Sasuke doesn't pocesses Senjutsu!!!

[ANiMUS]

[Size=+3]Sasuke'll never surpass Madara![/size]

Juubi Jin Madara no, Rinnegan Madara yes.

Naruto still is a jinjuriki he has the dark half of kurama inside him. The original kurama he had that madara took is inside chibak tensi that sasuke created.

I said juubi Jinchuuriki though. Naruto is the jinchuuriki of the kyuubi

 

[VongolaX]

Lel no.
You Think a normal Obito could handle the Juubi?
Hashirama cells made him properly handle the juubi thus become it's jinchuriki.

Also Naruto and Madara staffs is as a result of Hagoromo chakra.

Madara got the yin staff because of Hagoromo chakra. He got this when he became the juubi jinchuriki.

And Naruto also got his staff when Hagoromo himself gave him half his power.
QED!

Did you read the link I gave you?

It explains what Rikuodou senjustu is and how to get it.

Madara already said that Obito used Sennin mode once when he was pulling the bijuus out of Madara.

 

[chuloe]

[Size=+3]Sasuke'll never surpass Madara![/size]

Yes he will. He can also become the 10 tails jin because he now has hashirama cells. He can also do I.T just like madz and he can reincarnate himself because that's a rinn tech and oh look he has that to. And his rinn is way stronger that an average rinn. He can deff surpass madz

 

[Ansatsuken]

Madz had ashuras chakra too when he stole it from hashirama allowing him to awaken the rinnegan same as sasuke he got hashirama cells from kabuto.

That mean they both is gaining hagoromo full chakra and can awaken a rinnegan

for the limit, half of hago chakra for elder son is focusing more to eyes power, but the limit for older son and his descendants only at MS level and not a rinnegan.

unless older son and his descendants having younger son chakra in their body is the way for them to gain rinnegan.

 

[Glad Of War]

This thread doesn't make complete sense. Senjutsu is needed to hurt perfect Juubi jins.

Considering u're a Sasuke FB I'm not surprise you don't comprehend this thread.

 

[VongolaX]

1. That is what allowed him to do it yes, that and rinnegan
2. But, Naruto isn't the Juubi jinchuuriki, but he has TSB, and Sasuke has Hagoromo chakra, but he doesn't have TSB .

Madara even said that Obito obtained SM. IMO the reason Obito had the sun staff and Madara had the moon is probably related to the Rinnengan they possessed when they had their staffs

I thought Obito got the sun staff because half of his body is covered in Ashura's chakra (Hashirama tissue)?

 

[DHOH]

Who cares?? Sasuke has the sage chakra, whether its sensitive or not is irrelevant. What he has makes his jutsu stronger and can hurt jyuubi jins.. Call it what you want but that's the only thing that matters..

 

[ANiMUS]

I thought Obito got the sun staff because half of his body is covered in Ashura's chakra (Hashirama tissue)?

Nah, the amount shouldn't make a difference. If it wasn't connected to the rinnegan Naruto would have a sun staff as well.

 

[Sharingan King]

Considering u're a Sasuke FB I'm not surprise you don't comprehend this thread.

Assuming that you are right, it would mean that a normal chidori (non-rikuddu) pushed back a senjutsu boosted, rikudu boosted, 9 bijuu boosted TBB.

You said that Sasuke doesn't possess senjutsu and that his chidori is only black when rikudu chakra is used. Either way it works out well for Sasuke.

If Sasuke only uses Rikudu chakra when his chidori is black then how did he slash a Perfect Juubi jin in half? He must have some form of senjutsu. U_U

 

[Glad Of War]

Did you read the link I gave you?

It explains what Rikuodou senjustu is and how to get it.

Madara already said that Obito used Sennin mode once when he was pulling the bijuus out of Madara.

The Six Paths Sage Technique is an empowered
state, similar to Sage Mode, which drastically
empowers all of the user's abilities to a far
greater extent by either having the Ten-Tails's
chakra or combining the Six Paths Sage Chakra
of all nine tail beast.

That's what the Link says.
Meaning the six path sage technique is an empowerd state similar to sage mode..
It's similar to Sage mode but it's not sage mode!

 

[Glad Of War]

Assuming that you are right, it would mean that a normal chidori (non-rikuddu) pushed back a senjutsu boosted, rikudu boosted, 9 bijuu boosted TBB.

You said that Sasuke doesn't possess senjutsu and that his chidori is only black when rikudu chakra is used. Either way it works out well for Sasuke.

If Sasuke only uses Rikudu chakra when his chidori is black then how did he slash a Perfect Juubi jin in half? He must have some form of senjutsu. U_U

First of all the Chidori that push Naruto's TBB was an Enhance perfect susanoo Chidori.

Secondly Sasuke was able to cut Madara in half coz he used an enhance chidori with Hagoromo chakra!

 

[ANiMUS]

The Six Paths Sage Technique is an empowered
state, similar to Sage Mode, which drastically
empowers all of the user's abilities to a far
greater extent by either having the Ten-Tails's
chakra or combining the Six Paths Sage Chakra
of all nine tail beast.

That's what the Link says.

Meaning the six path sage technique is an empowerd state similar to sage mode..
It's similar to Sage mode but it's not sage mode!

Viz calls it Sage Mode though. Can't argue with the manga translators just to prove a point. SM is SM

 

[Ansatsuken]

Other thing to note is that hagoromo is different from both his sons. Yes, in the flashback Hagoromo state to naruto and sasuke that madara combining ashura and indra chakra to gain a rinnegan but not full set of hagoromo power, it just a rinnegan. That mean indra descendant like madara getting a rinnegan and also can be said hagoromo body, but not sanjutsu power. Just only hagoromo body that the younger son inherit.


Sanjutsu is different matter altogather, as sage mode it is not inheritance base power but learning base power, if sage mode is inheritance base power sure naruto will have it from birth, but we knew that minato also having sage mode before his dead. But in the story nruto learn it from jiraiya. And other requirment for sage mode learning is having strong body, who is possesing strong body, yes that is younger son.


If we assume rinnegan supplying sage mode or sanjutsu, why madara need to stole hashirama senjutsu if inside his body having both ashura and indra chakra, that mean those chakra just given you rinnegan and hagoromo body but not hagoromo sanjutsu power.

madara when possesing juubi is a time he posses sanjutsu power like TSB as example.

that is mean right now sasuke is only possesing rinnegan and hago body but not hago sanjutsu

 

[Glad Of War]

Viz calls it Sage Mode though. Can't argue with the manga translators just to prove a point. SM is SM

Lel error maybe?

 

[Glad Of War]

Other thing to note is that hagoromo is different from both his sons. Yes, in the flashback Hagoromo state to naruto and sasuke that madara combining ashura and indra chakra to gain a rinnegan but not full set of hagoromo power, it just a rinnegan. That mean indra descendant like madara getting a rinnegan and alsomcan be said hagoromo body, but not sanjutsu power. Just only hagoromo body that the younger son inherit.


Sanjutsu is different matter altogather, as sage mode it is not inheritance base power but learning base power, if sage mode is inheritance base power sure naruto will have it from birth, but we knew that minato also having sage mode before his dead. But in the story nruto learn it from jiraiya. And other requirment for sage mode learning is having strong body, who is possesing strong body, yes that is younger son.


If we assume rinnegan supplying sage mode or sanjutsu, why madara need to stole hashirama senjutsu if inside his body having both ashura and indra chakra, that mean thos chakra just given you rinnegan and hagoromo body but not hagoromo sanjutsu power.

madara when possesing juubi is a time he posses sanjutsu power like TSB as example.

that is mean right now sasuke is only possesing rinnegan and hago body but not hago sanjutsu

Pretty much correct!

 

[ANiMUS]

Lel error maybe?

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Sennin Mode=Sage Mode

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Sage Mode

The only proof of Naruto having RSM are the TSB and that same power Madara and Obito (who was said to use Sage mode) both have.

Rikudou chakra=senjutsu chakra, but higher grade

 

[-immortal-]

But rikoudo chakra = is somewhat SM

 

[Xāvî1]

Sasuke doesn't always add Rikudu chakra to his attacks. The following manga panel confirms that:

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Above we see Sasuke saying that he would use the six paths chakra too. This means that he can choose whether or not he wants to add Rikudu chakra to his attacks. As you correctly mentioned, Kakashi's chidori was black when he used Rikudu chakra.

Similarly, with Sasuke, his Chidori is only black when he uses Rikudu's chakra. Therefore, this would imply that he slashed Madara in half with a chidori sword not containing Rikudu chakra (since it wasn't black). We also know that only senjutsu can harm perfect juubi jins. Hence, Sasuke must have used senjutsu or else he wouldn't have been able to hurt Madara.

You're wrong on few points, ninjutsu also can harm juubi jins but senjutsu chakra can penetrate a juubi jins defence which ninjutsu chakra can't!!

 

[Ansatsuken]

But rikoudo chakra = is somewhat SM

Rikudou chakra is rikudou or hagoromo own chakra, just because its name look unique or deep in meaning that mean it
must be very special chakra, actually it just same as hashi or madara normal chakra or other shinobi chakra. But in body of the first generation chakra user, it raw power and essence is different than normal chakra of today.

sanjutsu is natural energy, the energy that revolve on naruto planet and the energy that used by shinju.

It must be gain by learning not inherit it. Naruto can sense limbo but cant see it because of sage mode/sanjutsu. While sasuke can see a limbo but could not sense it because of rinnegan not sanjutsu. Rikudou power is both rinnegan and his body but naruto upgrade hago body from younger son he have by learning sage mode.

it like a bon to naruto to have stronger body and sage mode because when he recieve hago chakra it will enhance his body further in sage or natural energy realm not that hago chakra give naruto sanjutsu because naruto is already having sanjutsu but hago own body chakra plus naruto body.


Why hago is seeing with TSB all the time, because he is on sanjutsu mode not natural mode same like hasi to sm hashi but no TSB. But sm hashi can use godly power compared to normal hashi. TSB, buddha, myojinmun is all godly power using all natural energy that abundence through out naruto planet.

natural energy make up a large chunck of energy that exist in Naruto world including human energy.

 

[ANiMUS]

Rikudou chakra is rikudou or hagoromo own chakra, just because its name look unique or deep in meaning that mean it n
must be very special chakra, actually it just same as hashi or madara normal chakra or other shinobi chakra.

sanjutsu is natural energy, the energy that revolve on naruto planet and the energy that used by shinju.

It must be gain by learning not inherit it. Naruto can sense limbo but cant see it because of sage mode/sanjutsu. While sasuke can see a limbo but could not sense it because of rinnegan not sanjutsu. Rikudou power is both rinnegan and his body but naruto upgrade hago body from younger son he have by learning sage mode.

it like a bon to naruto to have stronger body and sage mode because when he recieve hago chakra it will enhance his body further in sage or natural energy realm not that hago chakra give naruto sanjutsu because naruto is already having sanjutsu but hago own body chakra plus naruto body.


Why hago is seeing with TSB all the time, because he is on sanjutsu mode not natural mode same like hasi to sm hashi but no TSB. But sm hashi can use godly power compared to normal hashi. TSB, buddha, myojinmun is all godly power using all natural energy that abundence through out naruto planet.

natural energy make up a large chunck of energy that exist in Naruto world including human energy.

Hagoromo born with the chakra of the Juubi already within his body. Juubi is composed of Nature Energy. Hagoromo has RSM as well so of course the chakra that he dishes out will be senjutsu.