Two people did...

Got a nice rep for it

Since when are the hokage's guards the highest level of jounin one can get? Once again, genma and raido, people who aren't even jounins, rather specialist jounins were Minato's guards, by what logic would Hiruzen's guards be the highest level of jounin?

Gemma and radio are not anbu's

And you clearly didn't read my scan of what minato said.

 

[EKSITE]

Damn that restriction lol take everything from obito why don't you but I think obito wins mid diff

 

[BenjerminGaye]

If you look at what akatsuki members like Sasori accomplished to a kage, it won't be a lot I can tell you that.

Kid Obito took out about fifty plus in one night.

Those weren't even real ninja tho.....
I can't. Ur fcking up left and right.

 

[VongolaX]

Those weren't even real ninja tho.....
I can't. Ur fcking up left and right.

Ya they are real anbu mist ninjas 0_o

Madara put them under his control for that time being.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Ya they are real anbu mist ninjas 0_o

Madara put them under his control for that time being.

Even soo they're fodder. Like really bro? Iruka lvl at best. Everyone knows anbu without names are fodder.

 

[VongolaX]

Even soo they're fodder. Like really bro? Iruka lvl at best. Everyone knows anbu without names are fodder.

What? :|

You do realize that Iruka's a chuunin right?

So you come to the conclusion that just because you don't know there names, their rank means nothing and they are fodders?

 

[lanakui8]

There was one or two ninjas jumping towards him and another one just standing there.

Kcm naruto was not running side by side with Kiba

....which is completely irrelevant to the point that kiba is not shown in the panel and then appears right next to naruto before naruto can complete the claw swipe. The one standing next to naruto wasn't kiba, if the other two ninjas jumping toward him were kiba, they still traveled a greater distance than naruto did.

I'm not talking abou the black rods that were transferring outer path chakra, I'm referring to the one Obito used to negate Sasuke's Enton arrow before absorbing the juubi.

Since those chakra rods didn't absorb anything, then why do you claim that they have the power to absorb ninjutsu?

And you're high out of your mind.

Ms Obito has mokuton spikes, juubi size Katon, yin yang release and six path technique via black rods.

....and KCM NAruto can take attacks that are far more penetrating than mokuton spikes, juubi-sized katon required kamui, and obito has never used yin yang release nor the So6P technique via black rods unless you are talking about obito after he stole madara's juubi chakra, then that's a whole different story.

The effort here is that he destroyed a clone with brute force

He deflected kcm naruto's rasengan before with the fan

....yet he needed kamui to land the hit on the clone, and KCM clones have incomparably greater attacks than rasengan, and can fire multiple rasengans from different angles via chakra arms.

Intentions period.

Two people did...

Got a nice rep for it

That shows that people will just + rep arguments as long as it complies with whatever agendas they have going for them regardless of what logic the arguments utilize.

I want you to literally explain to me why you think an obito with kamui beating a kage level opponent with unknown amounts of difficulty would imply he beats a kage level opponent with neg difficulty without even using kamui.

Gemma and radio are not anbu's

And you clearly didn't read my scan of what minato said.

So what if they aren't anbus? If lowerclass jounins can be the hokage guards, then why in the world would anbu being hokage's guards = they are the highest class of jounin?