Kaguya, JJ Hagoromo and JJ Madara can bust the moon

[KCMNaruto]

Hello guys , I am little bored so I decided to bring Restriction of TBB thing to topic and estabilish the reason of Kaguya, Hagoromo(as JJ in flashback) and Ten tails host Madara not using TBB. Please bare with me as Here I go:

Well, there is not doubt that Ten tails beast bomb is the most destructive and powerfull attack in Narutoverse:

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^^ The casual Incomplete Ten tails(Gyuuki, Kurama chakra less) beast bomb in second form destructive power.

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^^ Incomplete Ten tails(Gyuuki, Kurama chakra less) massive beast bomb destructive power.

It caused the blast across whole Frost Country being unleashed at top of water's surface:

just take a look at the map:

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^^ This blast is considered Country buster at least.

Obito used the same Ten tails bomb in Host state but multiply by four in numbers:

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^^ Gyuuki statement as reply to Killer Bee question confirms that Juubi Jinchurki has same power as Juubi.

The only difference is Juubi Jinchurki can make smart use of it and focus it making attacks more potent and deadly

It seems at this point Kishi decided to switch to just potency of attack but working as focused attack limited on small Area, just like Akira was doing later in DBZ.

It is sad and disappointing because later on Madara put All Tailed beasts into Gedo Mazou except Yin Kurama who was in Minato at that point.

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^^ It is shame we have never witnessed that Juubi's destructive power in action...

There is no doubt that Almost complete Ten tails(Yin Kurama chakra less) massive beast bomb destructive power could at least bust entire continent, possibly even moon buster.

Now what about Complete Ten tails massive beast bomb destructive power could at least bust the moon:

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^^ The Juubi of which Hagoromo was host...

and now finally to Kaguya:

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^^ It is not to farfetched to claim Kaguya could be close to planet buster...

CONCLUSION :​

• The Host and The Ten tails beast posses same power output, the difference is only that Host can focus all that power increasing potency of attack.
• Obito's Juubi version and Juubi Jinchurki Obito is small country level buster to country buster at the most
• Madara's Juubi version and Juubi Jinchurki Madara is Multi countries buster to continental buster at the most
• Hagoromo Juubi version and Juubi Jinchurki Hagoromo is continental buster to at the most moon buster
• Present time Kaguya is around moon buster reaching towards global life wiper while Prime Past Kaguya was planet buster.
• The reason TBB was forbidden to use for JJ Madara, JJ Hagoromo and Kaguya was to not draw massive explosion and take risk of it going off charts being too big.

Thanks for reading !

Please share your thoughts

 

[Awkward Linguist]

Did read

10/10 thread

would definitely read again

ty and madara rules​

 

[BlacLord™]

That Juubidama wasn't casual, it was going all-out.

And no more than a small country buster.

 

[Seventh Sama]

Well, yeah. Pretty much...

 

[Element Master]

Did read

10/10 thread

would definitely read again

ty and madara rules​

Can confirm, would read again
Edit: I can't rep you for this thread

 

[Ansatsuken]

I like every of your thread KCMNaruto, and I approved it.

 

[KCMNaruto]

That Juubidama wasn't casual, it was going all-out.

And no more than a small country buster.

Yes it was not casual but it was from Juubi lacking Gyuuki and Kurama chakra almost as whole, just tiny bits of chakra of both

Madara's Juubi had Gyuuki and Yang Kurama more, which is more then enough to make difference and Hagoromo's Juubi was complete so it would be just slightly above Madara's Juubi power destruction.

Yang Kurama ~ 22% of Juubi
Yin Kurama ~22% of Juubi
Gyuuki ~ 13% of Juubi
Shukaku - 1% of Juubi
Matabi - 2% of Juubi
Isobu - 4% of Juubi
Son Goku - 6% of Juubi
Kokuo - 8% of Juubi
Saiken - 10% of Juubi
Chomei - 12% of Juubi

I think is the amount of Tailed beasts being used to make Juubi.

Did read

10/10 thread

would definitely read again

ty and madara rules​

^^ thank you

I only speak truth

Well, yeah. Pretty much...

Yeah thanks

 

[Da Best Ever]

Didn't black zetsu say kaguya was going to make a explosion to recreate the universe.

Anyway, this only enlarges the power gap between the juubi jins and naruto and sasuke. Juubito could have ended the SA and naruto and sasuke a long time ago with juubidamas. They would have never made made it to Godara or kaguya. Kishi nerfed the juubi jins and completely took away from them their ultimate jutsu. Naruto and sasuke even at their current levels still aren't together better than juubito with juubidamas.

 

[Ansatsuken]

Didn't black zetsu say kaguya was going to make a explosion to recreate the universe.

Anyway, this only enlarges the power gap between the juubi jins and naruto and sasuke. Juubito could have ended the SA and naruto and sasuke a long time ago with juubidamas. They would have never made made it to Godara or kaguya. Kishi nerfed the juubi jins and completely took away from them their ultimate jutsu. Naruto and sasuke even at their current levels still aren't together better than juubito with juubidamas.

Yes, you are right, actually kishi dont know what he is doing in period of jj madara arc to the kaguya arc as he just think to end the manga immediatly as his editor want.

 

[KCMNaruto]

Didn't black zetsu say kaguya was going to make a explosion to recreate the universe.

Anyway, this only enlarges the power gap between the juubi jins and naruto and sasuke. Juubito could have ended the SA and naruto and sasuke a long time ago with juubidamas. They would have never made made it to Godara or kaguya. Kishi nerfed the juubi jins and completely took away from them their ultimate jutsu. Naruto and sasuke even at their current levels still aren't together better than juubito with juubidamas.

I was about to agree with you, but bold part NO, just no.

Both of them would rape Juubito with neg diff at their current level, back then yes, but now no chance for Obito.

Separately it is debatable although

Together they match or barerly surprass JJ Madara

Yes, you are right, actually kishi dont know what he is doing in period of jj madara arc to the kaguya arc as he just think to end the manga immediatly as his editor want.

I agree with last part of sentence, definietly Kishi rushed it and it was too much for him to handle it for such short of time

 

[Sir Cool Blizzard]

I agree bro. It is quite clear that they are at that level of power. In the lastt movie the "moon itself is falling", which itself tells us a lot about the power levels.
And for those who are saying that NV is still at island level. That level was surpassed long ago by BM Naruto himself. U_U

 

[Seventh Sama]

Didn't black zetsu say kaguya was going to make a explosion to recreate the universe.

Anyway, this only enlarges the power gap between the juubi jins and naruto and sasuke. Juubito could have ended the SA and naruto and sasuke a long time ago with juubidamas. They would have never made made it to Godara or kaguya. Kishi nerfed the juubi jins and completely took away from them their ultimate jutsu. Naruto and sasuke even at their current levels still aren't together better than juubito with juubidamas.

Yeah but nothing states that her dimension is universe sized.

 

[Dondaime Hokage Naruto]

Didn't black zetsu say kaguya was going to make a explosion to recreate the universe.

Anyway, this only enlarges the power gap between the juubi jins and naruto and sasuke. Juubito could have ended the SA and naruto and sasuke a long time ago with juubidamas. They would have never made made it to Godara or kaguya. Kishi nerfed the juubi jins and completely took away from them their ultimate jutsu. Naruto and sasuke even at their current levels still aren't together better than juubito with juubidamas.

Agreed. The Jins never used their full power against the heroes... (especially Madara and Kaguya) That means a lot... Destructive wise, both Madara and Kaguya are on a different lvl than Naruto and Sasuke. Madara called his CT meteors raintrops(meaning that he could do more) and Kaguya's Gudoma was not used after she created it...

 

[Da Best Ever]

Yeah but nothing states that her dimension is universe sized.

All realities are the same in nature. Marvel follows this and that is why all realities together make up the Marvel Multiverse. Dc has one universe but use to follow this same pattern.

 

[Seventh Sama]

All realities are the same in nature. Marvel follows this and that is why all realities together make up the Marvel Multiverse. Dc has one universe but use to follow this same pattern.

Ehh I guess so since kaguyas dimension has to be at least planet level . Naruto did say that the CT he and sasuke used on kaguya is close to moon size and it was still forming.

 

[Otibo]

No, stop saying the juubi was incomplete. You forgot that it regenerated it's chakra to reach it's final form there was no need for the kyuub. Even if it did by power scaling it still wouldn't be moon busting

 

[Otibo]

All realities are the same in nature. Marvel follows this and that is why all realities together make up the Marvel Multiverse. Dc has one universe but use to follow this same pattern.

BS no they are not, kaguyas dimensions are obviously pocket dimensions like obito's

 

[KCMNaruto]

No, stop saying the juubi was incomplete. You forgot that it regenerated it's chakra to reach it's final form there was no need for the kyuub. Even if it did by power scaling it still wouldn't be moon busting

How is that by powerscalling Half of Kurama would be little below initial Juubi but considering added nature energy Full Kurama would still matches it.

Yes, it makes difference so deal with it or bring proofs to disprove it

 

[Seventh Sama]

BS no they are not, kaguyas dimensions are obviously pocket dimensions like obito's

Her pocket dimension still have to be pretty big to have a moon.

 

[Otibo]

Her pocket dimension still have to be pretty big to have a moon.

Obviously not universe level like he was saying, they aren't entire dimensions because obito even states that there are distance between them, meaning they are smaller dimensions within the universe itself.