[Spoilers] Sasuke lost [NOT THE WAY WE THINK]

[Donald J Trump]

Sasuke lost yes, but if you understand he didn't loose in the fight, he lost his hatred/his darkness, his emotional battle with Naruto.

In a fight when two people fall down, both missing an arm, both unable to move and are bleeding out, do we really have a winner? How can you have a winner for that?It's like me and my friend both get knocked out at the same time but he says he lost, no he didn't.The emotional battle has been won by Uzumaki Naruto, while the physical battle was a draw, meaning the overall battle was granted to Naruto- but not in the way most of us thought before.

Kishimoto portrayed Naruto and Sasuke as YIN and YANG strength wise and he knew very well having no winners, would upset the readers, having one winner would as well, so he basically had a winner and a draw at the same time.

 

[obito uchiha the wraith]

i agree he lost in ideals not in battle.

 

[Sir Blades]

Sasuke lost, stop making excuses and reading beyond the dialogue for something that doesnt exist.

 

[-immortal-]

HE LOST



me the god of SB tells u!

 

[Kakooli]

Agreed, op but inb4 "I lost" panel spam by Naruto trolls who are so hurt that their hero could only equal his rival who solo'd him throughout the series. I get why they're being salty and clutching at straws, I would feel embarrassed too if I betted on a horse that should have been guaranteed to defeat his rival in battle, merely by virtue of having the status as the main character of the show.

 

[SupremeWater]

HE LOST



me the god of SB tells u!

If the god of SB says so..........................

 

[SupremeWater]

Agreed, .

you agreed so what more do you need to say

 

[Tsukikami Uchiha]

yep.. no more EMO Sasuke.. he decidedly sucks now.. and that sucks, but whatevs

 

[Darkboy85]

Even naruto said this:

"You stupid *******, this isn't a fight you can win or lose".

 

[UzumakiRyu]

Lost the battle of ideal's but that was the battle Naruto was fighting all along against Sasuke which he won...but I'm tired and stayed up to long discussing this long enough already goodnight and enjoy your arguments without me

 

[iFlowMotion]

I agree with the OP

 

[Crixes1]

Agreed, op but inb4 "I lost" panel spam by Naruto trolls who are so hurt that their hero could only equal his rival who solo'd him throughout the series. I get why they're being salty and clutching at straws, I would feel embarrassed too if I betted on a horse that should have been guaranteed to defeat his rival in battle, merely by virtue of having the status as the main character of the show.

I'm Sorry, but I had to log in for this. I'm sick and tired of seeing this dude troll. Spamming predictions about how Naruto is going to lose and then he actually wins and he is so blinded by denial that he refuses to acknowledge what really happened.
Naruto won and is simply better then Sasuke in every way except for looks. End of story. Naruto beat Sasuke when he continued to get never ending upgrades for free, getting power boosts and still losing to Naruto. The main thing sasuke butt hurt fans are forgetting is, Sasuke had intent to kill Naruto by using his full power. Naruto had intent of just stopping his friend by holding back so he wouldn't kill him.
Now, Sasuke did say he lost. That means multiple things. You stopped me, I lost my hatred, you clearly have stronger ideals, and succeeded. What this means is, Sasuke now has room to grow and become stronger.
Naruto is the clear victor here by defeating and stopping sasuke, while bringing his friend back. It took him 698 Chapters to accomplish this. Don't try and sell it short of what it really is. gg.

 

[Kurama999]

Nope. Kakashi will explain.
It was the 'win-win' And cannot mentioned about Sasuke 'revolution' ideal, as only Team 7 were present. (excl Sai)
So, both were fighting Kaguya and Sasuke was badly injured, giving Sasuke had redeemed himself.
Just like Obito that he too finally fight for the shinobi.

(btw, although i am not the 'pure' Sasuke fan, but had to give Sasuke the some credit.)

 

[Ammms]

he didn't loose in the fight, he lost his hatred/his darkness, his emotional battle with Naruto.

you have a same thought with me

 

[Kakooli]

I'm Sorry, but I had to log in for this. I'm sick and tired of seeing this dude troll. Spamming predictions about how Naruto is going to lose and then he actually wins and he is so blinded by denial that he refuses to acknowledge what really happened.
Naruto won and is simply better then Sasuke in every way except for looks. End of story. Naruto beat Sasuke when he continued to get never ending upgrades for free, getting power boosts and still losing to Naruto. The main thing sasuke butt hurt fans are forgetting is, Sasuke had intent to kill Naruto by using his full power. Naruto had intent of just stopping his friend by holding back so he wouldn't kill him.
Now, Sasuke did say he lost. That means multiple things. You stopped me, I lost my hatred, you clearly have stronger ideals, and succeeded. What this means is, Sasuke now has room to grow and become stronger.
Naruto is the clear victor here by defeating and stopping sasuke, while bringing his friend back. It took him 698 Chapters to accomplish this. Don't try and sell it short of what it really is. gg.

lmfao you made an account just for me? I am honored! I admit that Naruto won the battle of ideals and I always knew that was going to be the case but in terms of combat, they were equals. The best Naruto could do as the main character of the series was neutralize his rival, he didn't win. They're in the same state currently, both are unable to move and both are missing and arm. If they move, they die of blood loss, Naruto's words not mine.

The fact remains that Sasuke had the rinnegan for a few hours in the manga, Naruto has had a bijuu for 4 years and the best Naruto could do was tie. Kishi even had to insert a clause to justify why Sasuke couldn't just absorb Naruto's final attack and finish him off with the ama/chidori, because he wasn't experienced enough for the rinnegan. If anything, this is the best possible result Naruto could have ever managed against Sasuke because if he had a full grasp of the rinnegan abilities Naruto would have been absolutely blitzed. Nevertheless, I'll take the draw, it's kind of rare for a main character to not be able to defeat his rival in shonen manga.

 

[Mr Hiru]

Sasuke lost yes, but if you understand he didn't loose in the fight, he lost his hatred/his darkness, his emotional battle with Naruto.

In a fight when two people fall down, both missing an arm, both unable to move and are bleeding out, do we really have a winner? How can you have a winner for that?It's like me and my friend both get knocked out at the same time but he says he lost, no he didn't.The emotional battle has been won by Uzumaki Naruto, while the physical battle was a draw, meaning the overall battle was granted to Naruto- but not in the way most of us thought before.

Kishimoto portrayed Naruto and Sasuke as YIN and YANG strength wise and he knew very well having no winners, would upset the readers, having one winner would as well, so he basically had a winner and a draw at the same time.

Fact is fact: Sasuke lost, but he won at the same time.

From the moment Naruto spoke about how did he feel about Sasuke's revolution, Sasuke lost his path to revolution, but at the same time he found his family.

 

[Jnaru]

Obito said the same thing.....and accepted defeat.... Decent people accepts wen they lost battle.....

 

[minatouzumaki17]

Sasuke lost yes, but if you understand he didn't loose in the fight, he lost his hatred/his darkness, his emotional battle with Naruto.

In a fight when two people fall down, both missing an arm, both unable to move and are bleeding out, do we really have a winner? How can you have a winner for that?It's like me and my friend both get knocked out at the same time but he says he lost, no he didn't.The emotional battle has been won by Uzumaki Naruto, while the physical battle was a draw, meaning the overall battle was granted to Naruto- but not in the way most of us thought before.

Kishimoto portrayed Naruto and Sasuke as YIN and YANG strength wise and he knew very well having no winners, would upset the readers, having one winner would as well, so he basically had a winner and a draw at the same time.

Well you use the example of you and your friend both getting knocked out at the same time, and even if he said he lost he didnt,
but Sasuke was the one who got knocked out and Naruto was wide awake waiting for him to regain consciousness.
So sasuke got knocked out and Naruto didnt thus in your very own example Naruto won.

 

[Crixes1]

lmfao you made an account just for me? I am honored! I admit that Naruto won the battle of ideals and I always knew that was going to be the case but in terms of combat, they were equals. The best Naruto could do as the main character of the series was neutralize his rival, he didn't win. They're in the same state currently, both are unable to move and both are missing and arm. If they move, they die of blood loss, Naruto's words not mine.

The fact remains that Sasuke had the rinnegan for a few hours in the manga, Naruto has had a bijuu for 4 years and the best Naruto could do was tie. Kishi even had to insert a clause to justify why Sasuke couldn't just absorb Naruto's final attack and finish him off with the ama/chidori, because he wasn't experienced enough for the rinnegan. If anything, this is the best possible result Naruto could have ever managed against Sasuke because if he had a full grasp of the rinnegan abilities Naruto would have been absolutely blitzed. Nevertheless, I'll take the draw, it's kind of rare for a main character to not be able to defeat his rival in shonen manga.

The fact that you cant accept the obvious is so delicious. [video=youtube;owzhYNcd4OM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owzhYNcd4OM[/video]

 

[Donald J Trump]

Well you use the example of you and your friend both getting knocked out at the same time, and even if he said he lost he didnt,
but Sasuke was the one who got knocked out and Naruto was wide awake waiting for him to regain consciousness.
So sasuke got knocked out and Naruto didnt thus in your very own example Naruto won.

What good is being wide awake if I can't move?

being wide awake just means I have better healing abilities. Its basically me and my friend fighting, I wake up and he is awake but neither of us can move. So that just means he can't damage me any further if we were trying to hurt each other.