KCM Naruto & EMS Sasuke vs KCM Minato & Tobirama

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Conditions:

All of them are in the same state as the Juubito fight; although rested

Minato and Tobirama are Edo Tensei, but don't have regeneration

Intel:

Manga

Location:

Juubito showdown

Restrictions:

Bijuu Mode (For Naruto and Minato)

Restricted Kage Bunshin (Naruto, Minato, and Tobirama are all only allowed one)

Perfect Susano'O and Complete Susano'O​
 

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Team 2 wins. Tobirama flares up his chakra and Sasuke becomes so scared here his brain can't process to activate his Sharingan as he did in canon and Naruto gets spanked by his daddy.

Nah for real though, Tobirama or Minato teleport Sasuke out of Susano'o and he dies first then Naruto gets beaten up by the duo or Kurama gets extracted from him.
 

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Team 2 wins. Tobirama flares up his chakra and Sasuke becomes so scared here his brain can't process to activate his Sharingan as he did in canon and Naruto gets spanked by his daddy.

Nah for real though, Tobirama or Minato teleport Sasuke out of Susano'o and he dies first then Naruto gets beaten up by the duo or Kurama gets extracted from him.
stop with the nonsense please
 

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Minato and Tobirama win this

--No KB for naruto means that he is severely restricted. And with minato having superior speed and reactions along with FTG means that naruto gets marked at CQC rather easily, as once that happens he is done for

--FTG allows the duo to evade all of their attacks and narutos projectile FRS can just get redirected right back at him through the S/T barrier, which will simply backfire him even more

--Sasuke lacking complete susanoo and PS means that tobirmaa can bust all of his susanoo with GKF and mark him off. He can also evade his attacks And coordinate with minato here. To teleport him out of his susanoo with Goshun Mawashi. As once that happens, sasuke dies

--With the hokages sensing, KB and their speed means that genjutsu is also non factor
 
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--No KB for naruto means that he is severely restricted. And with minato having superior speed and reactions along with FTG mens that naruto gets marked as once that happens he is done for


I didn't restrict Sennin Mode, so Naruto can still merge them.​
 

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--No KB for naruto means that he is severely restricted. And with minato having superior speed and reactions along with FTG mens that naruto gets marked as once that happens he is done for--FTG allows the duo to evade all of their attacks and narutos projectile FRS can just get redirected right back at him through the S/T barrier, which will simply backfire him even more


Naruto still has boss summonings plus Sage mode. S.t barrier is so useless Minato having both his arms up trying to use it allows naruto to barrage him with chakra arms holding expanding frs.



Sasuke lacking complete susanoo and PS means that tobirmaa can bust all of his susanoo with GKF and mark him off. He can also evade his attacks And coordinate with minato here. To teleport him out of his susanoo with Goshun Mawashi. As once that happens, sasuke dies
With the hokages sensing, KB and their speed means that genjutsu is also non factor
Lacking a complete susanoo means nothing as tobirama cannot bypass a ribcage GKF is never landing on sasuke furthermore he susanoo simply jumps out before its gets to big to be a problem. Sasuke could also summon Aoda to aid him here or his hawk to set the hole battlefield a blaze then Kirin witch will take one of them out. They are never marking him enton over susanoo prevents all physical contact near by marking or kunai is roasted through Enton projectiles furthermore Sasuke could limit they're movements with his Enton aswell.

They only have one kage bushin thats not enough to factor in help for them not even close enton over the battlegrounds followed by Kirin would be to much for the duo futhermore you keep talking about them dodging everything no one they have to set the following marking witch will not be out of the radius of Gamabunta & Sasuke enton plus Oil combination.
 

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I didn't restrict Sennin Mode, so Naruto can still merge them.[/indent]
Still not helping him much when GKF will still kill him, and Minato can most certainly tag him through his KB to mark him, and then finish him off with BDR (Bijuudama rasengan) or COR

Naruto still has boss summonings plus Sage mode. S.t barrier is so useless Minato having both his arms up trying to use it allows naruto to barrage him with chakra arms holding expanding frs.
Nope, Boss summons are utmost fodder, here, they lack the speed here to evade the blast radius of GKF or Minato slams them with BDR or COR to finish them off,

and if naruto resorts to using FRS, then Minato can simply use S/T barrier to redireect it right back at him, thus either eradicating the summon or hitting naruto/sasuke,,

and narutos chakra arms being strong enough to tank FRS explosion is a joke,

Lacking a complete susanoo means nothing as tobirama cannot bypass a ribcage GKF is never landing on sasuke furthermore he susanoo simply jumps out before its gets to big to be a problem.
GKF landed against Juubito,
with the aid of KB as well as tobirama being Edo and having FTG to evade all of sasukes attacks means that GKF is landing and eradicating all of sasukes susanoo variants here

Sasuke could also summon Aoda to aid him here or his hawk to set the hole battlefield a blaze then Kirin witch will take one of them out. They are never marking him enton over susanoo prevents all physical contact near by marking or kunai is roasted through Enton projectiles furthermore Sasuke could limit they're movements with his Enton aswell.
Kirin is just hitting naruto even more,
and aoda is non factor when it gets eradicated by GKF or a BDR
hitting the kunais with amaterasu is still not helping when the duo would merge with their markings and spread them as the battle prolongs, the further sasuke is from them, the greater their use of FTG gets,

They only have one kage bushin thats not enough to factor in help for them not even close enton over the battlegrounds followed by Kirin would be to much for the duo futhermore you keep talking about them dodging everything no one they have to set the following marking witch will not be out of the radius of Gamabunta & Sasuke enton plus Oil combination.
One KB is all that minato or tobirama need,
GKF busts all of Sasukes susanoo, and so does BDR, sasuke is not doing shit here with just V3 susanoo and its enton arrrows
kirin just backfires naruto even more, and entons are evaded by both of them on FOOT,

oil and fire combo is just shielded by minatos chakra arms who also protect tobirama here, its non factor here,
 

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Still not helping him much when GKF will still kill him, and Minato can most certainly tag him through his KB to mark him, and then finish him off with BDR (Bijuudama rasengan) or COR
GKF is a joke especially with full intel Minato isnt tagging anything chakra amrs could protect him from being tagged easily and since when can Minato use a Bijuudama Rasengan?

Nope, Boss summons are utmost fodder, here, they lack the speed here to evade the blast radius of GKF or Minato slams them with BDR or COR to finish them off,
You keep talking about GKF like its isnt a double edge sword if tobirama is close he gets killed aswell same with Minato furthermore Gamabunta easily jumps out of its range with no problem. Speed isnt needed for them when Naruto has chakra arms to attack long distances. Minato doesnt have this fanfic ability you speak off Naruto adding KM on top of his SM means his firepower > Minato so whatever COR is its overpowered easily.

and if naruto resorts to using FRS, then Minato can simply use S/T barrier to redireect it right back at him, thus either eradicating the summon or hitting naruto/sasuke,,
and narutos chakra arms being strong enough to tank FRS explosion is a joke,
Space time barrier doesnt spit things back out and will need the attack to come out somewhere he has a marked kunai witch naruto wont be standing by one so this s/t barrier bs needs to stop. Never said his chakra arms would tank anything i said when Minato is warping one of those hands he uses guided FRS through chakra arms to attack while both his hands are up using st barrier.


GKF landed against Juubito,
with the aid of KB as well as tobirama being Edo and having FTG to evade all of sasukes attacks means that GKF is landing and eradicating all of sasukes susanoo variants here
Using Juubito is funny since it was at the cost of half of Tobirama's body also why would the latter attack with a shunsin that would allow they're bodies to get tagged furthermore Juubito was mindless nor did he bother dodging hashirama's bushin wood restraints witch is the only reason he had got the jutsu off anyways. If he has nothing to restrain you with you can easily jump out of the explosion when its not strong enough to destroy susanoo.


Kirin is just hitting naruto even more,
and aoda is non factor when it gets eradicated by GKF or a BDR
hitting the kunais with amaterasu is still not helping when the duo would merge with their markings and spread them as the battle prolongs, the further sasuke is from them, the greater their use of FTG gets,
Not if they're both on his hawk safe in the sky Naruto isnt getting hit at all. Aoda is for hiding purposes when kirin is used he not an offensive fighter in this matchup. Furthermore edo tensei is a prep jutsu no prep was giving Tobirama has no dead bodies to sacrafice so GKF isnt happening here anyways BDR does not excist with this or any form of minato for that matter. Sharing maeking means nothing Amaterasu roast the kunai witch are limited and the marking periode not getting how the ftg use gets any better with distance but okei.


One KB is all that minato or tobirama need,
GKF busts all of Sasukes susanoo, and so does BDR, sasuke is not doing shit here with just V3 susanoo and its enton arrrows
kirin just backfires naruto even more, and entons are evaded by both of them on FOOT,

oil and fire combo is just shielded by minatos chakra arms who also protect tobirama here, its non factor here, [/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR]
One KB that goes poof with a single touch please. Already shitted and explained why this GKF talk is useless and BDR isnt apart of Minato's arsenal going to need a scan of it first Sasuke does alot with that he actually solos regarless of what susanoo it is as long as its standing. how would kirin backfire please explain also you never even gave a solid counter for it you just danced around it. Enton is for protection and used for eliminating ftg marking.

Minato's Chakra arms get burnt clean through especially since Sasuke could focus amaterasu making it hotter or stick his hand in the stream of enton oil combo to make enton spikes bisecting them.
 

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Kifflom with the overration of ftg strikes again... Naruto and Sasuke take this low-med difficulty... Once His Bijuu size Susanoo come up Enton covers it to render Ftg useless... Manda and Naruto boss summonings comes out... There combinations are far to much for Minato and Tobirama the one trick pony's... Kirin wrecks them as well... Sasuke could also cast Amaterasu on Gamabunta oil for a giant Enton...
 

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GKF is a joke especially with full intel Minato isnt tagging anything chakra amrs could protect him from being tagged easily and since when can Minato use a Bijuudama Rasengan?
GKF is not a joke when it has shown the firepower comparable to (if not higher) then even Hirudora which busted V3 susanoo
none of sasukes susanoos here or KCM narutos durability would suffice against it,

Minato has superior speed and reflexes to KCM naruto, added to the fact that he can use FTG means that he can tag him much easier than naruto would, and therefore mark him,

and minato can use BDR since he knows the rasengan and the ratio to form the TBB,

You keep talking about GKF like its isnt a double edge sword if tobirama is close he gets killed aswell
same with Minato furthermore Gamabunta easily jumps out of its range with no problem.
Lol, no, Tobirama is an edo in this thread, he wont be affected by it all when the technique is designed for edos,
neither would KCM minato who is also an edo, so try again,

not that it matters since minato can use FTG to jump out of its AOE, when tobirama can tell him prior to using it,

Speed isnt needed for them when Naruto has chakra arms to attack long distances. Minato doesnt have this fanfic ability you speak off Naruto adding KM on top of his SM means his firepower > Minato so whatever COR is its overpowered easily.
Its not fanfic, when Minato can use Rasengan and TBB, and he knows the ratio to be able to use it,
COR - Chou Odama Rasengan
once minato marks him which is done rather easily through a single CQC encounter,
naruto would stand no chance, and tobirama can mark him as well, seeing how he is an edo and managed to even mark juubito,
naruto would be no problem for either of the two, espeically when he llacks clones here

Space time barrier doesnt spit things back out and will need the attack to come out somewhere he has a marked kunai witch naruto wont be standing by one so this s/t barrier bs needs to stop. Never said his chakra arms would tank anything i said when Minato is warping one of those hands he uses guided FRS through chakra arms to attack while both his hands are up using st barrier.
actually an FRS is a projectile just how a TBB is, there is no wank BS here when S/T barrier can teleport it just fine
it gets taken away and minato can send it towards a marking near naruto which would just kill him,
and with the hokages being edos means that they would be unfazed due to being further away from its blast radius, being edos and having FTG to evade at a safer location


Using Juubito is funny since it was at the cost of half of Tobirama's body also why would the latter attack with a shunsin that would allow they're bodies to get tagged
Lol naruto has no other way to attack apart from shunshin and FRS, Rasengans
even if naruto doesnt attempt to attack, minato certainly will, and through his faster shunshin, reflexes and FTG, marking naruto would be a piece of cake,

furthermore Juubito was mindless nor did he bother dodging hashirama's bushin wood restraints witch is the only reason he had got the jutsu off anyways. If he has nothing to restrain you with you can easily jump out of the explosion when its not strong enough to destroy susanoo.
Mindless of not, juubito poops on KCM naruto in every shape or form and every categoy,
if tobirama managed to tag juubito 5 times, then tagging naruto would be no problem at all,
and with tobirama being edo, means that he has nothing to worry about,
naruto gets marked and then gets raped,

and no, TObirama doesnt have to restrain his target here, he can literally continue to throw his tags towards susanoo until gets busted, no complete susanoo or PS means that sasukes susanoo is fodder here, infront of GKF or BDR

Not if they're both on his hawk safe in the sky Naruto isnt getting hit at all. Aoda is for hiding purposes when kirin is used he not an offensive fighter in this matchup. Furthermore edo tensei is a prep jutsu no prep was giving Tobirama has no dead bodies to sacrafice so GKF isnt happening here anyways BDR does not excist with this or any form of minato for that matter. Sharing maeking means nothing Amaterasu roast the kunai witch are limited and the marking periode not getting how the ftg use gets any better with distance but okei.
Too bad that the hokages can continue to place their markings if sasuke resorts to using the hawk,
too bad that tobirama is edo here meaning that he hass the luxury to use GKF
too bad that tobirama can still use GKF is sasuke attempts to use the hawk,
too bad that minato can still summon one of the toads to close the distance, and use Food Cart Destroyer to crush him

One KB that goes poof with a single touch please. Already shitted and explained why this GKF talk is useless and BDR isnt apart of Minato's arsenal going to need a scan of it first Sasuke does alot with that he actually solos regarless of what susanoo it is as long as its standing. how would kirin backfire please explain also you never even gave a solid counter for it you just danced around it. Enton is for protection and used for eliminating ftg marking.
Lol no he doesnt solo shit,
either of the hokage woould school him herre,

BDR is a part of Minatos arsenal not that it matters since GKF would still bust Susanoo, meaning that its not useless

and Lol kirin would just affect sasuke more since itlll get naruto killed,
sasuke isnt prepping the jutsu either, nor is prolonging the battle good enough when the hokages would place markings at a large enough distnace to evade it with FTG
Minato's Chakra arms get burnt clean through especially since Sasuke could focus amaterasu making it hotter or stick his hand in the stream of enton oil combo to make enton spikes bisecting them.
Lol no they dont,
Chakra can be extracted away, minatoo protects them both and then gets rid of the flames just how naruto did albeit with much less effort,
 
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Kifflom with the overration of ftg strikes again...
Lol No, there is no overration at alll, just logic mate
Any tard with a brain should know that FTG is faster than shunshin, and any tard shoould be able to tell that with KCM Minatos reflexes and speed being above naruto means that he gets marked and then raped

Naruto and Sasuke take this low-med difficulty... Once His Bijuu size Susanoo come up Enton covers it to render Ftg useless...
Lol no it doesnt do shit,
Bijuu sized susanoo isnt even happening without the shroud, he gets the same V3 that he had prior to the shroud
therefore it gets busted by GKF

Manda and Naruto boss summonings comes out... There combinations are far to much for Minato and Tobirama the one trick pony's... Kirin wrecks them as well... Sasuke could also cast Amaterasu on Gamabunta oil for a giant Enton...
Minato can match narutos summonings with his own, they both have the contract,
they both can also wreck the summons with BDR or GKF

and the enton oil combo is non factor when minato can prevent both of them through his chakra arms and then shit on the flames just how base naruto did in canon
 
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Lol No, there is no overration at alll, just logic mate
Any tard with a brain should know that FTG is faster than shunshin, and any tard shoould be able to tell that with KCM Minatos reflexes and speed being above naruto means that he gets marked and then raped


Lol no it doesnt do shit,
Bijuu sized susanoo isnt even happening without the shroud, he gets the same V3 that he had prior to the shroud
therefore it gets busted by GKF


Minato can match narutos summonings with his own, they both have the contract,
they both can also wreck the summons with BDR or GKF

and the enton oil combo is non factor when minato can prevent both of them through his chakra arms and then shit on the flames just how base naruto did in canon
Who said it wasn't? Actually no not when Naruto can fuse KM with SM seeing as that isn't restricted... Sasuke sill has a standing Susanoo regardless... GKF does Tobirama even have fodder edo's also they get can get immobilized once they get close via Enton... GKF is easily avoidable plus They still have no counter for Kirin at all...

Minato is going to prevent this with chakra arms.( ). Lel stop... Plus they can take flight via hawk... Manda and Aoda are use-able Naruto could also summon Ma and Pa etc... The combinations are endless...
 
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