[VS] 1 MS Obito vs 1 MS Kakashi

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Obito one shots? The clone got warped to the other dimension. Read the manga. Kakashi sent Naruto's clone to the other dimension so fast that obito couldn't even see it. Get this fodder out of here please.

KCM naruto:

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Now I know your reading maybe be a little bit rusty, but don't compare your reading skills to mine.

He got one shotted

Kakashi sends his own clone to the other dimension as fast as he did it with Naruto's. Obito wont be on time to cancel it

There is no cancelling Kamui, he'll just one shot it like naruto's clone.
 

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I love how everyone forgets about this chapter.Lol

Honestly it's hilarious, just wait for them to post the kamui dimension battle.

I got a post for that one too...
 

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I love how everyone forgets about this chapter.Lol

I love how Obitards don't realize Kakashi was distraught asking Obito what happened to him Lol
 

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not only was the clone made in order to get one-shot, thus creating an opening for the real to hit obito, but obito needed to use intangibility against it in order to beat it.

take away the intangibility, and the clone oneshots, just look at what it did to sandaime raikage.

If Obito was to take away intangibility, he'll just be forced to kill them:

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How does Obito lose to a clone when he can off panel a group of kage level anbu?

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I'm not an Obitard.U_U

If you don't want to see bullsh*t, ignore list him

It's the best thing I've ever done....

No more stupidity on my screen, it's amazing.
 

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If Obito was to take away intangibility, he'll just be forced to kill them:

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which never happens considering not even sandaime raikage can avoid attacks from a KCM clone.

How does Obito lose to a clone when he can off panel a group of kage level anbu?

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What in the world implied those anbu were kage-level, and why do you assert obito didn't use intangibility to beat them or sneak up on them? A KCM Naruto clone fights at the kage level and can land attacks on people as fast as sandaime raikage, that's why obito doesn't beat it w/o intangibility.
 

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I'm not an Obitard.U_U

Wasn't referring to you. I was referring to the idiot that thinks MS Obito is on blind Madara level and can solo the Gokage with full Intel Lol.

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which never happens considering not even sandaime raikage can avoid attacks from a KCM clone.

Comparing an S/T user to a shuushin user are we?

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Kumai slow transfer speed> kcm naruto

What in the world implied those anbu were kage-level, and why do you assert obito didn't use intangibility to beat them or sneak up on them? A KCM Naruto clone fights at the kage level and can land attacks on people as fast as sandaime raikage, that's why obito doesn't beat it w/o intangibility.

You quoted the wrong person...

OT: anbu directly under the kages, so they're not kage level but they're stronger than a stupid clone:

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Even if we assume that they will be equal in a taijutsu battle, Obito can use to catch Kakashi by suprize and then stab him with a chakra rod. After Kakashi's chakra has been disrupted, Obito will gain the advantage of the fight, and finish off Kakashi with a .
 

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I'm just going to end this off with this...

Besides the use of kamui and mokuton, we know he has other move-sets bestowed from Madara.

If worse comes to worse Obito has these to kill:

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If you don't believe them it, wait for the complete databook to come out.

It already revealed one of them in the databook, just wait for the other three to be revealed.
 

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Even if we assume that they will be equal in a taijutsu battle, Obito can use to catch Kakashi by suprize and then stab him with a chakra rod. After Kakashi's chakra has been disrupted, Obito will gain the advantage of the fight, and finish off Kakashi with a .

^^This too
 

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Kakashi wins, how desperate using Kakashi and Obitos first battle as a basis for any argument. Kakashi wasn't in his right mind, he was shocked, guilty and had no intention of harming Obito. Not to mention he was exhausted and almost completely out of chakra, he could barely defend himself.

With intel and pure killing intent, Kakashi wins med diff. He just needs to send a clone to the kamui dimension and the clone and real Kaakshi gang bang Obito from both dimensions. Obitos kamui then becomes useless. Obito ain't cancelling Kakashi's kamui. He cancelled the mazo attempt because it required more chakra and time to warp, so Obito had plenty of time to stop it. But Kakashi has shown to be able to warp human sized objects (and smaller) in an instant.

Who says Obito even has to see Kakashi warp the clone. Being the clever ninja that Kaakshi is, he can create an earth wall to cover himself and then quickly make a shadow clone and send it to the other dimension. He can then send the clone into the other dimension, without Obito even realising. Then all Kakashi has to do is force Obito to use his intangibility once, and the Kakashi clone will Lightning blade his ass.
 
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Kakashi wins.

He sends a clone to the other dimension. (Obito can't cancel it, he canceled the one on the gedo mazo's head just because he was able to react to it, because warping large objects takes more time, but when kakashi warps human sized objects, Obito can't even see it, like it hapened to BM Naruto's clone) So Obito isn't cancelling it.

When he sends the clone to the other dimension then what is left is 3 tomoe kakashi vs 3tomoe Obito.

Kakashi is just superior on the base ninja skills.

Clones aint doing shit
They would disappear with one shot and Kakashi's clones are not on the level on Naruto's clones

And Obito has been fighting Kage Level Shinobi and you think a clone would do shit?

OT - Obito wins low-med diff
Obito would use his superior speed and kill him with Mokuton branch
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Obito can break Kakashi's neck with just a kick
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This jutsu would slaughter Kakashi
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And not to mention Kakashi would get roasted via Katon
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Overall Obito is stronger,faster,has more chakra and stamina so he is really too much for Kakashi
 
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Kakashi wins, how desperate using Kakashi and Obitos first battle as a basis for any argument. Kakashi wasn't in his right mind, he was shocked, guilty and had no intention of harming Obito. Not to mention he was exhausted and almost completely out of chakra, he could barely defend himself.

With intel and pure killing intent, Kakashi wins med diff. He just needs to send a clone to the kamui dimension and the clone and real Kaakshi gang bang Obito from both dimensions. Obitos kamui then becomes useless. Obito ain't cancelling Kakashi's kamui. He cancelled the mazo attempt because it required more chakra and time to warp, so Obito had plenty of time to stop it. But Kakashi has shown to be able to warp human sized objects (and smaller) in an instant.

Who says Obito even has to see Kakashi warp the clone. Being the clever ninja that Kaakshi is, he can create an earth wall to cover himself and then quickly make a shadow clone and send it to the other dimension. He can then send the clone into the other dimension, without Obito even realising. Then all Kakashi has to do is force Obito to use his intangibility once, and the Kakashi clone will Lightning blade his ass.
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Obito said the Rinnegan took a toll on him so Obito was equally as drained as Kakashi and Obito was not also in his right mind since he was fixated with Naruto's ideals and constantly questioning him

Oh btw when Kakashi fought Obito in Kamui World...
1- Obito let him win
2- Kakashi had a chakra boost via Kurama
 

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Kakashi wins, how desperate using Kakashi and Obitos first battle as a basis for any argument. Kakashi wasn't in his right mind, he was shocked, guilty and had no intention of harming Obito. Not to mention he was exhausted and almost completely out of chakra, he could barely defend himself.

With intel and pure killing intent, Kakashi wins med diff. He just needs to send a clone to the kamui dimension and the clone and real Kaakshi gang bang Obito from both dimensions. Obitos kamui then becomes useless. Obito ain't cancelling Kakashi's kamui. He cancelled the mazo attempt because it required more chakra and time to warp, so Obito had plenty of time to stop it. But Kakashi has shown to be able to warp human sized objects (and smaller) in an instant.

Who says Obito even has to see Kakashi warp the clone. Being the clever ninja that Kaakshi is, he can create an earth wall to cover himself and then quickly make a shadow clone and send it to the other dimension. He can then send the clone into the other dimension, without Obito even realising. Then all Kakashi has to do is force Obito to use his intangibility once, and the Kakashi clone will Lightning blade his ass.
Try to counter mine post.
 

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Comparing an S/T user to a shuushin user are we?

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Kumai slow transfer speed> kcm naruto
The V1 alliance members were traveling far faster than KCM Naruto in that instance. KCM Naruto using his max speed blitzes obito before he warps away.

But anyways, that's all irrelevant since the argument is about KCM Naruto vs Obito w/o kamui.


You quoted the wrong person...

OT: anbu directly under the kages, so they're not kage level but they're stronger than a stupid clone:

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Except that 'stupid clone' is kage level since it can fight at the level of kages and even defeat kages, which makes them above those anbu.

Genma and raido were minato's personal guard and they aren't even legitimate jounins, only special jounins.
 

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The V1 alliance members were traveling far faster than KCM Naruto in that instance. KCM Naruto using his max speed blitzes obito before he warps away.

Don't know what you're posting here, those alliance members were in the air, naruto was right next to Obito.

But anyways, that's all irrelevant since the argument is about KCM Naruto vs Obito w/o kamui.

No, this argument is about Obito beating Kakashi without the use of kamui.

If he were to fight kcm naruto, Obito would use black rods all the way to negate his Justus, bind him, and absorb all his chakra if naruto decides to come in range.


Except that 'stupid clone' is kage level since it can fight at the level of kages and even defeat kages, which makes them above those anbu.

Okay 0_o

14 year old Obito off panelled a kage who was also a perfect jinchuuriki.

So I fail to see your point, since Obito just neg diff a kcm clone with one swing.

Mr. Kage level clone

Genma and raido were minato's personal guard and they aren't even legitimate jounins, only special jounins.

Those were Hiruzen's guards, he killed the high level anbu personal guards for Hiruzen.
That's the highest Jounin position you can get.
 
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^^This is about kakashi's clones, don't deviate from the main topic
 

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lanakui8 don't even bother with that clown saying Genma and Raido > KCM Naruto clone, even though KCM Naruto clones practically cleared the battlefield when Naruto arrived and even tangled with Rinnegan Madara.
 
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