[Discussion] Zoro vs vergo vs jinbei vs smoker

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Strongest to weakest

Zoro> Vergo/Jimbe > Jimbe/Vergo > Smoker.

The one who picks the battle with Smoker at first wins this match.
 

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In an all-out brawl, Vergo wins. He can already defeat Smoker mid-diff. Jinbei doesn't really have any feats that put him above Vergo either, and Zoro has no feats to suggest he can cut Vergo's Haki.

Ranking:

1. Vergo
2. Jinbei
3. Zoro
4. Smoker
Your right he hasn't shown feats to cut vergos haki but that's cause he never needed to. Zoro hasn't ever fought close to 100% since the time skip. but by power scaling you would assume he would be able to. I mean sanji and Vergo both weren't going all out and he was also injured from being in namis body. I know Vergo Did not put his full body in haki but sanji wasn't really using his strongest moves either.

Now we can all agree by feats and portrayal zoro beats sanji high diff. I don't even think he would need Asura. We all know zoro can cut iron ever since alabasta so his only problem would be haki. But zoro can use haki too and even in his slashes which was shown against Monet. Imagine zoro using asura pound canon with haki in it against vergo I believe that would cut him. So By portrayal it definitely seems zoro can cut vergo but we'll have to wait and see until he goes all out in the timeskip.
 

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Scenario 1: Not sure at all but I would hazard a guess at Jinbei. [I rank Jinbei high because of the way his fishman karate works. I don't think vergo's haki would stand a chance.]
Scenario 2:
  1. Jinbei
  2. Zoro (not sure about this)
  3. Vergo
  4. Smoker
 
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Scenario 1: Not sure at all but I would hazard a guess at Jinbei. [I rank Jinbei high because of the way his fishman karate works. I don't think vergo's haki would stand a chance.]
Scenario 2:
  1. Jinbei
  2. Zoro (not sure about this)
  3. Vergo
  4. Smoker
I think this is the most logical order. I saw people saying Vergo > Jinbei though. How'd you figure. Fishman Karate.
 

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Yea yea Zoro's body was always injured pre-TS and he always performed better.

Smoker>Sanji
Are you retarded Zoro never fought anyone strong when he was injured unlike Sanji. You Zoro fanboys say the dumbest shit.

OT:

Jimbei wins the 1st scenario

As for scenario 2:

1. Jimbei

2. Vergo

3. Smoker

4. Zoro
 

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I should ask you the same. Until Zoro has a feat that shows he can cut Vergo's Haki, he isn't doing so.
Considering Zoro has equal if not more fire power than Luffy, are you suggesting, Luffy can't beat through Vergo's haki as well? Luffy has no feats that shows he can beat through Vergo's haki, so he isn't doing so by your logic. You know the reason why he has no feats? It's because they never faced
 

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Considering Zoro has equal if not more fire power than Luffy, are you suggesting, Luffy can't beat through Vergo's haki as well? Luffy has no feats that shows he can beat through Vergo's haki, so he isn't doing so by your logic. You know the reason why he has no feats? It's because they never faced
Technically, yes. Luffy has no feats right now that suggest can beat Vergo either, so no, Luffy isn't beating Vergo either, though I'm certain this will change after Doffy's defeat.

Zoro only has more endurance than Luffy.

Zoro, nor Luffy, need to actually face Vergo to establish feats that they can defeat him though, so that part of your post is utterly useless.
 

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S1. Vergo
S2.

1. Vergo
2. Smoker/Jinbei
3. Smoker/Jinbei
4. Zoro
I agree with this...

Are you retarded Zoro never fought anyone strong when he was injured unlike Sanji. You Zoro fanboys say the dumbest shit.

OT:

Jimbei wins the 1st scenario

As for scenario 2:

1. Jimbei

2. Vergo

3. Smoker

4. Zoro
And potentially this...
 

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Technically, yes. Luffy has no feats right now that suggest can beat Vergo either, so no, Luffy isn't beating Vergo either, though I'm certain this will change after Doffy's defeat.
And what would make that change?

Zoro only has more endurance than Luffy.
No he actually can have more fire power as well. Bazooka has always been a finishing move of his and Zoro's 1080 pound phoenix surpass his finishing move in power

Zoro, nor Luffy, need to actually face Vergo to establish feats that they can defeat him though, so that part of your post is utterly useless.
Oh and what do they need to do then?
 

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Obviously you would agree cuz Zoro is at the bottom in both list Lol.... never thought I would see that one coming Lol.
And you saying Zoro would be on top isn't surprising either. Like riker said, Zoro hasn't showed any feats. of cutting Vergo's haki.
 

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Lol his portrayal puts him close to Sanji who loses to Vergo lol.
Are you serious? By portrayal he is clearly ahead of sanji... Sanji has been getting destroyed by med-high tiers while no one could touch zoro in post ts so far. Also sanji went all out against doflamingo and got completely raped.. Why do you think oda didn't Have zoro there to fight doflamingo? I mean zoro would of clearly lost but not nearly as bad as sanji.

You could also see this again when fujitora intercepted zoro. If zoro would of ended up having to fight doflamingo there and if he went all out he would lose for sure but he would definently not lose bad as sanji. I mean he escaped Fujis gravity and sent a flying slash which fuji praised... by portrayal zoro is stronger than sanji. It's always been luffy>zoro>sanji.
 

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And you saying Zoro would be on top isn't surprising either. Like riker said, Zoro hasn't showed any feats. of cutting Vergo's haki.
1080p cannon is more than enough to cut Vergo Imo and its obvious it isnt Zoro's strongest technique either Vergo has shown his moves which is impressive yes. but I cant wait for Zoro to show something more impressive than vergo. which he will. then you guys can stop taking the piss. U_U and putting Zoro below Smoker is disrespect Lol XD.
 
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