The amount that Naruto has been nerfed is just ridiculous

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  • This fight sucks

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  • This fight is good

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  • We already know Lawd Naruto-sama neg diffs

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  • Why the **** did Sakura wake up?!

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a wise man[both Naruto & Sasuke fan] once said
Love is a battlefield.

so i m gonna fire shots and enjoy

I don't think that people are trying to find love in this thread. And if they are, they have been doing a very poor job of understanding one another. For the most part, anyway.
 

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Its like you said theyve been battling gods for 3 days straight lol. How much chakra do you think they have bruh
 

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*still waiting for Sasuke's open eye*

I conceded that, hence why I didn't reply. Preta works the same for all characters with the Rin'negan, so Sasuke used his arm and Naruto's body as a medium to absorb the chakra, and didn't need his eye open for it. The only qualm I had with it was that I didn't think Sasuke could have absorbed the Rasengan because he didn't have control of his eye at the time (this is still up in the air but it's useless to argue this at this point because he showed the ability to do it soon after), but it's a moot point now. I'm amazed at how much Sasuke has shown with the Rin'negan in what, half an hour of having it? (Not factoring in the fact that the fight has lasted hours, but the feats we've seen with it in the war and the few panels in this fight have been minute intervals). Preta, Deva, S/T, mass Genjutsu. Not bad for having the eye for only a day.
 

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I don't think that people are trying to find love in this thread. And if they are, they have been doing a very poor job of understanding one another. For the most part, anyway.

Whatever u say bro and Madara Rules :|

OT: Lmao the OP is bunch of fanfic as expected :leaf:
 

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The only nerf is Sasuke who has to use a lot of punches to do the same Damage Naruto dose with one punch, Sasuke is a wimp for sure.
 

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> Says I wank Naruto and Madara.
> Shows post in other thread where I say Current Sasuke can solo DR JJ Madara.
> Didn't actually ignore feats but imbecile is grasping at straws (Already conceded his S/T feats along with his PS but you chose to ignore that).
> actually thinks I read every post he makes in other threads.
> Ignores what we are discussing in this thread and tries to bring up other threads
> Brings up Current Sasuke versus DR JJ Madara as if that's debatable. Of course current Sasuke shits.

You stated that Naruto showed signs of superiority to Sasuke in the Madara fight which is completely foolish.
 

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Clearly the limbos were still there and Naruto's clone were gone
I thought that Naruto blocked Limbos with his gudoudama rods
Sasuke was never saved by anyone vs madara ecxept kabuto, the hell you talk about?

But the point is that nardo's feats dont mean a thing since kaguya was holding back at first and the was holding back still to preserve chakra, even so naruto and sasuke were about to die if not for Obito.
This proves that even holding back Kaguya too much to deal for Sasuke.
 

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No, buddy, you've got it all wrong.
  • Sasuke isn't even using the Sage's chakra (Yin Release).
  • Sasuke using Itachi's eyes is a moot point, since he has none of Itachi's abilities that he didn't have prior to acquiring the latter's eyes.
  • It's not even about given power; that's what you Naruto fans can't comprehend. To be given power is one thing; to use that power on your own is another. Naruto isn't known to use his given power on his own at all (he apparently lacks the ability to do so).
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  • How many times must it be stated that Kurama is essentially like having another human being inside of you that gathers chakra for and can relay information to you, as well as grant you abilities derivative of it? This is why Naruto isn't nerfed. Those abilities are those of Kurama, not him.

They prepared their chakra for him which he used himself. It's his skills to use their power that matters. Naruto still had to train to use KM plus got hands on experiences by making 12 clones that all fought on different battlefields; this left Naruto completely exhausted but he replenished his stamina when Kurama friended him. Naruto is repeating the benefits of suffering 16 years with Kurama. Sasuke got MS and pushed his MS powers to the limit in his fights to master its power, he didn't really do it to that extent with EMS and was pulling enhanced abilities out in the midst of battle. Both used training/experiences of past battles/training with their current powers.

The Bijuus made chakra and Naruto use it in a way to allow him to face his foes who all have hax abilities. The Bijuus are t actually taking over Naruto's body and using their own power and jutsus. Naruto didn't use any jutsus we saw the Edo Jins use while using the Bijuus powers. Sasuke's EMS is Itachi and his MS powers combining and he said he can feel Itachi power in him. It gave Sasuke his sight back, power that's comparable to Bijuu, and increased allof his MS jutsus power and use of said power. One gets sight and use of his MS jutsus and the other is given chakra with abilities. Same thing when it all boils down to it
 

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I thought that Naruto blocked Limbos with his gudoudama rods
This proves that even holding back Kaguya too much to deal for Sasuke.
One Limbo after it got hit by jiton Rasengan and Black chidori
Other 4 clones were nvr seen again after they went againST 4 LIMBOS OF MADDY :|
 

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> actually thinks I read every post he makes in other threads.
> Ignores what we are discussing in this thread and tries to bring up other threads
> Brings up Current Sasuke versus DR JJ Madara as if that's debatable. Of course current Sasuke shits.

You stated that Naruto showed signs of superiority to Sasuke in the Madara fight which is completely foolish.

> Doesn't care.
> What discussion? This is a cluster*uck, not an intelligent discussion.
> It is debatable, not a stomp. Not many people yet believe Current Sasuke is above DR JJ Madara, but it is obvious.

He... did. Sasuke showcased an agile PS and the beginning of his mastery over his Rin'negan shift. Naruto went toe to toe with JJ Madara limbo clones with his own clones, sealed one on his own, showed destruction capabilities far above anyone we have seen nigh whatever what would have come out of Kaguya's TSB, all the while staying accurate and not hitting Sasuke with his TBBFRS'.
 

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This proves that even holding back Kaguya too much to deal for Sasuke.

No it doesnt, this proves that naruto had more time fighting her and managed to deal some damage most of it when sasuke distracted kaguya, since he's more appealing and stuff :rolleyes:
Mmmhm, very believable:happy:
You disappoint me. Your fault you beat around the bush too much, now shush loser
 
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u guys know wut by ops logic Kishi nerfed Sasuke :snick:

Human Path instead of Preta Path GG :leaf:
 
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I conceded that, hence why I didn't reply. Preta works the same for all characters with the Rin'negan, so Sasuke used his arm and Naruto's body as a medium to absorb the chakra, and didn't need his eye open for it. The only qualm I had with it was that I didn't think Sasuke could have absorbed the Rasengan because he didn't have control of his eye at the time (this is still up in the air but it's useless to argue this at this point because he showed the ability to do it soon after), but it's a moot point now. I'm amazed at how much Sasuke has shown with the Rin'negan in what, half an hour of having it? (Not factoring in the fact that the fight has lasted hours, but the feats we've seen with it in the war and the few panels in this fight have been minute intervals). Preta, Deva, S/T, mass Genjutsu. Not bad for having the eye for only a day.

Alright. And I agree, having for 30 minutes and doing things Nagato couldn't achieve in a lifetime is more than impressive. I don't even want to understand his Rinnegan abilities, say, 10 years from now. I disagree on the moot point part. And he'll probably be unstoppable, his regular ST will be comparable to Chou Shinra Tensei (conjecture, but definitely plausible).
 

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No, actually I realized that your argument is invalid. You've been comparing a base technique to a non-base technique this whole time. Again, just proves how powerful Naruto's Rasengan truly is.

1. Sasuke wouldn't have that left eye of his if he didn't have, and by extension was using, the Sage's chakra. He'd also be dead without the help of the Sage and Kabuto.
2. Sasuke has used Amaterasu only after Itachi implanted it. He never had Susanoo before Itachi's eyes were implanted either. Therefore, borrowed power that he couldn't originally use.
3. You're comparing oranges and apples. Sasuke's given power is different than Naruto's given power.


1- Sasuke has used amaterasu after Itachi implanted it? Did you expect him to use it before? without an MS? Besides the Amaterasu Itachi implanted into him was a one-time seal that would work only when Sasuke sees Obito's Sharingan as Itachi programmed it to. It was for that time only, that's why you can see Itachi's Mangekyu pattern in Sasuke's eyes. Sasuke awakened his own Amaterasu later in the KB's fight.

2-Sasuke used Susano'o before he implanted Itachi's eyes lol.


Ot: Neither was nerfed.
 

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Naw, it proves that you were wrong and don't have a damn clue what you're talking about, which you proved true in your second point below.


I guess you're illiterate, eh? "To be given power is one thing; to actually use that power on your own is another." I admit that Sasuke has been given a few powers, but, unlike Naruto, he uses them on his own. What part of that can't you understand? Please tell me so I can try to further help you understand how wrong you are.

Sasuke being saved by Kabuto (not the Sage, fool) is irrelevant.


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Yes, because Sasuke can actually use his given power on his own without the aid of an intelligent and conscious entity.

And you are proving that you don't know how to admit when you're wrong.

I repeat, you are comparing apples and oranges. If you can't figure out why then I'm not going to sit here and spell it out for you. There are others in here whom have already (or are currently) proving you wrong anyway.

I'll admit that I forgot about that moment. However, he had already killed Itachi so he still wouldn't have had Susanoo if that hadn't already happened.

(P.S. It is completely relevant since Sasuke wouldn't even be alive if it weren't for that help.)

1- Sasuke has used amaterasu after Itachi implanted it? Did you expect him to use it before? without an MS? Besides the Amaterasu Itachi implanted into him was a one-time seal that would work only when Sasuke sees Obito's Sharingan as Itachi programmed it to. It was for that time only, that's why you can see Itachi's Mangekyu pattern in Sasuke's eyes. Sasuke awakened his own Amaterasu later in the KB's fight.

2-Sasuke used Susano'o before he implanted Itachi's eyes lol.


Ot: Neither was nerfed.

1- I didn't. Vapid stated that Sasuke had used eye techniques before he had Itachi's eyes implanted. I was merely pointing out that he had, albeit involuntarily.

2- Yes, I have already admitted that mistake on my part. I'm human and can forget things just like everyone else.
 
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They prepared their chakra for him which he used himself. It's his skills to use their power that matters. Naruto still had to train to use KM plus got hands on experiences by making 12 clones that all fought on different battlefields; this left Naruto completely exhausted but he replenished his stamina when Kurama friended him. Naruto is repeating the benefits of suffering 16 years with Kurama. Sasuke got MS and pushed his MS powers to the limit in his fights to master its power, he didn't really do it to that extent with EMS and was pulling enhanced abilities out in the midst of battle. Both used training/experiences of past battles/training with their current powers.
Moot point. Is he doing so on his own now? No.

The Bijuus made chakra and Naruto use it in a way to allow him to face his foes who all have hax abilities. The Bijuus are t actually taking over Naruto's body and using their own power and jutsus. Naruto didn't use any jutsus we saw the Edo Jins use while using the Bijuus powers. Sasuke's EMS is Itachi and his MS powers combining and he said he can feel Itachi power in him. It gave Sasuke his sight back, power that's comparable to Bijuu, and increased allof his MS jutsus power and use of said power. One gets sight and use of his MS jutsus and the other is given chakra with abilities. Same thing when it all boils down to it
With biju assistance, you mean.
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Alright. And I agree, having for 30 minutes and doing things Nagato couldn't achieve in a lifetime is more than impressive. I don't even want to understand his Rinnegan abilities, say, 10 years from now. I disagree on the moot point part. And he'll probably be unstoppable, his regular ST will be comparable to Chou Shinra Tensei (conjecture, but definitely plausible).

I meant control of his eye where he could barely use Amaterasu. The control of his eye ten years from now? Will be obscene. Given his chakra power, his ST should be levels above Nagato's normal ST (Probably just on the edge of how powerful Nagato's CST was). I can't begin to imagine how powerful his Chou Shinra Tensei would be, especially if he used Susano'o to amplify it.
 

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And you are proving that you don't know how to admit when you're wrong.

I repeat, you are comparing apples and oranges. If you can't figure out why then I'm not going to sit here and spell it out for you. There are others in here whom have already (or are currently) proving you wrong anyway.

I'll admit that I forgot about that moment. However, he had already killed Itachi so he still wouldn't have had Susanoo if that hadn't already happened.

(P.S. It is completely relevant since Sasuke wouldn't even be alive if it weren't for that help.)

So u want Sasuke to use MS powers before awakaning MS
Cool Logic u have there :coffee:
 

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I miss this Vapid.

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