Top 20 - it doesn't get any better than this.

[Beans2]

Naa, Mizukage is at the right spot. And about Muu I was wondering whether I should put him above FTG users but decided not to, at least for now.

Gai beat severely weakened, almost-out-of-chakra Kisame with no Samehada and no intel. It isn't happening again.

2nd Mizukage doesn't beat Minato, Tobirama, Mu, Kisame, Itachi, or Danzo...he shouldn't be on this list. Mu remains under FTG users for various reasons. Yes, Gai beats Kisame everytime. Kisame was not weakened in their last battle (Samehada healed him and replenished him with Bee's chakra), and this fact is further confirmed by Kisame summoning 1,000 sharks - something a person who is almost out of chakra cannot do. Kisame even had the location advantage. The only thing he was missing was Samehada, and that's not very useful against Gai who uses taijutsu.

Gaara should be on this list. He beats 2nd Mizukage, Minato, Tobirama, Itachi, possibly Danzo, and possibly Mu.

 

[Killua Zoldyck]

2nd Mizukage doesn't beat Minato, Tobirama, Mu, Kisame, Itachi, or Danzo...he shouldn't be on this list. Mu remains under FTG users for various reasons.

Gaara should be on this list. He beats 2nd Mizukage, Minato, Tobirama, Itachi, possibly Danzo, and possibly Mu.

He beats Danzo, Tobirama, Minato and stalemates Mū. Gaara does not beat the 2nd Mizukage or Mū. He beats Tobirama, Minato and Itachi because he is a damn good counter to them.

That was Naruto before he got used to his powers...

It was also Madara before he got his other two eyes and lack of full set of Gūdodama which in all fairness, is a far greater handicap then simply not being used to some powers.

 

[Demonic.]

You forgot BM Minato bro

 

[Beans2]

He beats Danzo, Tobirama, Minato and stalemates Mū. Gaara does not beat the 2nd Mizukage or Mū. He beats Tobirama, Minato and Itachi because he is a damn good counter to them.

Danzo beats 2nd Mizukage. Baku to suck up the mist which causes the genjutsu, followed by Baku enhanced fuuton to cut the clam in half. Joki boy can be cut apart with fuutons. Mizukage is put under a brief sharingan genjutsu then followed by a shunshin and wind chakra blade to the heart. And Danzo gets 10 full minutes of immortality in which he can remain purely on the offensive and wear down the Mizukage without having to worry about defending himself.

Mizukage loses to Tobirama. He uses his wide-scale suiton to locate the clam and blows it up with GK. Mizukage's attacks can be evaded completely with FTG, and GK also finishes Joki Boy and the Mizukage himself. Shadow clones or Edos to deal with different attacks on different fronts. Without Edo Tensei though, I think Tobirama would lose.

Upon further consideration, I agree that Minato loses.

Exactly, Mu and Mizukage stalemate just like they did in canon. Except 2nd Mizukage is much higher than Mu on OP's list.

(Jiraiya beats 2nd Mizukage too)

Gaara beats 2nd Mizukage, more or less like he did in canon...sand sensing detects the clam which can be sealed away with a Grand Sand Mausoleum. Joki Boy can be stalled while Gaara uses his Third Eye to seek out the Mizukage (who by the way is significantly weakened when he uses his steam clone.) Mizukage is then sealed away like he was in canon.

Gaara beats Mu. Invisible sword attacks obviously won't work so Mu will need to become visible in order to prepare jinton, and Gaara would notice him instantly by literally keeping an eye out for him with the Third Eye. He is also capable of detecting Mu via sand sensing. He can mix himself in with sand clones so Mu won't know which to target. Gaara just needs to use several massive sand tsunamis with large ranges and eventually he snags him and crushes him in a sand coffin.

Exactly, Gaara beats two FTG users and an experienced MS user. That should hold some merit.

 

[Nattana]

You forgot BM Minato bro

BM Minato was Oro's zombie. It never existed on its own.

Danzo beats 2nd Mizukage. Baku to suck up the mist which causes the genjutsu, followed by Baku enhanced fuuton to cut the clam in half. Joki boy can be cut apart with fuutons. Mizukage is put under a brief sharingan genjutsu then followed by a shunshin and wind chakra blade to the heart. And Danzo gets 10 full minutes of immortality in which he can remain purely on the offensive and wear down the Mizukage without having to worry about defending himself.

Mizukage loses to Tobirama. He uses his wide-scale suiton to locate the clam and blows it up with GK. Mizukage's attacks can be evaded completely with FTG, and GK also finishes Joki Boy and the Mizukage himself. Shadow clones or Edos to deal with different attacks on different fronts. Without Edo Tensei though, I think Tobirama would lose.

Upon further consideration, I agree that Minato loses.

Exactly, Mu and Mizukage stalemate just like they did in canon. Except 2nd Mizukage is much higher than Mu on OP's list.

(Jiraiya beats 2nd Mizukage too)

Gaara beats 2nd Mizukage, more or less like he did in canon...sand sensing detects the clam which can be sealed away with a Grand Sand Mausoleum. Joki Boy can be stalled while Gaara uses his Third Eye to seek out the Mizukage (who by the way is significantly weakened when he uses his steam clone.) Mizukage is then sealed away like he was in canon.

Gaara beats Mu. Invisible sword attacks obviously won't work so Mu will need to become visible in order to prepare jinton, and Gaara would notice him instantly by literally keeping an eye out for him with the Third Eye. He is also capable of detecting Mu via sand sensing. He can mix himself in with sand clones so Mu won't know which to target. Gaara just needs to use several massive sand tsunamis with large ranges and eventually he snags him and crushes him in a sand coffin.

Exactly, Gaara beats two FTG users and an experienced MS user. That should hold some merit.

While I agree that Danzo would most definitely win against 2nd Mizukage, it doesn't mean their positions (overall) aren't reasonable. Mizukage beats everyone else below him.

Tobirama doesn't have any wide-scale Suiton. The only AoE Suiton he's shown so far was some fodder-level one in P1 and even though we all know there was power scaling and that he was weakened - feats are feats. And with his Suiton feats he can't even compare to some fodders seen in War Arc.

Mizukage being higher than Muu on the list is only because Mizukage beats Kisame, Tobirama and Minato, while Muu doesn't.

Gaara isn't on the list because he simply cannot beat any of the people in it. Minato and Tobirama win thanks to summons and defensive FTG. He maybe has his chances against Muu, but that's all.

 

[lanakui8]

This list made my eyes bleed. Starting from number 1.

because Bee = BM NAruto lol

 

[Minato namikaze123]

Bullshit,.!!!!

 

[grizzlyshree]

why minato is so down the list?

 

[Nattana]

why minato is so down the list?

Because he isn't strong enough to be higher.

 

[grizzlyshree]

Because he isn't strong enough to be higher.

but B and Ay accepted inferiority to miato so Minato would b above B right?

 

[Yocolaw]

Everyone in their strongest form. The only restriction are suicidal jutsu. No characters with 0 panel time or hype only.

@Edit.
Added forgotten Muu and thereby Jiraya is off the list.

1. Kaguya.
2. Hagoromo.
3. Madara.
4. Sasuke/Naruto.
5. Naruto/Sasuke.
6. Rikudobito Kakashi.
7. .7th gate Guy
8. Obito.
9. Kabuto.
10. Hashirama.
11. Nagato.
12. B.
13. 2nd Mizukage.
14. Kisame.
15. Minato.
16. Tobirama.
17. Muu.
18. Orochimaru
19. Danzo.
20. Itachi.
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Nice now that i Fixed it

 

[Beans2]

@Nattana, you don't think Gaara stands a chance against Itachi? I think Gaara beats Mu, the Mizukage, and FTG duo as well as Itachi, but that's just my opinion. True, Tobirama's suiton isn't that big.

 

[ad0]

1. 3 Eye JJMadara.
2. Kaguya.
3. 2 eye JJMadara
4. 3 eye jjHagoromo.
5. SM alive dual rennigan Madara
6. 1 eye JJMadara
7. Sasuke/Naruto.
8. Edo Madara
9. 8th gate Guy
10. SS Hashirama
11. Itachi.
12. Orichimaru
13. Kabuto

 

[Nattana]

@Nattana, you don't think Gaara stands a chance against Itachi? I think Gaara beats Mu, the Mizukage, and FTG duo as well as Itachi, but that's just my opinion. True, Tobirama's suiton isn't that big.

Gaara vs Itachi would actually be a pretty fun match-up. He has his chances.

But he isn't winning against Minato or Tobirama.

1. 3 Eye JJMadara.
2. Kaguya.
3. 2 eye JJMadara
4. 3 eye jjHagoromo.
5. SM alive dual rennigan Madara
6. 1 eye JJMadara
7. Sasuke/Naruto.
8. Edo Madara
9. 8th gate Guy
10. SS Hashirama
11. Itachi.
12. Orichimaru
13. Kabuto

You have probably noticed by now that my list doesn't include different versions of the same character.

And hell, there's no way Madara is above Kaguya.

 

[Conspirator.]

You restricted Indra,Ashura,Hamura and 8th gate Gai and BM minato basically? Then:

1. Kaguya
2. Hagaromo
3. Naruto
4. Sasuke
5. Madara
6. DMS Kakashi
7. Juubito
8. Oro w/Edos
9. Kabuto w/Edos
10. Hashirama
11. Nagato
12. Minato
13. Killer Bee
14. Tobirama
15. Itachi
16. Mu
17. 3rd Raikage
18. Trollkage
19. Gai
20. Kisame

My list is obviously better than yours. Lol

 

[Minator93]

Your list is a massive shitfest Lol

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All in their absolute Prime:

1. Kaguya
2. Hagoromo
3. Madara
4. Obito
5. Kakashi
6. Gai
7. Hamura
8. Naruto
9. Ashura/Indra
10. Indra/Ashura
11. Hiruzen
12. Minato
13. Hashirama
14. Sasuke
15. Tobirama
16. Nagato
17. Killer Bee
18. Itachi
19. Muu
20. Kabuto

 

[Nattana]

You restricted Indra,Ashura,Hamura and 8th gate Gai and BM minato basically? Then:

1. Kaguya
2. Hagaromo
3. Naruto
4. Sasuke
5. Madara
6. DMS Kakashi
7. Juubito
8. Oro w/Edos
9. Kabuto w/Edos
10. Hashirama
11. Nagato
12. Minato
13. Killer Bee
14. Tobirama
15. Itachi
16. Mu
17. 3rd Raikage
18. Trollkage
19. Kisame
20 4th Raikage

My list is obviously better than yours. Lol

I didn't restrict them - they simply have no panel time.
8th gate is a suicidal jutsu, meaning that if you have to resort to killing yourself to take someone else down - you're not superior to them.
BM Minato was Oro's Edo - there's no point in putting something on the list that was already included.

Your list is a massive shitfest Lol

---

All in their absolute Prime:

1. Kaguya
2. Hagoromo
3. Madara
4. Obito
5. Kakashi
6. Gai
7. Hamura
8. Naruto
9. Ashura/Indra
10. Indra/Ashura
11. Hiruzen
12. Minato
13. Hashirama
14. Sasuke
15. Tobirama
16. Nagato
17. Killer Bee
18. Itachi
19. Muu
20. Kabuto

Worst trash list I've ever seen in my life. Minato and Hiruzen above absolute prime Sasuke. Don't ridicule yourself any more.

 

[Beans2]

Your list is a massive shitfest Lol

---

All in their absolute Prime:

1. Kaguya
2. Hagoromo
3. Madara
4. Obito
5. Kakashi
6. Gai
7. Hamura
8. Naruto
9. Ashura/Indra
10. Indra/Ashura
11. Hiruzen
12. Minato
13. Hashirama
14. Sasuke
15. Tobirama
16. Nagato
17. Killer Bee
18. Itachi
19. Muu
20. Kabuto

I nearly went blind from reading that list.

 

[Minator93]

Worst trash list I've ever seen in my life. Minato and Hiruzen above absolute prime Sasuke. Don't ridicule yourself any more.

Lel there's even worse trash in the 1st post of this thread Lol

Prime Hiruzen was stronger than Prime SM Hashirama who has the power to put Sasuke in the ground since it has been made clear by the 4th Databook that Sasuke's Rinne-Swap tech has a range of 10 meters Lol

BM Minato is greater than SM Hashirama, auto above Sasuke. Esp since it's confirmed that his swap range is 10 meters Lol

I nearly went blind from reading that list.

Good good.

 

[ARGUS]

@Nattana, you don't think Gaara stands a chance against Itachi? I think Gaara beats Mu, the Mizukage, and FTG duo as well as Itachi, but that's just my opinion. True, Tobirama's suiton isn't that big.

No way in hell is gaara beating muu?
him being able to locate him means nothing at all when his entire defense is shat on by jinton,
he is not beating second mizukage either when he needed onokis help, as well as the mizukages help to take him out,
his oil and water renders his sand moot,

gaara can give itachi a good fight, however edo itachi would still mid diff him,
tobirama with edos would comfortably beat gaara with his GKF, and minato can also most likely take him down depending on how gamabuntas oil would suffice against his sand,