Top 8 tier that fits perfectly

[KidGamer65]

What about Indra and Ashura? Surely they'd be above Gai.

ot: No, it was a nice attempt but the list is incorrect.

Yup, but I didn't include them..lol, don't know why. I'd probably put them in Tier 4 above Gai.

 

[Holy God]

The same way countless others have done it. Chakra is strength buddy when we are talking about people like Juubi Jinchuuriki. Kaguya lost chakra, got weaker, then got blitzed by Naruto. She gained chakra, and she was stated to be on another level.

Naruto and Sasuke gained half of Hagoromo's chakra, became two of the strongest in NV.

Nothing implies Madara>Kaguya. Not feats, not hype or portrayal. I'm waiting for you to come up with an actual case besides "She's dumb"

Well, by feats, Madara obviously wins. Kaguya has only shown bone-related techniques, chakra-manipulation, and teleportation. Madara can perform the last two, and has a plentiful, wide array of other techniques. Not to mention that appearently Kaguya can't even perform the six paths' techniques. Where's your actual case besides "more chakra"?

 

[Djokovic]

Sasuke knew Madara's strength, yet didn't believe someone as strong as Kaguya could exist. What does that tell you? That Kaguya>Madara.

Again, he was comparing chakra levels, nothing new added here.

Sasuke said her chakra was on another level than Madara's.

Sigh, yes we get it, actualy all Madara fans get this fact, please proceed.

Her feats shit on his feats.

Her feats are Madara's feats including a brain. Madara has the same eye, the sooner you accept this the better. He has naturally awakened the eye, just like Kaguya did.
I have valid reasons to believe Madara is superior as she didnt show any signs of intelligence without BZ

On Rikudo's Level=Above Madara. That simple. Madara actually has to be able to pull of IT first, something he can't and won't do.

Say wut? 3 eyed Madara cant pull of IT?
Enjoy your last days as a Troll.

 

[KidGamer65]

Well, by feats, Madara obviously wins. Kaguya has only shown bone-related techniques, chakra-manipulation, and teleportation. Madara can perform the last two, and has a plentiful, wide array of other techniques. Not to mention that appearently Kaguya can't even perform the six paths' techniques. Where's your actual case besides "more chakra"?

When I have panels of Madara using Kaguya's jutsu, then we can talk about that.

-Faster than Madara. Madara got blitzed by Sasuke's S/T twice, and on foot once. Kaguya reacted to his S/T and evaded him.

-Has more physical power than Madara due to chakra arms, as shown where she busted Susanoo open with 5 Chakra Fists. Her chakra fists alone are stronger than pretty much all of Madara's jutsu.

-All Killing Ash Bones tear through any defense he has as they ripped through Kakashi's Susanoo, and they aren't made of chakra so he can't absorb them, nor can he dodge them when she uses them in combination with her S/T portals.

Kaguya takes a giant shit on Madara. She doesn't need the Six Paths Jutsu when her S/T, Chakra Fists, and her Bones are better than any of the Six Path's Techniques. She enters the Ice Dimension, freezes him and then finishes him with a Bone. If he breaks out (Probably will) she retreats into a portal, uses Nature to attack Madara, pins him and then kills him with a bone. If he enters CQC, she rapes him with Chakra Fists that smashed Susanoo, and bones that ripped through and disintegrated it.

Madara gets raped buddy. You're going to have to deal with it.

 

[KidGamer65]

Again, he was comparing chakra levels, nothing new added here.

He compared chakra altogether. That includes strength. Chakra is strength for Jinchuuriki anyway,.

Her feats are Madara's feats including a brain. Madara has the same eye, the sooner you accept this the better. He has naturally awakened the eye, just like Kaguya did.
I have valid reasons to believe Madara is superior as she didnt show any signs of intelligence without BZ

Same eye is irrelevant. Not all Rinnegan use the same exact abilities. Do we give Hagoromo Limbo and Sasuke's S/T? Do we give Sasuke Madara's Limbo? No we don't. When you can prove that Madara can perform Kaguya's techniques, especially when she has a shitload of chakra compared to him

Not to mention same eye only accounts for her teleportation. She still has all Killing ash bones, her chakra fists, and all of her speed feats to herself. You have no reason besides intelligence, which isn't a way to determine strength.

Say wut? 3 eyed Madara cant pull of IT?
Enjoy your last days as a Troll.

Before current Naruto stops him? Nope. You replying with this isn't an argument.

 

[Djokovic]

He compared chakra altogether. That includes strength. Chakra is strength for Jinchuuriki anyway,.





Same eye is irrelevant. Not all Rinnegan use the same exact abilities. Do we give Hagoromo Limbo and Sasuke's S/T? Do we give Sasuke Madara's Limbo? No we don't. When you can prove that Madara can perform Kaguya's techniques, especially when she has a shitload of chakra compared to him

Not to mention same eye only accounts for her teleportation. She still has all Killing ash bones, her chakra fists, and all of her speed feats to herself. You have no reason besides intelligence, which isn't a way to determine strength.





Before current Naruto stops him? Nope. You replying with this isn't an argument.

Limbo is not confirmed Rinnegan technique. Also Madara has proven in the past once he got the ingriedents he can perform any jutsu only a fanboy, a troll, an illiterate, or a moron would believe otherwise.

Kamui, IT, Different mokuton techniques are all instantly performed by Madara, not to mention adaption to Sage mode.

Before current Naruto stops him? Nope. You replying with this isn't an argument.

So Madara who was up against Sasuke, Naruto, Sakura managed to cast IT without much difficulty, and you are saying Naruto alone could solo/prevent this?
WHat the hell happened to you Kidgamer?

Anyway Im done for today. As I said enjoy your last days as a troll.

 

[BlazeRelease]

I'm a girl, and having his jock down his throat 24/7 is okay. You on the other hand are gay for riding sasky and all of his fanboys. Sorry bruh, try again next time.​

You are complete trash, your logic sucks, your homophobic, schizophrenic, and a general smart ass.

Do us all a favor and log off.
Permanently.

 

[KidGamer65]

Limbo is not confirmed Rinnegan technique.

-Madara gets Rinnegan back.
-Says he'll fight with Rinnegan's power.
-Limbo can only be seen with Rinnegan.
-Limbo is cast from his Rinnegan.

Yet you say Limbo isn't a confirmed Rinnegna Jutsu. Lol, log out.

Also Madara has proven in the past once he got the ingriedents he can perform any jutsu only a fanboy, a troll, an illiterate, or a moron would believe otherwise.

Are these scans? Oh wait, they aren't. Just shitty false equivalences.

Kamui, IT, Different mokuton techniques are all instantly performed by Madara, not to mention adaption to Sage mode.

Wow, you couldn't even provide me a shred of evidence for your claim, yet I'm the troll? Lol. Madara fapkids never cease to amaze me.

So Madara who was up against Sasuke, Naruto, Sakura managed to cast IT without much difficulty, and you are saying Naruto alone could solo/prevent this?
WHat the hell happened to you Kidgamer?

1. Don't mention Sakura.
2. Naruto didn't do

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. Easily accounts for not having Sasuke to help him stop Madara.

Anyway Im done for today. As I said enjoy your last days as a troll.

You can keep crying about me being a troll. Doesn't change the fact that manga panels disagree with you.

 

[BlazeRelease]

Madara isn't even rikudo level, I never saw kurama freaking out about final madaras power.

With that said, he's undoubtedly below kaguya; dimenional shift and leave gg

 

[Holy God]

When I have panels of Madara using Kaguya's jutsu, then we can talk about that.

-Faster than Madara. Madara got blitzed by Sasuke's S/T twice, and on foot once. Kaguya reacted to his S/T and evaded him.

-Has more physical power than Madara due to chakra arms, as shown where she busted Susanoo open with 5 Chakra Fists. Her chakra fists alone are stronger than pretty much all of Madara's jutsu.

-All Killing Ash Bones tear through any defense he has as they ripped through Kakashi's Susanoo, and they aren't made of chakra so he can't absorb them, nor can he dodge them when she uses them in combination with her S/T portals.

Kaguya takes a giant shit on Madara. She doesn't need the Six Paths Jutsu when her S/T, Chakra Fists, and her Bones are better than any of the Six Path's Techniques. She enters the Ice Dimension, freezes him and then finishes him with a Bone. If he breaks out (Probably will) she retreats into a portal, uses Nature to attack Madara, pins him and then kills him with a bone. If he enters CQC, she rapes him with Chakra Fists that smashed Susanoo, and bones that ripped through and disintegrated it.

Madara gets raped buddy. You're going to have to deal with it.

It's the same eye as Kaguya's. This is literal, just like the basic sharingan. Each has the same ability. She can't even see Limbo, which is a great feature. There is no evidence either to prove if she's faster or not. Just because she has a better reaction speed, doesn't mean she is faster. Madara can create chakra arms as well, just like the weaker Obito could have, along with the Truth-Seeking Balls. Tears through anything? I don't believe we've seen it tear through nin-jutsu, and it's process is slow as well. With the sharingan, rinnegan, and all beasts, Madara has the potential to copy most techniques, such as the ash-bone and nature manipulation. Can't see Kaguya winning.

 

[BlazeRelease]

It's the same eye as Kaguya's. This is literal, just like the basic sharingan. Each has the same ability. She can't even see Limbo, which is a great feature. There is no evidence either to prove if she's faster or not. Just because she has a better reaction speed, doesn't mean she is faster. Madara can create chakra arms as well, just like the weaker Obito could have, along with the Truth-Seeking Balls. Tears through anything? I don't believe we've seen it tear through nin-jutsu, and it's process is slow as well. With the sharingan, rinnegan, and all beasts, Madara has the potential to copy most techniques, such as the ash-bone and nature manipulation. Can't see Kaguya winning.

So your saying since they have the same eye, madara can use her techniques?

Ok well that applies vice versa as well, so they are the same, except she's also got byakugan plus more chakra so you defeated your own argument.

 

[Djokovic]

-Madara gets Rinnegan back.
-Says he'll fight with Rinnegan's power.
-Limbo can only be seen with Rinnegan.
-Limbo is cast from his Rinnegan.

Yet you say Limbo isn't a confirmed Rinnegna Jutsu. Lol, log out.


Are these scans? Oh wait, they aren't. Just shitty false equivalences.



Wow, you couldn't even provide me a shred of evidence for your claim, yet I'm the troll? Lol. Madara fapkids never cease to amaze me.



1. Don't mention Sakura.
2. Naruto didn't do

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You can keep crying about me being a troll. Doesn't change the fact that manga panels disagree with you.

-Madara gets Rinnegan back.
-Says he'll fight with Rinnegan's power.
-Limbo can only be seen with Rinnegan.
-Limbo is cast from his Rinnegan.

Yet you say Limbo isn't a confirmed Rinnegna Jutsu. Lol, log out.

- Says he will fight with Rinnegan - checked not true, nothing he said was related to Rinnegan.
- Limbo can only be seen with Rinnegan - Madara was the only one who could see the difference between Hashi clones. Does it make his technique? Naruto can feel the presence of Limbo clones, I guess Naruto has partially obtained limbo somehow by your logic.
- Limbo is cast from his Rinnegan - So is Susano and many other techniques...

Now please log out.

Are these scans? Oh wait, they aren't. Just shitty false equivalences.

Do you need scans when Madara performs Kamui, Mokuton IT and other techniques? Its called logic. Madara has the same eye as Kaguya naturaly awakened.

1. Don't mention Sakura.
2. Naruto didn't do

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. Easily accounts for not having Sasuke to help him stop Madara.

1. Dont mention Sakura? The one who romplstomped Kaguya?
2. I dont understand what you are trying to say here, BUT the fact is Madara comfortably casted IT while having those 3 as opposition. You are stating Naruto could solo Madara before casting IT.

Im truly disapoitned and the irony when you call Madara fans retards.

 

[KidGamer65]

It's the same eye as Kaguya's. This is literal, just like the basic sharingan. Each has the same ability

Madara and Sasuke's eyes don't have the same ability.

Sasuke and Kaguya's eyes don't have the same ability.

Hagoromo doesn't get Madara and Sasuke's Limbo and S/T Ninjutsu.

Wrong buddy. Get me panels of him using her jutsu, or anything that states he can and then I'll concede this point.

She can't even see Limbo, which is a great feature.

She has the Rinnegan, which lets you see Limbo. Lol.

There is no evidence either to prove if she's faster or not. Just because she has a better reaction speed, doesn't mean she is faster.

That is exactly what it means. Sasuke attacked Madara with S/T and tagged him, Kaguya was attacked and she FLEW OUT OF THE WAY. The one who dodged is the faster one. That simple.

Madara can create chakra arms as well, just like the weaker Obito could have, along with the Truth-Seeking Balls.

Juubi Chakra Arms got slapped away by Yin and Yang Kurama Avatars. Kaguya's smashed PS open. No comparison. Kaguya's Gudo Dama is also much stronger than the ones on Madara's back, so there is no comparison there either. Not to mention Gai was smashing shields made from them, Kaguya manhandles it.

Tears through anything? I don't believe we've seen it tear through nin-jutsu, and it's process is slow as well.

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Susanoo is Ninjutsu.

With the sharingan, rinnegan, and all beasts, Madara has the potential to copy most techniques, such as the ash-bone and nature manipulation. Can't see Kaguya winning.

Kaguya has the Rinnegan, has the power of the Sharingan and she has all 9 Bijuu + chakra that she got from the fruit. And lol, Sharingan can't copy KKG unless you have that KKG already. Madara doesn't have Kaguya's bone KKG so he can't copy it. Nature Manipulation can't be copied either as it uses no hand signs. Same with the bone KKG.

 

[KidGamer65]

- Says he will fight with Rinnegan - checked not true, nothing he said was related to Rinnegan

Read the manga instead of fapping to Madara and you would have seen it.

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-Limbo can only be seen with Rinnegan - Madara was the only one who could see the difference between Hashi clones. Does it make his technique? Naruto can feel the presence of Limbo clones, I guess Naruto has partially obtained limbo somehow by your logic.

The fact that only Rinnegan can see it means its related to the Rinnegan in someway. The fact that it can only be sensed and hurt with Rikudo Senjutsu is proof that its related to Rikudo somehow, which it is. Its a Rinnegan technique, Rinnegan is Hagoromo's power.

- Limbo is cast from his Rinnegan - So is Susano and many other techniques...

Susanoo is an EMS power. Rinnegan lets you access EMS powers. Sorry buddy. Limbo has been used from the Rinnegan and that's it.

Now please log out.

Please stop wanking to Madara first.

Do you need scans when Madara performs Kamui, Mokuton IT and other techniques? Its called logic. Madara has the same eye as Kaguya naturaly awakened.

I already explained why same eye=/=same jutsu.

1. Dont mention Sakura? The one who romplstomped Kaguya?

Not in this manga.

2. I dont understand what you are trying to say here, BUT the fact is Madara comfortably casted IT while having those 3 as opposition. You are stating Naruto could solo Madara before casting IT.

The point is, Naruto could have stopped him alone. As he can make clones that can all nuke CT, and he can use an Avatar much stronger than what he's used before, which can nuke the CT as well. That is the point. The point is, Madara isn't getting away when Naruto has 3 clones nuking CT while the original engages him.

Im truly disapoitned and the irony when you call Madara fans retards.

Lol, you guys are retarded as shit.

 

[Holy God]

Madara and Sasuke's eyes don't have the same ability.

Sasuke and Kaguya's eyes don't have the same ability.

Hagoromo doesn't get Madara and Sasuke's Limbo and S/T Ninjutsu.

Wrong buddy. Get me panels of him using her jutsu, or anything that states he can and then I'll concede this point.


She has the Rinnegan, which lets you see Limbo. Lol.





That is exactly what it means. Sasuke attacked Madara with S/T and tagged him, Kaguya was attacked and she FLEW OUT OF THE WAY. The one who dodged is the faster one. That simple.


Juubi Chakra Arms got slapped away by Yin and Yang Kurama Avatars. Kaguya's smashed PS open. No comparison. Kaguya's Gudo Dama is also much stronger than the ones on Madara's back, so there is no comparison there either. Not to mention Gai was smashing shields made from them, Kaguya manhandles it.

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Susanoo is Ninjutsu.





Kaguya has the Rinnegan, has the power of the Sharingan and she has all 9 Bijuu + chakra that she got from the fruit. And lol, Sharingan can't copy KKG unless you have that KKG already. Madara doesn't have Kaguya's bone KKG so he can't copy it. Nature Manipulation can't be copied either as it uses no hand signs. Same with the bone KKG.

Can't show you a panel of it working, because Madara was so strong he had to be taken out before he could roflstomp. The third eye doesn't open up due to special chakra in the brain(emotional status that gives unique abilities). It awakens due to having the tailed-beasts power and looking directly at the moon "closely". She only can see Limbo depending on if her third eye is a rinnegan or sharingan. Didn't Hagoromo refer to it as a sharingan, or at least having it's power, and it being red(unlike Sasuke's), therefore it being a sharingan? You also refer to Kaguya being faster, yet I don't remember Madara being blitzed by anyone in his strongest form, it was untouched, as he rained meteors from the sky. They're the same chakra, Kaguya just has more. That automatically makes Madara's as strong as Kaguya's. Not to forget that we haven't even seen Obito's go against a perfect susano'o, or Naruto try to push her's away(so no comparison there). Her orb was quite large and of course, more powerful, but it is a large waste of chakra, and has no feats except for creating a new dimension with it. Sharingan can't copy kekkai-genkai, but since both of them had the same chakra from the beasts, then they both should be able to use the same, just like how Madara gained access to his Sage Lightning KKG. Kaguya wasn't just born with every KKG. She got it from the Holy Tree.

 

[Ultimateone]

Tier 1

Kaguya

Tier 2

Hagoromo
Naruto
Sasuke
Madara

Tier 3
Hamura

Tier 4

Gai
Kakashi

Now its perfect.

i have to agree pretty much with this list.

 

[Transcendence]

Tier 1

Kaguya

Tier 2

Hagoromo
Naruto
Sasuke
Madara

Tier 3
Hamura

Tier 4

Gai
Kakashi

Now its perfect.

Best list on here by far.