[Discussion] You know sometimes you just have to face palm

[valandil988]

Honestly watching the two of them duke it out during their battle I couldn't help but feel it was all spectacle.

The whole classic "They release their strongest techniques" sure its cool for a while but it doesn't really make sense. Its stupid blowing all their energy and power on one one attack that may or may not connect?? Honestly if Naruto had a brain he wouldn't have bothered creating such an overwhelming counter force to Sasuke's attack. Making a smaller attack to slow Sasuk's own technique he could have preserved power and dodged instead.

Honestly Sasuke making himself out to be smarter is basically dis-proven by his own recent battle style. He's been fighting like Naruto not himself. Charge up a big ass technique to defeat the bad guy? Where have I seen that before >_> the only moment he "outwitted" Naruto was when he used the Petra path on him for the first god damn time lol.

But no it has to be a dramatic meeting of techniques....its sooo old school and honestly as much as I enjoyed the fight (sorta) it was just disappointing in the end.

All we got was one big discharge of power and them punching and kicking the crap out of each other. If I wanted to see that I'd look round the back of our restaurant on a Friday night.

Honestly I guess I was hoping for more...not to mention its super short.

So I guess all I'm doing is moaning at well the lack of substance in their battle....it was soo? Shallow? Is that the right word? Sure it was filled with "emotions" but I mean the depth of the physical conflict was so shallow as to be childish.

 

[The Necromancer]

I don't know why Sasuke charged in to attack Naruto, when he literally could have stood there and absorbed any attack Naruto used until he dropped dead.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Naruto would be unable to dodge. The techniques would detonate, so even if Naruto moved out of the arrow's linear path, he'd still get caught up in the blast.

 

[valandil988]

Naruto would be unable to dodge. The techniques would detonate, so even if Naruto moved out of the arrow's linear path, he'd still get caught up in the blast.

Not quite, Naruto's techniques "detonate" and create massive fallout. Sasuke's do not. They are much like shaped charges they direct all the blast in one direction. Sasuke's attacks are always "piercing" in nature ala chidori.

Ergo its natural to assume Indra's arrow is as well. Ergo its likely to be far easier to dodge than to block it. Hence why I face palm watching Naruto block it lawl.

 

[The Amazing Spider Man]

I don't know why Sasuke charged in to attack Naruto, when he literally could have stood there and absorbed any attack Naruto used until he dropped dead.

Yea until Sasuke dropped dead and broke into little stone pieces from all the pure natural chakra

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[valandil988]

Yea until Sasuke dropped dead and broke into little stone pieces from all the pure natural energy

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Actually this is a misnomer. Naruto was able to do that to Pain's path becuase he was absorbing Natural energy at the time and aallowing it to be absorbed directly by Pain's path. Creating Senjutsu and it being absorbed by the petra path presents no problem. Look at Jiraiya in sage mode and the petra path absorbing his senjutsu technique.

Senjutsu does not equal natural energy. True Natural energy in its pure form is very dangerous and has to be balanced with internal chakra to create senjutsu.

Honestly Sasuke could absorb senjutsu all day, he would die if he tried to absorb Natural energy true but Naruto hasn't been shown to be able to wield pure natural energy without forming senjutsu.

Most don't understand that when senjutsu is created in one's body it creates a NEW chakra one that if absorbed is treated like normal chakra it doesn't fragment into natural energy and chakra again its a new fully formed cohesive chakra. That can be used just like any other chakra. Ergo the petra path can absorb it. Its basically just extremely potent chakra.

 

[NineSNS]

It might have been disappointing, but have those two ever done anything that made sense when it came to each other?

 

[The Necromancer]

Yea until Sasuke dropped dead and broke into little stone pieces from all the pure natural chakra

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How do people still not understand how Senjutsu works?

No bodily chakra = No sage mode.

Senjutsu must mix with one's own chakra, without that you can't use senjutsu.

 

[Knights Saotome]

I don't know why Sasuke charged in to attack Naruto, when he literally could have stood there and absorbed any attack Naruto used until he dropped dead.

did you forget, naruto uses sage jutsu? more importantly, frog sage jutsu? if sasuke tried to absorb a massive attack he would be hopping around the rest of his life. the little he stole was fine, but sasuke has no experience balancing chakra in his own body, its always just been his own chakra, while naruto has had training to learn how to balance chakras in his own body, and is capable of doing this with his own, nature, and kurama's chakra.

 

[SSU]

I feel like Naruto is a special case for Sasuke. Obviously he wasn't fighting as he normally does, which is to sit back and strategize instead of his run an gun approach. But when he fights naruto everything changes for him.

 

[valandil988]

How do people still not understand how Senjutsu works?

No bodily chakra = No sage mode.

Senjutsu must mix with one's own chakra, without that you can't use senjutsu.

Exactly I explained above.

did you forget, naruto uses sage jutsu? more importantly, frog sage jutsu? if sasuke tried to absorb a massive attack he would be hopping around the rest of his life. the little he stole was fine, but sasuke has no experience balancing chakra in his own body, its always just been his own chakra, while naruto has had training to learn how to balance chakras in his own body, and is capable of doing this with his own, nature, and kurama's chakra.

I reference you to my post. You might understand senjutsu then.

 

[oShux]

I don't know why Sasuke charged in to attack Naruto, when he literally could have stood there and absorbed any attack Naruto used until he dropped dead.

Plot .

 

[Knights Saotome]

How do people still not understand how Senjutsu works?

No bodily chakra = No sage mode.

Senjutsu must mix with one's own chakra, without that you can't use senjutsu.

that just dilutes it, however i think its more then safe to say, there was plenty of nature enegry in naruto's massive attack, sasuke would be done if he tried to adsorb such concentrated nature energy, whatever it was mixed with naruto's or not.

 

[The Necromancer]

that just dilutes it, however i think its more then safe to say, there was plenty of nature enegry in naruto's massive attack, sasuke would be done if he tried to adsorb such concentrated nature energy, whatever it was mixed with naruto's or not.

Then it's good that I wasn't talking about that point in the battle... U_U

 

[Knights Saotome]

Then it's good that I wasn't talking about that point in the battle... U_U

lol then what point, that was really the only jutsu naruto threw out that could be asorbed? clones? or kurama's chakra hand? other then that naruto was mostly on the D. after they used their super moves they werent throwing out any more jutsu.

 

[valandil988]

that just dilutes it, however i think its more then safe to say, there was plenty of nature enegry in naruto's massive attack, sasuke would be done if he tried to adsorb such concentrated nature energy, whatever it was mixed with naruto's or not.

Then it's good that I wasn't talking about that point in the battle... U_U

Pls everyone just look at my post and you will understand why this is a stupid point of contention....

 

[Punk Hazard]

Not quite, Naruto's techniques "detonate" and create massive fallout. Sasuke's do not. They are much like shaped charges they direct all the blast in one direction. Sasuke's attacks are always "piercing" in nature ala chidori.

Ergo its natural to assume Indra's arrow is as well. Ergo its likely to be far easier to dodge than to block it. Hence why I face palm watching Naruto block it lawl.

If Naruto throws an attack, he'd just be setting himself up for getting caught in a blast wave. If he wanted to dodge, he should have just moved instead of forming any attack at all, but it's likely that the arrow was moving too fast.

 

[SSStylish]

How do people still not understand how Senjutsu works?

No bodily chakra = No sage mode.

Senjutsu must mix with one's own chakra, without that you can't use senjutsu.

90% of the guys in here seem to ignore or have forgotten this fact. So yes, it doesn't make sense, what Sasuke did in the end. He should've absorbed Narutos Rasengan and THAN have used his Enton-Chidori. But oh well, plot I guess.

 

[Knights Saotome]

Actually this is a misnomer. Naruto was able to do that to Pain's path becuase he was absorbing Natural energy at the time and aallowing it to be absorbed directly by Pain's path. Creating Senjutsu and it being absorbed by the petra path presents no problem. Look at Jiraiya in sage mode and the petra path absorbing his senjutsu technique.

Senjutsu does not equal natural energy. True Natural energy in its pure form is very dangerous and has to be balanced with internal chakra to create senjutsu.

Honestly Sasuke could absorb senjutsu all day, he would die if he tried to absorb Natural energy true but Naruto hasn't been shown to be able to wield pure natural energy without forming senjutsu.



Most don't understand that when senjutsu is created in one's body it creates a NEW chakra one that if absorbed is treated like normal chakra it doesn't fragment into natural energy and chakra again its a new fully formed cohesive chakra. That can be used just like any other chakra. Ergo the petra path can absorb it. Its basically just extremely potent chakra.

oh wait, the same thing I already said applies, IT STILL HAS NATURE ENEGRY IN IT. only diluted/ mixed with naruto's, the fact that it is that way dosent mean sasuke wont feel the effects of it if he absorbs it. you still get drunk off beer even if it has only 3 percent alcohol right? now picture the size of that beer to be a whole mother F***ing lake, and drinking it all at once. that would be enough to transform 4 sasukes into toads.

 

[Knights Saotome]

90% of the guys in here seem to ignore or have forgotten this fact. So yes, it doesn't make sense, what Sasuke did in the end. He should've absorbed Narutos Rasengan and THAN have used his Enton-Chidori. But oh well, plot I guess.

naruto wasnt going to let that happen, it was a trump card when sasuke did it, it wouldnt work twice.