[Discussion] Jozu vs Law

[miino]

DD isnt Admiral level...he is Shichibukai level
Marco is Admiral level and Sabo is close to it

so u put Marco over Doffy!!! and even lil Sabo
dude it is obvious that Doffy , Mihawk and u might add Kuma are admiral level

 

[Zorø]

Jozu would rape Law Whitebeard's crew mates are constantly getting underestimated U_U.

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

Depending on jozu Haki level by hype jozu should mid diff him ..... By feats law can mid-semi high diff him

 

[My Username]

so u put Marco over Doffy!!! and even lil Sabo
dude it is obvious that Doffy , Mihawk and u might add Kuma are admiral level

Marco negs Doffy brutha

 

[Love Cook]

He cut a Marine ship, the bottom of which is coated in Kairoseki. And you really think Law can cut a material as hard as diamond with his sword alone, what Mihawk couldn't do?

Yes he did only used his sword, not his ability, go check the panel. Also his ability shouldn't work because it's seastone. It's unlikely that all marineships have kairoseki coating because it's a rare material, so Smoker's G-5 reject ship might not even have that. Why would he have a ship that's able to cross the calm belt.

And you're going on a limb that Law can cut diamond in his room, a material Mihawk didn't cut. Also Vista probably has solid CoA to back him up.

 

[SSS12]

I'd give it to Jozu.

 

[bajram]

Jozu negs.

 

[Red Swag]

i might have to go with jozu. i believe hes faster than law. and once he gets near em its game over. law is one of the softest dudes out there, he wont be able to tank jozus attacks.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Yes he did only used his sword, not his ability, go check the panel. Also his ability shouldn't work because it's seastone. It's unlikely that all marineships have kairoseki coating because it's a rare material, so Smoker's G-5 reject ship might not even have that. Why would he have a ship that's able to cross the calm belt.

And you're going on a limb that Law can cut diamond in his room, a material Mihawk didn't cut. Also Vista probably has solid CoA to back him up.

You're merely assuming the G-5's ship doesn't have Kairoseki lining them. Not only is that not an established fact, but there is no evidence to support it.

Law's powers were clearly active.
Teleporting his sword to himself[

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Switching Smoker and Tashigi back.[

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Not only that, but we've seen DF powers affecting Seastone, such as Mr. 3's powers unlocking Seastone cuffs. Not only that, but it's an established fact that Kairoseki releases the exact same energy as the sea. Law's power affected part of the sea G-5's ship was in, meaning if water couldn't negate his powers, neither can Seastone since it emits the same energy.


When has the manga ever hinted to the hardness of a substance playing an effect in Law's ability to cut it? Nothing suggests that diamond's strength/hardness offers any kind of resistance to Law's powers.

Kairoseki is equal in strength to diamond. You do realize you just said ¨Law cut Kairoseki with his normal swordplay, which just as hard as diamond, but Law can't cut diamond with his ability to cut anything because Mihawk couldn't cut diamond with his normal swordplay, despite having stronger swordplay than Law."

If Law cut Kairoseki with his normal swordplay, it means, not using his power, Law is a better swordsman than Mihawk, as Mihawk failed to cut a substance just as hard as Kairoseki with his normal swordplay.

 

[Love Cook]

You're merely assuming the G-5's ship doesn't have Kairoseki lining them. Not only is that not an established fact, but there is no evidence to support it.

Law's powers were clearly active.
Teleporting his sword to himself[

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Switching Smoker and Tashigi back.[

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Not only that, but we've seen DF powers affecting Seastone, such as Mr. 3's powers unlocking Seastone cuffs. Not only that, but it's an established fact that Kairoseki releases the exact same energy as the sea. Law's power affected part of the sea G-5's ship was in, meaning if water couldn't negate his powers, neither can Seastone since it emits the same energy.


When has the manga ever hinted to the hardness of a substance playing an effect in Law's ability to cut it? Nothing suggests that diamond's strength/hardness offers any kind of resistance to Law's powers.

Kairoseki is equal in strength to diamond. You do realize you just said ¨Law cut Kairoseki with his normal swordplay, which just as hard as diamond, but Law can't cut diamond with his ability to cut anything because Mihawk couldn't cut diamond with his normal swordplay, despite having stronger swordplay than Law."

If Law cut Kairoseki with his normal swordplay, it means, not using his power, Law is a better swordsman than Mihawk, as Mihawk failed to cut a substance just as hard as Kairoseki with his normal swordplay.

Yes, and you are merely assuming that the ship does have it.

Nice panels, as you can see he cut it with his sword, not with his ability. Press your own link.

Manga never hinted that there is an effect, but it never said there wasn't either. A diamond man with good haki will probably be harder to cut than a jelly man.

Just because Mihawk doesn't showed a feat doesn't make Law better than him. Besides Law doesn't qualify as a real swordsman. His sword is a tool his fruit is his power.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Yes, and you are merely assuming that the ship does have it.

Nice panels, as you can see he cut it with his sword, not with his ability. Press your own link.

Manga never hinted that there is an effect, but it never said there wasn't either. A diamond man with good haki will probably be harder to cut than a jelly man.

Just because Mihawk doesn't showed a feat doesn't make Law better than him. Besides Law doesn't qualify as a real swordsman. His sword is a tool his fruit is his power.

No more of an assumption than saying Zoro's last name is Roronoa. The manga states Marine battleships have Kairoseki lining the bottom, without establishing any exceptions. The ship has Kairoseki on it, manga confirmed.

The same way he cut Vergo, it's just his power in close range. [

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]Teleporting his sword requires his power to be active, proving it was.

Then it cannot be applied. Facts, not guesses, that's what matters.

Mihawk failed to cut diamond with a slash meant for the World's Strongest Man and to measure how much stronger Whitebeard was than him. If Law cuts a substance of equivalent strength, it makes him a better swordsman.

He's still a swordsman. Are Shanks, Rayleigh, and Zoro not swordsmen because ¨swords are their tools, but Busoshoku Haki are their powers?¨ If Law's ability is used through a sword, then he's a swordsman.

 

[~Kami no Itachi~]

Law utterly stomps

 

[A v i]

Law utterly stomps

Not in the world of One Piece.

 

[miino]

Marco negs Doffy brutha

dude the only thing marco has is his unique DF and some haki
in the other hand Doffy masterd all kinds of Haki and an excillent DF user
Mingo made Jozu his puppet and I believe the gap between Jozu and Marco is not that huge
so Mingo > WB pirates

 

[Souji]

Law doesn't actually really 'cut' things, he just uses his sword in conjunction with his DF to make the separations faster.

 

[Bogard]

Mihawk failed to cut diamond with a slash meant for the World's Strongest Man and to measure how much stronger Whitebeard was than him. If Law cuts a substance of equivalent strength, it makes him a better swordsman.

At first i thought you were joking but are you really serious now? Ridiculous conclusions

 

[Aømine]

Gotta love the people that have no damn clue in here and talking how weak WB's crew are. lmao

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

dude the only thing marco has is his unique DF and some haki
in the other hand Doffy masterd all kinds of Haki and an excillent DF user
Mingo made Jozu his puppet and I believe the gap between Jozu and Marco is not that huge
so Mingo > WB pirates

Greatest fanfic of the month right here.

 

[~Kami no Itachi~]

Mingo > Marco and Jozu

manga fact

Marco is but a play toy for DD

I don't want to mention Fodder Vista

 

[Punk Hazard]

At first i thought you were joking but are you really serious now? Ridiculous conclusions

No I am not, and no they are not. Am I wrong? Did Mihawk not fail to cut a substance equal in strength to Kairoseki? If Law can cut it, that makes him a stronger swordsman than Mihawk. Would you call someone who can't even cut steel on Zoro's level? Would you call someone who can't cut stone on the level of any swordsman who can cut steel?

Better may not have been the right word to use, Mihawk can still have more skill, but it would mean that Law is stronger with his sword than him, and we know that's not true.