If Gai is top 10 , Itachi should be up there too

[Mellow]

Insulting more people? How unhappy are you in life?

Why didn't he use Genjutus on Guy before? Right, because it wouldnt work given his methodology of avoiding it. They clashed before, and it didn't happen for all its OPness in Part 1.

Knowledge is only useful when tempered with wisdom.

*talks in slow motion*
May- be fig-ting was not ee-tachis top priority . say it with me. PRI ority

 

[CDT23]

Well, this was a cute joke. Almost made me laugh. Almost.

-Gai gets hit by Amaterasu if he looks only at Itachi's feet. Or any other physical attack for that matter.

-Kakashi attempted to fight Itachi like that in part two. He told Sakura and Naruto the same. It didn't work. Mainly because, when Itachi fights he barely even moves. It's useless.

-Itachi's MS genjutsus can't be dispelled with seals. Tsukiyomi is definitely not going to be, Gai can't even react to that.

-Base Gai makes a complete mockery of Itachi's genjutsu? Base Gai has a lower score than Base Itachi (who has his illness and no sharingan factored in) according to the databook.

Conclusion: Gai doesn't make it to the 8th gate. Itachi doesn't let him even make it to the 7th before taking him out. I'm sorry, but Gai loses. There's literally no other way around it.

This^ unlike Madara, Itachi doesnt allow time for people to show off their assets.

 

[The Necromancer]

Insulting more people? How unhappy are you in life?

Why didn't he use Genjutus on Guy before? Right, because it wouldnt work given his methodology of avoiding it. They clashed before, and it didn't happen for all its OPness in Part 1.

Knowledge is only useful when tempered with wisdom.

:vincent:

Because he was a spy for Konoha who had no intention of killing anyone. Had he so easily defeated Gai there would have been no plausible reason for him to give Kisame for retreat.

-Finger Genjutsu
-Amaterasu
-Seal Speed

All things that could defeat guy well before activating the 5th gate, let alone all 8.

 

[Xāvî1]

Don't tell me you're forgetting almost killed the most powerful person in NV... Gai would probably destroy even Naruto (if PNJ was disabled).

did gai kill madara? if he did then come back to me, if you can't even kill someone with a suicide technique its not even worthy!

 

[Chie]

Compared a Naruto character to Goku... abandon thread. Gai's reaction speed is enough to allow him to fight with his eyes closed, and at the most, looking away from Itachi. Since Itachi's only method of defence against Gai's taijutsu is Yata Mirror and Totsuka blade, while he tries to attack Gai, Gai wears him out making his Susanoo fall and Hirudora is a matter of time.

That made no sense, I'm sorry. Gai has no sensory capabilities which would allow him to fight Itachi with his eyes closed. You just set him up to get hit by any physical attack Itachi has in his arsenal, prior to him even making it to 8 gates.

 

[Torche]

Chiyo's rule about fighting Sharingan users remains true to this day.

Yes, except if the entire group is caught in Genjutsu; they can't break each other out.

 

[Jiraiyathesannin]

Insulting more people? How unhappy are you in life?

Why didn't he use Genjutus on Guy before? Right, because it wouldnt work given his methodology of avoiding it. They clashed before, and it didn't happen for all its OPness in Part 1.

Knowledge is only useful when tempered with wisdom.

I told him the same thing. He's always grumpy. He knows he can talk to be if he needs

 

[Mellow]

Yes, except if the entire group is caught in Genjutsu; they can't break each other out.

and backed by the scan in the OP , itachi is capable of putting a whole group to sleep

 

[Chie]

This^ unlike Madara, Itachi doesnt allow time for people to show off their assets.

True. He has a polar opposite personality when it comes to fighting.

Madara loves to drag it out and physically hurt opponents. He's good at "dancing". Lol
Itachi always strives to end things before they even really begin, he doesn't enjoy combat.

 

[Torche]

and backed by the scan in the OP , itachi is capable of putting a whole group to sleep

Yep, that's what I said in the other post.

True. He has a polar opposite personality when it comes to fighting.

Madara loves to drag it out and physically hurt opponents. He's good at "dancing". Lol
Itachi always strives to end things before they even really begin, he doesn't enjoy combat.

That's why if they were to 1 V 1 Madara would loose. He would call Itachi's Susano'o fodder, mock him, and end up being pierced and sealed by Totsuka. Lol It'd be Orochimaru 2.0.

 

[Mellow]

Yep, that's what I said in the other post.

its funny seeing haters try

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[Torche]

its funny seeing haters try

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Indeed.

Dat Lelouch sig doe. XD Has me dying. Lol

 

[Conspirator.]

7th Gate gai actually beats Itachi.

-Too fast for Amaterasu, given how he held his own against Rikudo Madara for a short time.
-Even in base, Gai can fight by avoiding eye contact. So Tsukuyomi and all other eye contact genjutsu is useless.
-In the 7th gate, Gai is simply too fast to be hit with finger genjutsu or any other variants of that. Plus the pain of the gates probably acts as a "genjutsu kai" for weak genjutsu anyways.
-War arc Gai has stamina feats to suggest that he can pull of a Hirudora barrage.(Just one was able to destroy Madara's v3 susanoo). When that happens, only v4 with the yata mirror can save Itachi,
-Gai simply waits till Itachi's susanoo drops, and kills him with Hirudora.

 

[The Necromancer]

7th Gate gai actually beats Itachi,

-Too fast for Amaterasu, given how he held his own against Rikudo Madara for a short time.
-Even in base, Gai can fight by avoiding eye contact. So Tsukuyomi and all other eye contact genjutsu is useless.
-In the 7th gate, Gai is simply too fast to be hit with finger genjutsu or any other variants of that. Plus the pain of the gates probably acts as a "genjutsu kai" for weak genjutsu anyways.
-War arc Gai has stamina feats to suggest that he can pull of a Hirudora barrage.(1 was able of overwhelm Madara's v3 susanoo). When that happens, only v4 with the yata mirror can save Itachi,
-Gai simply waits till Itachi's susanoo drops, and kills him with Hirudora.

All true, if Gai could make it to the 7th gate, which is highly unlikely.

 

[Chie]

7th Gate gai actually beats Itachi.

-Too fast for Amaterasu, given how he held his own against Rikudo Madara for a short time.
-Even in base, Gai can fight by avoiding eye contact. So Tsukuyomi and all other eye contact genjutsu is useless.
-In the 7th gate, Gai is simply too fast to be hit with finger genjutsu or any other variants of that. Plus the pain of the gates probably acts as a "genjutsu kai" for weak genjutsu anyways.
-War arc Gai has stamina feats to suggest that he can pull of a Hirudora barrage.(Just one was able to destroy Madara's v3 susanoo). When that happens, only v4 with the yata mirror can save Itachi,
-Gai simply waits till Itachi's susanoo drops, and kills him with Hirudora.

I agree that if Gai already starts out in the 7th gate, he beats Itachi. However, given Itachi's nature, he'd end Gai very early on. Probably before he even enters the 5th gate.

 

[Oddity]

XXXXXXXXXX Wrong. How can one whos combat tactic solely relies on Taijutsu, hand to hand combat, fight wit their eyes closed the whole time? That would just set him up for failure.


Did you really write that ?

Guy specifically came up with a way around fighting dojustu users
He states this himself.

Using rhetoric to dismiss manga fact is not a good way to get people to listen to you.

 

[Gatsuuga]

All true, if Gai could make it to the 7th gate, which is highly unlikely.

Why couldn't he? When itachi cast finger Jutsu on naruto he still used jutsu. Sakura even said that he ran out and used rasengan on nothing. If naruto can still form a technique that requires the highest form of shape manipulation whilst in finger genjutsu why can't guy open the gates?

 

[Megatolium]

Sorry but Gai f*cked up Madara, despite being the freaking Jinchuuriki of the Ten Tails.

Itachi is no chance against Gai in the 8th Gates. Itachi is overrated by fans.

 

[Scryed]

Wouldn't the pain of the gates break Gai out of finger genjutsu?

He'd also be too fast for Amaterasu and if he avoids eye contact, he avoids Tsukyomi.

Talking about 7th gate btw.

 

[LOCKKO REE]

Let's be reasonable here, Gai cannot enter the 8th gate faster than the blink of an eye , or the point of a finger , or even having itachi in his presence.
While guy is entering the gates , it is similar to Goku going super saiyan, which takes time.

" guy knows to not look at itachi so that counters tsukuyomi"

XXXXXXXXXX Wrong. How can one whos combat tactic solely relies on Taijutsu, hand to hand combat, fight wit their eyes closed the whole time? That would just set him up for failure.

Don't give that " bit he could've killed madara shit either " XD madara toyed with him and he let him do that much damage cuz he knew he would heal. Its obvious.

Now let's get to the mangafax...

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As stated here , itachi can cast genjutsu on multiple people outside of sensory range, MEANING what? He doesn't even need to have direct contact with you, a finger point, a glance , any thing. Just a range. And guy has no genjutsu breaking feats or genjutsu specialty.
Gai would literally be dreamin about beating itachi.

Itachi is top 10. Haters gonna HATE

don't sh*t here and there butthurt....
just follow your sig......