[Question] Are the Zoro fans ruining the character for anyone else?

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The 'majority' of the Zoro fanbase are annoying and do tend to overrate him based purely on hype but I don't dislike his character in general he's not my favorite character but he's certainly not the worst character...(Coby).

Other than the overrating Zoro gets his character isn't that bad.
 

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Its Aqeel...no 'u'
Same thing.
The 'majority' of the Zoro fanbase are annoying and do tend to overrate him based purely on hype but I don't dislike his character in general he's not my favorite character but he's certainly not the worst character...(Coby).

Other than the overrating Zoro gets his character isn't that bad.
Agreed. When people say Zoro > Luffy or Zoro >>>>> Smoker, then that's when the fanbase gets bad. They're lucky that Zoro is protected by plot armor so he won't get any type of beating like Smoker/Sanji's at PH/Dressrosa.
 

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Like Uzumaki Macho said there are weekly periods where Zoro fanbase(including me) wank him more than he deserves, but it only happens during these weeks(generally when Zoro does something impressive in the manga). After that, it comes down to normal business as usual and in those times, generally the fanbase isn't as bad as people really describe them to be. Aqeel was really bad before but changed with time.

As far as i know, with the exception of this new guy(Mr.username), i don't think Zoro fanbase really created that much threads to overwank him at all, but for some reasons since a while now, many people create threads about him(most of the current threads are about Zoro) and since i happen to follow the one piece section a lot, i reply to them. Plus, considering i'm a Zoro fan myself, i try to defend him as much as i can but i don't remember one time where i really tried to give him more credit than what was given to him in the manga(could have happened though).

I generally always use references to explain my view and i personally see nothing wrong to defend your favourite character but if defending a character you like make other people hate him, then i can't do anything about it. Concerning his general portrayal in this manga, people want to deny/refuse to admit it or not, but it's true that against some opponents, the real level of Zoro is unknown by us yet

This is generally my opinion in the repetitive Zoro threads that you find in this section

Luffy vs Zoro

PersonA - Luffy is stronger. Why would Zoro follow someone weaker than him?

Me - Luffy is stronger but not because he is the captain. Zoro follows him for other reasons and the whiskey peak battle prove it wasn't because of a difference in power

Battle

PersonB - Luffy wins low-mid difficulty

Me - Luffy wins high-extreme difficulty

Conclusion: You're a fanboy. Zoro fanbase is the worse. For thinking Zoro is weaker but close to his captain level of power?

Zoro vs Smoker

PersonC - Smoker wins mid difficulty

Me - Zoro wins high difficulty

Conclusion: You're a fanboy. Zoro fanbase is the worse. For thinking Zoro is portrayed to be stronger?

Zoro vs Law

PersonD - Law wins low-mid difficulty

Me - Law wins high-extreme difficulty

Conclusion: You're a fanboy. Zoro fanbase is the worse. For thinking Zoro is weaker but close to his level?

Zoro vs Sanji

Enies Lobby Zoro vs Enies Lobby Sanji

PersonE - They are equal or Sanji wins because Jyabura was equal if not stronger than Kaku due to better mastery over his devil fruit and Sanji took him down faster

Me - Enies Lobby Zoro wins between high-extreme difficulty. Sanji had difficulties to put down Jyabura until Diable Jambe. He used his power-up faster than Zoro, hence he defeated him faster. Besides, while Jyabura had his fruit longer, he was relying more on tekkai when Kaku despite having transformation problems, displayed more versatility usage of his devil fruit despite it being new to him and showed greater fire power to the point it threatened even Jyabura, all that including the fact he had more doriki(even if by much) as well as the strongest swordsman in the CP9 makes me believe he was a harder opponent. Still Zoro and Sanji were relatively close at the time but the decisive stronger power-up Zoro possess give him the edge nonetheless

Post-skip Zoro vs Postskip Sanji

PersonF - They are equal because of enies lobby

Me - Zoro was equal to Luffy during a great part of part1. Doesn't mean it remained the same. Past is past. Currently Zoro is portrayed to be stronger. He would win with high difficulty

Conclusion: You're a fanboy. They are equal. Zoro fanbase is the worse. For thinking they aren't equal?


TL;DR: Creating threads just to see if Zoro will be wanked or not like you do sometimes(referring to Algalon) isn't a great idea either because the definition of being wanked or not change depends on each other point of view concerning a character development in a certain manga and it's not like everyone even in the real life always share the same opinion. Hating a character because he gets rated higher than you think is childlish. Like i've said, i myself dislike how Crocodile is overwanked in this section(i don't believe one bit that he is even stronger than Lucci, let alone the number of characters i've seen him defeating in versus) but he still remains and will still remain one of the characters i like the most
 
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Agreed. When people say Zoro > Luffy or Zoro >>>>> Smoker, then that's when the fanbase gets bad. They're lucky that Zoro is protected by plot armor so he won't get any type of beating like Smoker/Sanji's at PH/Dressrosa.
You mean the type of beating he took at Thriller Bark, or Alabasta, even in Sabaody where he was completely humiliated by Kizaru, oh and ofc, let's not forget the beating Mihawk gave him with a small knife, so yeah plot protection.
 

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You mean the type of beating he took at Thriller Bark, or Alabasta, even in Sabaody where he was completely humiliated by Kizaru, oh and ofc, let's not forget the beating Mihawk gave him with a small knife, so yeah plot protection.
I actually see what Yo Momma was talking about. Zoro is Oda's golden boy, really. He never gets beaten in a way that is one-sided. If Zoro gets a beating, there is always some taste of badassery thrown in. Like his promise to Luffy against Mihawk, the praise the people on Thriller Bark gave him for surviving Oars' kick, etc. Not that it's necessarily a bad thing, mind you, it is pretty awesome, but Zoro rarely gets moments where he's just completely embarassed or outdone.
 

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You mean the type of beating he took at Thriller Bark, or Alabasta, even in Sabaody where he was completely humiliated by Kizaru, oh and ofc, let's not forget the beating Mihawk gave him with a small knife, so yeah plot protection.
I was talking about post-TS. Anyways, Zoro hasn't lost 3 times in a single arc, like Smoker has. It seems like his fanbase got really bad since the TS (specifically PH/Dressrosa).
 
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I think u are are blowing things out of proportion. People love to pick on the hardcore Zoro fans more than them being annoying in my opinion. I get the feeling it's sort of the new trend to downplay Zoro around here at every possible moment.
 

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I think u are are blowing things out of proportion. People love to pick on the hardcore Zoro fans more than them being annoying in my opinion. I get the feeling it's sort of the new trend to downplay Zoro around here at every possible moment.
This confuses me every time. It's always that people are downplaying Zoro, and never that people may be making him seem better than he is. How do you know you're not overplaying him, and some of this downplaying is actually his real level?
 

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Not really. Your opinion should be based on your own impressions of manga and certain character.

However, discussion with other people can change your perspective on some things and point out something you haven't noticed which can change how you see some situations or characters. But, your general opinon about something should not be changed that easily, especially not when we are talking about people who only wanking certain character.
 

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Nah, not much. I always see his awesomeness as necessary, for him to be Luffy's right hand man. Don't bother yourself too much with the redundant biased comments on Zoro, it's like we're concerning ourselves with why Justin Bieber fans say his talent in singing beats other singers by miles U_U

Don't get me wrong. Not all Zoro fans are biased, i think it's good that he has been admired, and his fans deserve to have some spaces to discuss about Zoro's badassery just like other characters because it's his moment. What i can't accept is some Zoro fans blindly put him on top without giving solid arguments and proves. So does other fanbases :)

No.

The way other fans talk about a character has nothing to do with the way a mangaka writes their character so it has no affect on the way I view a character.
:hooray: Yes, Kami-sama! I honestly couldn't agree more U_U

They made me hate Zoro. They say Zoro can beat everyone. The Monster Trio are all equal in full-power IMO.
Even though my ava is Zoro. :/
LOL the ava hehe
But i don't think you have to hate him. Zoro is being portrayed as badass ever since he was introduced in the series. 3 swords wielder, pirate hunting for food only, rough and strict. He's a typical candidate for a pirate vice captain.
 

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Agreed. When people say Zoro > Luffy or Zoro >>>>> Smoker, then that's when the fanbase gets bad.

I haven't seen anyone saying Zoro > Luffy and Yes, Zoro is > Smoker.


They're lucky that Zoro is protected by plot armor so he won't get any type of beating like Smoker/Sanji's at PH/Dressrosa.

Every character has a plot armor and that's why smoker and Sanji are still alive.
 
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