[Discussion] Naruto vs Sasuke (unbiased discussion)

[Arima]

A while ago I came accross this video and did not give it much attention, and today I stumbled upon it again and there is one thing that I'm not sure about. Starting from 1:02 Naruto and Sasuke start fighting and we can see that Sasuke has his Sharinghan on and that Naruto is NOT in sage mode, and if we consider that Sasuke will not use Susano and Naruto will not use Biju mode, can Naruto keep up with Sasuke? With Sharinghan you literally can read opponent's next move...
What do you guys think?

[video=youtube;R1Z31HToUOU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1Z31HToUOU&list=WL&index=7[/video]

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[Jcub]

Apparently he can, they are showing how Even things are as is. So yes Base Naruto rocks Base Sasuke, thus Sasuke needs at least sharingan up to keep up.

 

[BlazeRelease]

No, without sage mode or bijuu mode he can not keep up.

In the current fight he activated rikudo mode to block a basic close range katon.

 

[spade3dg]

Sasuke with his sharingan active is superior to base Naruto due to being able to read his moves.

Sm allows him to still hot even when missing. Also grants him more speed and power.
Bijuu chakra will allow him to destroy anyone he needs to if he wants too.

 

[ColdSummer]

Sage mode Naruto (toad sage, like what's shown in the video) vs. 3-tomoe or even MS Sasuke is the final fight I wish we could have seen. It makes me slightly sad that it can't happen anymore. Base Naruto would for sure be able to keep up with 3-tomoe Sharingan Sasuke though. I think it would be extremely even. Sharingan is great 1 vs 1. But Naruto always has clones available.

 

[take it easy]

Base Naruto>>>>>>>>>>>>>>No Sharingan Sauke. SM Naruto=>MS Sasuke.

 

[HashiraMadara SenjUchiha]

Naruto > sasuke period

 

[sn0wy]

I think this is skrwered. I believe naruto is in sage mode 247 now be kurama is collecting it all the time.

 

[JStar King]

Naruto will win by a Fairy Tail mixed with plot asspull.

 

[Frikid]

lol this unbiased discussion thread is not living up to its name.

You cannot expect anyone to be unbiased at this point, people have made a liking towards both of the characters and they will always support the one they like more.

i feel sasuke is the superior one.

 

[Mugiwara kun]

no way it's not going to be biased. Naruto has clones to be able to keep up with 3TS Sasuke. That's the point of clones in the first place,to create openings. But as for MS,he needs SM,simple

 

[Ultimateone]

No, without sage mode or bijuu mode he can not keep up.

In the current fight he activated rikudo mode to block a basic close range katon.

this is stupid. you realize he went RM because he had to to fight sasuke? why would he wait to his next attack when the next attack could be, i don't know , a teleporting chidori to naruto's blind spot? he didn't have to go RM for the fireball jutsu, he needed it to fight this battle. we have literally seen naruto disperse a fireball jutsu with a forming rasengan. stop trolling.

 

[Romy9]

You can feel whatever you like. They're equal in their progression throughout the entire manga. The Senju/Uzumaki line or the line of the brother with powerful body, i.e. Ashura, is always slightly stronger in the end. That's what unbiased means, because that's what manga says or implies. It's unlikely Sasuke will emerge superior if Naruto is to subdue him with his way.

 

[Cael]

You can feel whatever you like. They're equal in their progression throughout the entire manga. The Senju/Uzumaki line or the line of the brother with powerful body, i.e. Ashura, is always slightly stronger in the end. That's what unbiased means, because that's what manga says or implies. It's unlikely Sasuke will emerge superior if Naruto is to subdue him with his way.

I agree
Ashura won the war
then Hashirama defeated Madara at Vote
its probably going to end same way with naruto subduing sasuke.

 

[Flaming Amaterasu]

I agree
Ashura won the war
then Hashirama defeated Madara at Vote
its probably going to end same way with naruto subduing sasuke.

Wrong. Ashura and Indra killed each other, Indra lost the war of words, not much to gloat of lol. Hashirama did not defeat Madara, Madara outsmarted him and took his dna as he wanted.

Naruto will not defeat Sasuke. It will either end in a draw, or Sasuke will almost kill him again like he did the first time.

@op: This is impossible to be unbiased. Narutards will only use illogical arguments to try and derail Sasuke or any uchiha for that matter. It was a bad idea to make this thread to begin with, you can see how it's turned out thus far, with several naruto fanboys yapping stupidity off again, as they always do in threads concerning Sasuke.

 

[Cael]

Wrong. Ashura and Indra killed each other, Indra lost the war of words, not much to gloat of lol. Hashirama did not defeat Madara, Madara outsmarted him and took his dna as he wanted.

Naruto will not defeat Sasuke. It will either end in a draw, or Sasuke will almost kill him again like he did the first time.

@op: This is impossible to be unbiased. Narutards will only use illogical arguments to try and derail Sasuke or any uchiha for that matter. It was a bad idea to make this thread to begin with, you can see how it's turned out thus far, with several naruto fanboys yapping stupidity off again, as they always do in threads concerning Sasuke.

I am not being biased I am telling the truth
your being biased.
for example

1. where in the manga did it ever say that Ashura and Indra killed each other.
- The manga only stated that ashura won the war for Ninshuu [not a lie, here is a scan to prove what i say]

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2. and then you have hashirama who defeated madara. Madara was not being in anyways clever, the way he cheated death was clever but he was still defeated, here you have manga proof again

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I am giving you manga facts here dude I don't know what you want me to do? you want to me to call kishimoto and tell him to tell you himself what the manga itself said?

Because that's not within my powers.

And I said Probably in naruto vs sasuke. I don't know how it ending, but you seem to know how its going to end even thou the ending did not even come out yet.

"Naruto will not defeat Sasuke. It will either end in a draw, or Sasuke will almost kill him again like he did the first time."

you seem pretty certain lol

also, you keep saying that madara lost on purpose so that he can get hashirama DNA, LOL he could have still taken the dna from Hashirama corpse if he killed him, the dna is not just going to disappear.

I am not being biased, I always stick the manga facts and provide scans.

 

[Romy9]

I am not being biased I am telling the truth
your being biased.
for example

1. where in the manga did it ever say that Ashura and Indra killed each other.
- The manga only stated that ashura won the war for Ninshuu [not a lie, here is a scan to prove what i say]

Spoiler

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2. and then you have hashirama who defeated madara. Madara was not being in anyways clever, the way he cheated death was clever but he was still defeated, here you have manga proof again

Spoiler

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I am giving you manga facts here dude I don't know what you want me to do? you want to me to call kishimoto and tell him to tell you himself what the manga itself said?

Because that's not within my powers.

And I said Probably in naruto vs sasuke. I don't know how it ending, but you seem to know how its going to end even thou the ending did not even come out yet.

"Naruto will not defeat Sasuke. It will either end in a draw, or Sasuke will almost kill him again like he did the first time."

you seem pretty certain lol

also, you keep saying that madara lost on purpose so that he can get hashirama DNA, LOL he could have still taken the dna from Hashirama corpse if he killed him, the dna is not just going to disappear.

I am not being biased, I always stick the manga facts and provide scans.

You're arguing with a perfect example of the word "biased". I wouldn't continue.

 

[Cael]

You're arguing with a perfect example of the word "biased". I wouldn't continue.

Yes, I know lol. I was writing another comment towards him in another thread and I just completely gave up talking to him. I won't be replying to anymore of his comments from now on.

 

[Flaming Amaterasu]

I am not being biased I am telling the truth
your being biased.
for example

1. where in the manga did it ever say that Ashura and Indra killed each other.
- The manga only stated that ashura won the war for Ninshuu [not a lie, here is a scan to prove what i say]

Spoiler

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2. and then you have hashirama who defeated madara. Madara was not being in anyways clever, the way he cheated death was clever but he was still defeated, here you have manga proof again

Spoiler

You must be registered for see images

I am giving you manga facts here dude I don't know what you want me to do? you want to me to call kishimoto and tell him to tell you himself what the manga itself said?

Because that's not within my powers.

And I said Probably in naruto vs sasuke. I don't know how it ending, but you seem to know how its going to end even thou the ending did not even come out yet.

"Naruto will not defeat Sasuke. It will either end in a draw, or Sasuke will almost kill him again like he did the first time."

you seem pretty certain lol

also, you keep saying that madara lost on purpose so that he can get hashirama DNA, LOL he could have still taken the dna from Hashirama corpse if he killed him, the dna is not just going to disappear.

I am not being biased, I always stick the manga facts and provide scans.

For the record... I can also provide scans and so can everyone else here, but there isn't a need to provide scans of recent events because anyone with a decent amount of memory would recall said events. Now, with that said...

First off, Ashura won the war, then BZ tempted Indra to go after Ashura. We can only assume that it was their deaths after Indra got tempted after he "lost the war" to Ashura via the sage choosing him as his successor.

Second, Madara was in every way clever and superior to Hashirama. At the end of the day, Hashi was forced to try and backstab him to kill him, which didn't turn out so well, so your scan there is pointless, as Madara himself already explained what his goals were in that fight, and BZ elaborated on how Madara outsmarted Hashi. So gg, Madara > Hashi.

Naruto will not defeat Sasuke. It will either end in a draw, or Sasuke will almost kill him again like he did the first time.

you seem pretty certain lol

You mean as certain as you and the other naruto fanboys are of Naruto > Sasuke? Yes, that's correct. Naruto is not more powerful then Sasuke, so he cannot kill him. all thati s left is for naruto's defeat or a draw.

You're arguing with a perfect example of the word "biased". I wouldn't continue.

I'm sorry that the facts rustle your jimmies so much, but if you cannot accept them, get off this forum ^_^

 

[namikaze0323]

Uchiha fanboys need to unclog their rectal hole, seems like it's affecting their ability to distinguish fact from bias.

Madara lost the battle, he didn't almost die to get a small portion of DNA that he could have gotten if he won. Madara outsmarted Hashi in how he dealt with things after the loss. He outsmarted him even through a lost fight, that's why he lived on to do what was done here.

Sasuke and Naruto are equal. And due to plot we will see Naruto's drive for peace and their friendship, conquer Sasuke's drive to change the current system because sasuke isn't as sure in his plight as Naruto is. It's a fight of wills, and people seem to forget when Naruto fights it's always been like that, regardless of pure skill. I still think the six paths of pain are stronger than sage mode Naruto was, but Naruto was not messing around during that fight and ended up beating the more powerful opponent through sheer will and with some motivation from his father..

But anyone with a decent amount of memory could recall that.