Battle Arena Rules Discussion

[Sharpism]

As I said I agree, but it'd be impossible to change at this point, or atleast if it was changed it'd piss off a lot of players. Personally I think it'd bring a large game of strategy to the RP system but then people wouldn't accept a fight if their opponent had the "better" elements. Its a yes and a no. Yes from a personal strategist aspect, no from a gameplay aspect, as I know it'd affect a lot of gameplay to the point where people wouldn't play against people with elements.

 

[Typhon]

As I said I agree, but it'd be impossible to change at this point, or atleast if it was changed it'd piss off a lot of players. Personally I think it'd bring a large game of strategy to the RP system but then people wouldn't accept a fight if their opponent had the "better" elements. Its a yes and a no. Yes from a personal strategist aspect, no from a gameplay aspect, as I know it'd affect a lot of gameplay to the point where people wouldn't play against people with elements.

Ya I definitely see what you're saying. At this point the current system is so ingrained that changing it would definitely piss a lot of people off. Theres 50 pages of custom jutsu that would have to be re-checked as well as a plethora of custom summons, weapons, elements, etc. It would be chaos. xd

 

[Sharpism]

Indeed. However I actually have a question. As I've seen some users do this in the past. They'll use multiple weapons per post/fight. Kunai/Flashbangs/Smokebombs/swords/exploding tags ect. Why don't these things take turns. I mean you would still have to dodge them and you generally have to use a jutsu to do so for these things. As it states in the rules you HAVE to specify how you block something and you HAVE to block something you cannot just say you dodge it. [This makes sence but weapons/items are a counter to this rule.]

 

[Magellan]

i would agree on this, however, i doubt that the RPers here will agree on this.

 

[Typhon]

Indeed. However I actually have a question. As I've seen some users do this in the past. They'll use multiple weapons per post/fight. Kunai/Flashbangs/Smokebombs/swords/exploding tags ect. Why don't these things take turns. I mean you would still have to dodge them and you generally have to use a jutsu to do so for these things. As it states in the rules you HAVE to specify how you block something and you HAVE to block something you cannot just say you dodge it. [This makes sence but weapons/items are a counter to this rule.]

I agree, but then we would never see weapons used. Why throw a shuriken when in the same amount of time you can send a giant fireball at them?

 

[Sharpism]

I agree, but then we would never see weapons used. Why throw a shuriken when in the same amount of time you can send a giant fireball at them?

Items like that are generally throws with little to no worry anyways. They're not supposed to kill they're supposed to wound AT BEST. Dogs and Puppets are tools yet they take a turn to use? Correct? [Haven't actually seen a Puppet/Dog so I wouldn't know.]

I think if you use One or More weapons it should count for a turn, Generally speaking someone can't get out of a flashbomb and counter 3 jutsu and 5 exploding tags and then the user conseals themself with a smoke bomb. I mean thank god no ones a big enough douche to use a flashbomb for every jutsu they do. "I use a flash bomb then I use a great fire ball jutsu. I then use another Flashbomb and use another great fire ball jutsu mixed with a wind jutsu to make it super strong, I then flash you again after this jutsu hits." xD;

 

[Typhon]

We'll see what happens. .-.
Firstly, my bodies seperate, leaving about 3 cm between Eda and Tou. Then Tou uses

(Genjutsu: Seishin Kujiki) Illusion Technique: Mind Crush
Rank: S
Type: Attack
Range: Short - Long
Chakra Cost: 40
Damage Points: 50
Description: The user whips his arm towards the target and outstreches his hand and once the foe witnesses this, they are put under an illusion that seemingly has their mind shatter, wiped out and leaves them staggered for the current turn but due to the strain of this move, the user is unable to perform jutsu for the present round (does not count for clones or “additional bodies”). The opponent is damaged quite a bit by this jutsu because of the mental strain that is put upon them.
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which stuns you by creating a great mental strain. Note you, this effect happens in a second or so. At the same moment, Eda uses

Fuuton: Atsugai (Wind Style: Pressure Damage)
Type:Attack
Rank: A
Range:Short-Mid
Chakra Cost:30
Damage Points:60
Description: A Huge blast of wind that levels anything in its path; Can cause major damage and requires a sufficient chakra level to perform. This large wind blast
moves in tremendous speed and cannot be controlled. If the user gets caught in it, it will harm him also.

and combines it with

(Katon: Goenkyu) - Fire Style: Blaze Ball
Rank: B
Type: Offense
Range: Short/Long
Chakra Cost: 20
Damage Points: 40
Description: The user exhales a meteor-sized sphere of fire that carries the enemy away and causes a massive explosion on impact.

I have a question about this move.

How do the two jutsu become combined? The wind technique states that the blast moves at "tremendous speed". So by the time the user uses this technique, then does the hand signs for the fire jutsu and releases it, the wind technique should have already reached opponent therefore making the two techniques hit the opponent separately rather than combined.

He has two bodies so he could combine them that way, but he states that the wind tech is used at the same time as the genjutsu. So whether its the same body using both tech, or one using fire and one using wind is irrelevant, because the fire still occurs after the wind.

Am I wrong in this reasoning, or am I missing something?

(I'm trying to get into the Battle RP so I'm just trying to get a grasp on how exactly timing and other things work).

 

[Sin]

Since the genjutsu happens in a second and body uses wind at same moment other body can right away use the fire since nothing eles..

Or so I think that how it goes.

 

[Chiryoku]

Sin, you misunderstood the weak point of the genjutsu. ._.
Meh, you are partially right. But, I've played a game with the "Blaze Ball" in it, and it didn't require handseals and travelled at a great speed, thus in my idea this combo is able to happen.

 

[Typhon]

Since the genjutsu happens in a second and body uses wind at same moment other body can right away use the fire since nothing eles..

Or so I think that how it goes.

Well I just re-read the genjutsu and it says it leaves the user unable to perform jutsu for the rest of the turn, so it has to be the other one using both techs, which I think is impossible time-wise to combine them. Unless you're saying that since the fire tech doesn't require hand signs that you're combining the wind and fire technique within the body then releasing them at the same time.

 

[Chiryoku]

Well I just re-read the genjutsu and it says it leaves the user unable to perform jutsu for the rest of the turn, so it has to be the other one using both techs, which I think is impossible time-wise to combine them. Unless you're saying that since the fire tech doesn't require hand signs that you're combining the wind and fire technique within the body then releasing them at the same time.

This is indeed true.
But as I stated in the above post the Blaze Ball does not require handseals and is quite fast, therefore it could combine with the wind jutsu in my view.

 

[Typhon]

This is indeed true.
But as I stated in the above post the Blaze Ball does not require handseals and is quite fast, therefore it could combine with the wind jutsu in my view.

I guess I would need to see the jutsu in action to see what you're saying. I was just basing it off of the descriptions in which the wind tech's speed is described as "tremendous" while the fire tech doesn't have its speed described. This led me to the assumption that if the wind tech needed to have its speed described it would be much faster than normal jutsu, while the fire one had nothing special about its speed so it would be slower than the wind.

Maybe if the two techniques had their order switched it would work better in my mind.

 

[Chiryoku]

I guess I would need to see the jutsu in action to see what you're saying. I was just basing it off of the descriptions in which the wind tech's speed is described as "tremendous" while the fire tech doesn't have its speed described. This led me to the assumption that if the wind tech needed to have its speed described it would be much faster than normal jutsu, while the fire one had nothing special about its speed so it would be slower than the wind.

Maybe if the two techniques had their order switched it would work better in my mind.

I get your point here, and I partially agree with you.
Though in my mind this is switched because of the game and the speed of the blaze ball there.

 

[Typhon]

I have seen some uncertainty on here about the hidden mist jutsu and whether the user can or cannot see in it. I was just re-reading the Zabuza/Kakashi fight and the answer was pretty clear. The user cannot see through the mist. In face Zabuza keeps his eyes closed during the fight to avoid being put in a genjutsu. Zabuza states that he is able to follow Kakashi's movements by listening to his sound. So unless your bio is Zabuza or has a sensing ability you cannot see through the mist.

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Hope that clarifies things for future reference.

 

[Typhon]

(Doujutsu: Susanoo) - Eye Technique: God Of The Storm

Rank:S
Type:Supplementary/Attack/Defence
Range:Short-Long
Chakra Cost:40(-15 per turn)
Damage Points:80(-20 to user per turn)
Description:This doujutsu creates a spirit that is equipped with the Sword Of Totsuka which seals anything it cuts in a dream -like genjutsu for eternity.Its also is equipped with Yata`s Mirror another supernatural item that can repel all attacks.The real power of Susanoo is to suck anything into another dimension by sucking it into its gourd.If hit but the sword your opponent is unable to move for three turns.

making susanoo instantly come up and as soon as its up it startz sucking everything into another dimension. Sucking it into the gourd and sucking you and ur partner up as well. Stopping the wind dragon by sucking it up stopping the first justsu by sucking all dust up and sucking youll up stopping the hammer from being released.*

Why is Madara's Susanoo equipped with the Sword of Totsuka and Yata mirror?

 

[Caliburn]

Why is Madara's Susanoo equipped with the Sword of Totsuka and Yata mirror?

Probably because on the moment that jutsu was created we only saw on Susanoo and that was Itachi's. Now we know that apparantly every Susanoo is different depending on the person.

 

[Kiwii]

Wind travels faster then fire. If you intend to combinate the 2 using only one body, you need to preform the fire first and then have the wind coliding with it.

It's not what I think, it's logic. If someone ever does the other way around in a fight with me, I'll block the wind and fire seperated

 

[Lord of Kaos.]

a question about seven swordsman thing do you get a sword owners sword if u beat them in any battle including special turnements and in group fights??

 

[Caliburn]

a question about seven swordsman thing do you get a sword owners sword if u beat them in any battle including special turnements and in group fights??

also I couldnt find a description of jiraiyas barriar dome jutsu the one he used against pain to know the location of pains charmeleon those any one know it?

I clearly specified in the thread the rules for a battle. If the groupfights are following those rules, then yes. The one who beats/kills an owner can get his sword.

With tournaments it depends on the tournament itself. If the rules of the tournament say for example no customs, than no. I can only say it for sure if there is a specific tournament.

 

[Lord of Kaos.]

I couldnt find a description of jiraiyas barriar dome jutsu the one he used against pain to know the location of pains charmeleon those any one know it?