[Discussion] Zoro vs vergo vs jinbei vs smoker

[kyubbi sagemode]

Yeah I am serious. Portal puts Zoro and Sanji next to each other in terms of strength with Zoro being ahead by Sanji by a bit. You say Sanji has been getting destroyed while Zoro hasn't fought nobody note worthy up until recently you dumbass. Zoro would lose to everyone Sanji has. And no Oda has Sanji fight DD because Sanji is the only SH who would travel out of Dressorsa without a boat and do it quickly, if Zoro fought DD he would of got wrecked just as bad DD is beating both Luffy and Law at the same time what makes you think Zoro is even scratching DD.

Dickhead, Fuji praised DD while DD praised Sanji and Fuji didn't have to intent to kill will DD did, again if Zoro fought DD h would get the Sanji treatment.


If you weren't such a blind fanboy you would see I never said Zoro was weaker just portrayal puts them on the same level.

LOL why you calling me a dumbass for telling the truth. you won't say that to my face I'll knock you the **** out. And
your the dumbass, fuji praised zoros flying slash.. when was I talking about him praising DD. dumb****.. Literally all I stated was facts.. Luffy>zoro>sanji deal with it... But I'm not trying to turn this into a sanji vs zoro debate. It's clear DD would beat zoro but not as bad as sanji. And zoro and vergo could go either way.

LMFAO you calling me a fanboy for having different opinions FOH

 

[I'm stupid real stupid]

How does Smoker kill Zoro anyway? By punching him to death?

 

[Punk Hazard]

How does Smoker kill Zoro anyway? By punching him to death?

You say it like "punching to death" isn't the way Luffy, Garp, Akainu, and Whitebeard handle(d) things.

 

[Bogard]

Not necessarily. If you are like Luffy and Zoro who operate through direct, brute damage, then you need to be able to bypass his Haki. For Luffy, he needs to be able to smash through it, and Zoro needs to be able to cut through it. If you lack the means of bypassing Vergo's Haki, and you deal with directly dealing brute damage, then your chances of defeating him are lower than someone who deals direct brute damage and can. This is not a hard, nor unreasonable, concept, I suggest you stop treating it as such.

And it's for that reason i'm asking you why you believe with the fire power Luffy/Zoro displayed they can't burst through Vergo's haki. It's not like his haki has valuable feats to suggest they can't

 

[Cigbeast]

Zoro/Jinbe unless its anywhere near water cause Jinbe would when mid-highdiff

 

[Punk Hazard]

And it's for that reason i'm asking you why you believe with the fire power Luffy/Zoro displayed they can't burst through Vergo's haki. It's not like his haki has valuable feats to suggest they can't

And nothing indicates that they can. At the end of the day, we still can't say Luffy and Zoro can bypass his Haki.

 

[I'm stupid real stupid]

You say it like "punching to death" isn't the way Luffy, Garp, Akainu, and Whitebeard handle(d) things.

So you're saying Zoro cant tank Smokers punches?
Also you know how Smoker moves and his lower body turns to Smoke? What if Zoro uses 1080 canon to cut that layer of Smoke...by doing that wont he cut or really damage Smoker's body?

And Garp is a power house so its a different case and WB infuses it with GGnM and Luffy's punches are more powerful than Smokers

 

[Bogard]

And nothing indicates that they can. At the end of the day, we still can't say Luffy and Zoro can bypass his Haki.

Vergo possess a close to featless haki durability feat. Obviously in this case it's not hard to take one side

 

[Cigbeast]

but still bro

 

[Punk Hazard]

So you're saying Zoro cant tank Smokers punches?
Also you know how Smoker moves and his lower body turns to Smoke? What if Zoro uses 1080 canon to cut that layer of Smoke...by doing that wont he cut or really damage Smoker's body?

And Garp is a power house so its a different case and WB infuses it with GGnM and Luffy's punches are more powerful than Smokers

Tank them? Nope. Vergo's normal blows critically injured Sanji's leg, whose body is stronger than Zoro's. Smoker was able to match and injure Vergo while he was using Haki, though he was defeated. The point remains, Smoker was able to damage something that was capable of damaging something stronger than Zoro's body. Therefore, Smoker's hits can damage Zoro.

If Smoker catches Zoro in that same chokeslam and drives his Jitte into Zoro's face, Zoro is dead.

 

[Bogard]

And Zoro lacks the feats to cut through Vergo's Haki.

Considering both are featless because they never faced, it's not hard to take one side, so it's up to interpretation/perception here and considering Zoro is physically more powerful than Law who was taking hits from him i do believe it involves his attack strength as more powerful as well, not to mention his higher end attacks.

 

[-Akuma-]

LOL why you calling me a dumbass for telling the truth. you won't say that to my face I'll knock you the **** out. And
your the dumbass, fuji praised zoros flying slash.. when was I talking about him praising DD. dumb****.. Literally all I stated was facts.. Luffy>zoro>sanji deal with it... But I'm not trying to turn this into a sanji vs zoro debate. It's clear DD would beat zoro but not as bad as sanji. And zoro and vergo could go either way.

LMFAO you calling me a fanboy for having different opinions FOH

I'm pretty sure I would call a weak ass ***** like you a dickhead in real life, stop tryna act tuff. I used Sanji as an example, Fuji praised Zoro while DD praised Sanji both of their opponents are much stronger than them yet they received praise. It's not clear that Zoro would do better than Sanji because DD is beating Luffy and Law at the same tie, DD would beat Zoro just as easy. Vergo slaps the shit out of Zoro.


I'm calling you a fanboy because you're acting like one, I never tried to deny that Zoro was stronger than Sanji I said portrayal puts them on the same level something you were tryna to deny.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Considering both are featless because they never faced, it's not hard to take one side, so it's up to interpretation/perception here and considering Zoro is physically more powerful than Law who was taking hits from him i do believe it involves his attack strength as more powerful as well, not to mention his higher end attacks.

That still doesn't change that you can't say Zoro can cut through Vergo's Haki.

 

[Bogard]

That still doesn't change that you can't say Zoro can cut through Vergo's Haki.

Indeed and it's for that reason i'm using portrayal rather than feats and according to my perception of the manga portrayal, Zoro's is currently one step ahead

 

[kyubbi sagemode]

I'm pretty sure I would call a weak ass ***** like you a dickhead in real life, stop tryna act tuff. I used Sanji as an example, Fuji praised Zoro while DD praised Sanji both of their opponents are much stronger than them yet they received praise. It's not clear that Zoro would do better than Sanji because DD is beating Luffy and Law at the same tie, DD would beat Zoro just as easy. Vergo slaps the shit out of Zoro.


I'm calling you a fanboy because you're acting like one, I never tried to deny that Zoro was stronger than Sanji I said portrayal puts them on the same level something you were tryna to deny.

LMFAO I can beat the shit out of you if I wanted but SHIT like this is no reason to get mad over.. Also wouldnt you say zero performed better against Fuji than sanji did against doffy? I mean law saved sanji and zoro escaped by himself... And vergo doesn't even come close to shitting on zoro. Either wins high/extreme diff. Some would even argue to say pica>vergo.

 

[A v i]

Oh yeah cuz by current power scale, rocks are so intense. Rocks are comparable to Armament Haki. Makes sense.

Don chinjaos head butt with back up managed to destroy single hand of Picas statue where as Zoro did more damage than their combined attack with single hit which would automatically put his physical strength far above Don Chinjaos COA which has better feats as well as hype than Vergo's haki.

Zoro's techs will always be constantly overrated and shoved up the asses of his fanboys.

It is the other way around.hmm

No one really underrates Zoro or hates him. Just because we disagree with you,

Very nice.hmm

doesn't mean we hate him. You guys seem to hate on Smoker a lot though, that's something undeniable. I have no idea why you guys hate Smoker.

Just because we think Smoker is weaker than Zoro doesn't mean that we hate him. Apart from saying that he's currently weaker than Zoro which is supported by manga,I don't remember Zoro fans downplaying Smoker in any other smoker related threads where as I have been observing same faces desperately trying to downplay Zoro as much as possible in each and every Zoro related thread.hmm

 

[-Akuma-]

LMFAO I can beat the shit out of you if I wanted but SHIT like this is no reason to get mad over.. Also wouldnt you say zero performed better against Fuji than sanji did against doffy? I mean law saved sanji and zoro escaped by himself... And vergo doesn't even come close to shitting on zoro. Either wins high/extreme diff. Some would even argue to say pica>vergo.

A little keyboard warrior ain't beating the shit out of anybody lol. No Zoro din't perform better against Fuji, and look at Fuji's intent in his fight compared to DD Fuji didn't even want to kill Zoro either. Law saved Sanji, but Zoro din't escape Fujitora left. Vergo shits on Zoro he can't break his haki, some argue Pica>Vergo> Lol that doesn't mean they're right.

 

[kyubbi sagemode]

A little keyboard warrior ain't beating the shit out of anybody lol. No Zoro din't perform better against Fuji, and look at Fuji's intent in his fight compared to DD Fuji didn't even want to kill Zoro either. Law saved Sanji, but Zoro din't escape Fujitora left. Vergo shits on Zoro he can't break his haki, some argue Pica>Vergo> Lol that doesn't mean they're right.

Wtf does keyboard warrior mean? LMFAO ****ing geek and zoro escaped fujitoras Gravity.

 

[Red Swag]

zoro>vergo>jimbei>smoke

 

[Dannie]

1. Vergo wins.

2. Vergo>>Zoro>Jinbei>Smoker