[Discussion] Sabo vs Magellan

[VongolaX]

The overrating of Magellan is just ridiculous.

Luffy in second gear pre timeskip put Magellan on his knees, and couldn't beat Luffy physically.

He had to rely on the later effects of his poison to put luffy out.

Someone like Sabo would murder Magellan, just by putting Haki on his pipe and beat the tar out of him.

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

The overrating of Magellan is just ridiculous.

Luffy in second gear pre timeskip put Magellan on his knees, and couldn't beat Luffy physically.

He had to rely on the later effects of his poison to put luffy out.

Someone like Sabo would murder Magellan, just by putting Haki on his pipe and beat the tar out of him.

Dumbass or maybe that's just how the poison guy fights he ate poison fruit for God sakes -.- if I had tht fruit that's how i would fight 2... Also how many times did luffy needed to be brought back to life against him ..???

 

[shon93]

Sabo is way too much for Magllan I'm taking him mid diff....Magellan is not Fujitora.....just a guy who's DF exploits hand to hand fighters

 

[Apêx1]

Sabo low-mid diff's both scenario's.

 

[A v i]

It didn't melt off Vista's sword either... CoA doesn't negate the effect of the DF completely. It's like saying you can use CoA to negate the effect of Aokiji's ice from freezing you, it doesn't make sense.

Vista can use Haki and How do u think Joker escaped from Aokiji's Ice?

It doesn't work like that. Magellan uses poison. Haki doesn't counter things like that. Its not like Haki will make Kizaru's lasers just bounce off you either like you're Superman. Haki allows you to resist things like Law's DF because if you have strong Haki, Law can't bypass it unless his Haki is on the same level or superior. Haki doesn't just blindly counter every offensive DF.

It depends on the type of DF but Haki definitely negates/resists the effect of DF in one way or another. Technically Rayleighs sword should get destroyed or should pass through Kizaru's laser sword but nothing happened to the sword. I mean it helps u to resist the effect of DF in a way or another.

 

[shon93]

Vista can use Haki and How do u think Joker escaped from Aokiji's Ice?





It depends on the type of DF but Haki definitely negates/resists the effect of DF in one way or another. Technically Rayleighs sword should get destroyed or should pass through Kizaru's laser sword but nothing happened to the sword. I mean it helps u to resist the effect of DF in a way or another.

Kizarus light sword is a solid bro..

 

[Bogard]

Vista can use Haki and How do u think Joker escaped from Aokiji's Ice?

With his physical strength i think. Haki can't negate DFs

 

[A v i]

With his physical strength i think. Haki can't negate DFs

If it is a matter of PS then Jozu would have escaped it with no dif.

What I am sure about is that Haki helps u to resist the effect of DF and the way it works against the DF would change from DF to DF.

Like for example: It is not possible for hurting Luffy without bypassing or negating his DF ability.

Kizarus light sword is a solid bro..

Since when does? Light/laser can be Solid?


In this particular case Magellan can send Venom via air so we can't say that Sabo can completely escape from magellan with the help of haki.

 

[Bogard]

If it is a matter of PS then Jozu would have escaped it with no dif.

What I am sure about is that Haki helps u to resist the effect of DF and the way it works against the DF would change from DF to DF.

Like for example: It is not possible for hurting Luffy without bypassing or negating his DF ability.

Kuzan used a stronger attack on Jozu. Not to mention Doflamingo's heart wasn't frozen which is the reason why he could break out beforehand. Otherwise he would have been finished right there

Haki helps to block devil fruit abilities, not nullifying them. Considering his body was frozen, he couldn't have nullified the ice. Physical strength(maybe boosted with armament haki) was his only way out in my opinion

 

[A v i]

Kuzan used a stronger attack on Jozu. Not to mention Doflamingo's heart wasn't frozen which is the reason why he could break out beforehand. Otherwise he would have been finished right there

No one except Joker and Aokiji knows if his heart was frozen or not.

Haki helps to block devil fruit abilities, not nullifying them. Considering his body was frozen, he couldn't have nullified the ice. Physical strength(maybe boosted with armament haki) was his only way out in my opinion

This logic won't explain why haki can bypass Luffy's ability.

 

[Zorø]

Sabo would wreck him U_U

 

[Bogard]

No one except Joker and Aokiji knows if his heart was frozen or not.



This logic won't explain why haki can bypass Luffy's ability.

Oda made sure to give us this information(about Doflamingo's heart not being frozen) through Bufallo's words

It bypass Luffy's ability because haki helps to touch the real body of devil fruit users. Doesn't mean however that it nullifies their powers

 

[-Akuma-]

Sabo prison rapes, un-restrict Magellan he still gets prison raped.

 

[A v i]

Oda made sure to give us this information(about Doflamingo's heart not being frozen) through Bufallo's words

It bypass Luffy's ability because haki helps to touch the real body of devil fruit users. Doesn't mean however that it nullifies their powers

The very fact that u can touch original body when his body is totally made up of rubber proves that it can bypass his powers.

Oda made sure to give us this information(about Doflamingo's heart not being frozen) through Bufallo's words

Please, what kind of reason is this? They have no idea about what happend inside Joker.

 

[Bogard]

The very fact that u can touch original body when his body is totally made up of rubber proves that it can bypass his powers.

Yes it can bypass with force, but doesn't nullify the devil fruit power at all

Please, what kind of reason is this? They have no idea about what happend inside Joker.

You can analyse someone's heart's bit through observation like Tsunade did with Orochimaru the first time they met to try to heal him. For all we know, Bufallo can do that. The fact remain he said that, and he said that for a reason. Likely he noticed something before/when he came out and gave the readers the information his heart wasn't frozen

 

[A v i]

Yes it can bypass with force, but doesn't nullify the devil fruit power at all

You can't touch him without nullifying his rubber characteristic. I mean it is not like his body is covered with rubber to say that haki just bypassed it to touch his original body. His body is totally made up of rubber so it should nullify the effect in that particular area to be able to touch him.


As I said the way it bypasses the DF effect differs from DF to DF and I guess we are almost on the same boat with a lil difference. It is either u are not grasping my point clearly or may be I am unable to realize what u are trying to tell me.

You can analyse someone's heart's bit through observation like Tsunade did with Orochimaru the first time they met to try to heal him. For all we know, Bufallo can do that. The fact remain he said that, and he said that for a reason. Likely he noticed something before/when he came out and gave the readers the information his heart wasn't frozen

He said that because Joker escaped safely,it has nothing to do with his observation and he's too stupid to even display such an ability.