Japanese Raw - Sasuke Isn't On Rikudou's Level | Confirmation

[RedBuLL]

Ok, congrats, on that part. However, in the end, it still doesn't mean Sasuke hasn't surpassed Madara. Allow me to explain.


1. According to TAKL's translation, Sasuke's rinnegan usage is on par with Hagoromo. At least this much is true (still will want to see viz)


2. Juubi Jin Madara is no different than a double rinnegan Madara who fused the bijus into the juubi, and used the juubi to give himself 6 paths senjutsu. Moon-seal Sasuke is a ninja who's likely to have the full power of the rinnegan, and a degree of 6 paths senjutsu. Current Sasuke is Moon-seal Sasuke, who has a full half and a piece of the other half, boosted by the same power that gave Madara his 6 paths senjutsu, except Sasuke had it to begin with. So, considering Moon-seal Sasuke>Double rinnegan Madara without the juubi, and they're boosted by the same power, Sasuke, by logic, is stronger than Double rinnnegan juubi jin Madara.


It really doesn't blot out Sasuke and Naruto being stronger.

Who is talking about Madara ?

But how ever Sasuke does not have anymore his Moon Tattoo

 

[Benjamin King]

Who is talking about Madara ?

But how ever Sasuke does not have anymore his Moon Tattoo

He brought assumption out his butt that the moon seal gives Sasuke access to Rinnegan's full power and degree of Rikudou Senjutsu. Anyway, I won't be going off topic.

 

[KCMNaruto]

Yeah I also believed that it was used in that context.

Thanks for confirmation OP and Takl of course.

Anyway even if by some luck Sasuke being on Old Man Hagoromo's level statement becomes true

Then Sasuke is Post Jin Hagoromo level approaching JJ Old Hagoromo(before extracting) by absorbing Tailed beasts chakra, but he still didn't absorb all of the chakra from Tailed beasts to reach JJ Old Hagoromo level.

JJ Prime Hagoromo level is beyond Sasuke or Naruto's imaginaton and sense of understanding

 

[Sennin of Logic]

Your post is invalid as the thread isn't about Sasuke vs Madara.

We're not even talking about madara.

But obviously considering all the other threads being made around the translation, anybody supporting Madara is gonna read this and think "Madara>Sasuke confirmed." I'm making it clear before the inevitable rolling of "Madara solos all" threads are started, that this scan alone is not the final solution.


However, yes, I think we can say Sasuke is very likely to be<Prime Hagoromo. I'm not arguing against that. However, here's an interesting line of thought. Could Sasuke be> Sun seal Hagoromo or Hagoromo without the juubi?

 

[RedBuLL]

What are you talking about? It's 2 Vs 1 - The Kyuubi is helping Naruto fight Sasuke.

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Naruto has a 1000 year old entity helping him out.Sasuke deosn't.Sasuke deosn't have a 1000 year old entity talking to him,Loading up chakra for him,or helping him in anyway.

It's Naruto and the Kyuubi Vs Sasuke.

You mean
Yin Kurama / Naruto vs. Shukaku/Matatabi/ Isobu/Son Goku/ Kokuō/Saiken/Chōmei /Gyūki/ Yang Kurama and Sasuke

 

[Sennin of Logic]

He brought assumption out his butt that the moon seal gives Sasuke access to Rinnegan's full power and degree of Rikudou Senjutsu. Anyway, I won't be going off topic.

No, it's manga facts. I can show evidence if necessary.

 

[Lana Del Taka]

takL eats long pickles....

 

[AlphaScythian]

Even if this statement was made solely to sasuke's skill, now with juubi chakra he gets to be on rikudou level all the same.

1 rinnegan madara was said to be close to sage in power, why cant sasuke be in same league now is beyond me.

 

[KCMNaruto]

But obviously considering all the other threads being made around the translation, anybody supporting Madara is gonna read this and think "Madara>Sasuke confirmed." I'm making it clear before the inevitable rolling of "Madara solos all" threads are started, that this scan alone is not the final solution.


However, yes, I think we can say Sasuke is very likely to be<Prime Hagoromo. I'm not arguing against that. However, here's an interesting line of thought. Could Sasuke be> Sun seal Hagoromo or Hagoromo without the juubi?

@ bold part, yes he is:

Anyway even if by some luck Sasuke being on Old Man Hagoromo's level statement becomes true

Then Sasuke(and by the way Naruto too) is Post Jin Hagoromo level approaching JJ Old Hagoromo(before extracting) by absorbing Tailed beasts chakra(in Naruto's case by absorbing gargantugan amount of nature energy), but he still didn't absorb all of the chakra from Tailed beasts(Naruto most likely too) to reach JJ Old Hagoromo level, but he can(so can Naruto)

JJ Prime Hagoromo level is beyond Sasuke or Naruto's imaginaton and sense of understanding

 

[Sennin of Logic]

Even if this statement was made solely to sasuke's skill, now with juubi chakra he gets to be on rikudou level all the same.

1 rinnegan madara was said to be close to sage in power, why cant sasuke be in same league now is beyond me.

Correction, unless someone brings in a viz saying otherwise, what was said was that Madara was "trying to come close," showing he was never there with 1 rinnegan.

 

[Benjamin King]

Even if this statement was made solely to sasuke's skill, now with juubi chakra he gets to be on rikudou level all the same.

1 rinnegan madara was said to be close to sage in power, why cant sasuke be in same league now is beyond me.

Madara had Rikudou Senjutsu. Sasuke doesn't.

But obviously considering all the other threads being made around the translation, anybody supporting Madara is gonna read this and think "Madara>Sasuke confirmed." I'm making it clear before the inevitable rolling of "Madara solos all" threads are started, that this scan alone is not the final solution.


However, yes, I think we can say Sasuke is very likely to be<Prime Hagoromo. I'm not arguing against that. However, here's an interesting line of thought. Could Sasuke be> Sun seal Hagoromo or Hagoromo without the juubi?

What ever ''making it clear'' is your opinion, it came from mouth, it's invalid to me and the manga.

 

[Murasame]

I don't care what that NF clown said.

Kishi said that Sasuke = Hagoromo, and Kishi > all of you scrubs.

Ok its starting to get a little old that you're pretending/experimenting on being either a Naruto/Sasuke wanker. Didn't you already come up with the results that you don't see what's good about wanking either one? Or are you really riding Sasuke and even Naruto at the same time?... lmao Lol

ot: Well if this is true then Sasuke fanboys wont be able to abuse it anymore.

 

[King Of Pop]

ill wait for the viz thank you..

 

[RedBuLL]

Even if this statement was made solely to sasuke's skill, now with juubi chakra he gets to be on rikudou level all the same.

1 rinnegan madara was said to be close to sage in power, why cant sasuke be in same league now is beyond me.

Cuz Sasuke does not have the Bijuu Chakra in his body neither is he a Jinchuriki.
He just fused the Chakra in his Susanoo wich became stronger nothing more

 

[Dannie]

TakL wanks Naruto in NF, ain't trusting him for translations involving Sasuke

Yeah, just look at his avatar.

 

[Benjamin King]

Sausgay gayboys can't handle facts. Face it, he'll get fodderstomped by Naruto despite the power (not close to Madara or Hagoromo) he gained.

Deal with it. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[RedBuLL]

Correction, unless someone brings in a viz saying otherwise, what was said was that Madara was "trying to come close," showing he was never there with 1 rinnegan.

And in the same line he mentioned Kaguya wich is stronger as Hagoromo and compared her with Madz.
And yes he was talking about 1 Rinnegan Madara hkw should he talk about a other form when it didn't even exist at that time?

 

[Dantee]

Ill go with manga panda translation.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

@ bold part, yes he is:

Anyway even if by some luck Sasuke being on Old Man Hagoromo's level statement becomes true

Then Sasuke(and by the way Naruto too) is Post Jin Hagoromo level approaching JJ Old Hagoromo(before extracting) by absorbing Tailed beasts chakra(in Naruto's case by absorbing gargantugan amount of nature energy), but he still didn't absorb all of the chakra from Tailed beasts(Naruto most likely too) to reach JJ Old Hagoromo level, but he can(so can Naruto)

JJ Prime Hagoromo level is beyond Sasuke or Naruto's imaginaton and sense of understanding

It's still a ridiculously impressive feat. For Sasuke's usage of using the rinnegan's power to be on the same level of Hagoromo at any time is an incredible to his power, and to Naruto, who, until Sasuke absorbed the bijus, was stronger.


However, the second statement is false as Kaguya was stronger, and they certainly comprehended her.

 

[Styles]

You mean
Yin Kurama / Naruto vs. Shukaku/Matatabi/ Isobu/Son Goku/ Kokuō/Saiken/Chōmei /Gyūki/ Yang Kurama and Sasuke

But Naruto have some of their chakra too.