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You do realize thats a bad thing, right?
How will he react to Luffys speed attacks then?
[Discussion] Luffy vs law
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How will he react to Luffys speed attacks then?
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Nothing indicates Luffy is faster than Vergo, or vice versa.
Law has also reacted to and countered Doflamingo's fastest seen move, and Luffy is currently being outpaced by Doflamingo while Law is matching strikes with him.
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You seriously think Law can't react to Luffy?
How about Luffy reacting to Law's teleportation?
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Luffy needed Law's ability to be able to strike Doflamingo because his gear second wasn't able to surprise him.
That means that the speed of Law's teleportation is greater than Luffy's G2 and that Law is able to react within time to replace Luffy in such a situation and to swap him or himself out with another object.
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Yo bro, check the scan I posted above. Luffy is surprised by Law's teleportation...not that Law needs to use teleportation to win this match
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The plan was to attack Doflamingo off-guard. If Gear 2 was better, Luffy could have just charged at Doflamingo. The fact that Law, who's very tactical, opted to go with teleporting and not simply blitzing him, and the fact that Doffy fell for it but is now keeping pace with Gear 2 Luffy is why Shambles>Gear 2.
Because the PX was never reported damage, all was said is that they ran away. duh
So there is no worse condition if the outcome of the match had no victor, but a forfeit.
You call it contradiction but I know it's misunderstanding, you can't grasp the concept of simple English.
Easy, it was not reported destrroyed..
They ran away or was sent flying away by Kuma.
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@ Bolded already proved my point
one crew was fatigued from fighting one PX, the other TWO team was fatigued or ran from fighting ONE PX.
Baseless, no PX was mentioned being destroyed.
keep all fan fics aside
Three Laws would get raped, speed and physical power is futile.
Old dying Whitebeard nearly got sniped from crocodile, half his face burned by Akainu, and a second hole in his chest.
You can't make such comparison when Whitbeard was at his old age dying, he was handicap since the start of the match.
My comparison is Stawhats did better than Hearts and kidd Pirates...
You're sh*t is whitebeard pirates vs The whole navy, Warlords, and a leverage hostage Ace.
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Stop right there....
"So WE'LL BE TAKING OUR LEAVE, BARTHOLOMEW KUMA."
Team Strawhat was reported to damaged a PX, Heart and Kidd did not.
Therefore you have no proof, but the results are staked on my favor.
No reported damaged PX and the two pirates were said to have ran away. GG
Bold: That's exactly what I'm saying
Now you can apply that same Logic when Kidd and the heart pirates were involved, if they were as strong as Luffy they would be taking out two PX which they didn't because they ran away from one.
Kidd and Law had aid from their crew against one PX, just like Luffy had aid with his crew against one.
It's sad that Luffy came out with better results
That's why Law needs luffy, its completely relevant...
Your just being a stubborn fool
I already mentioned the group of people, please f*cking read why dont ya?
If you switch Law in Luffy's position, Law wouldn't of made it back up with Jinbei, crocodile, and etc.
Luffy canonily conquered four levels of hell before Magellan arrival (which law would of been one-shotted by then)
I already mentioned that Garp was standing still (read the f*cking reply properly), the point was that his physical strength sent him hurtling towards the opposite side.
If Law was to ever punch Garp standing still, he wouldn't even move an inch.
Don't you ever compare luffy's stamina to Law's, Luffy just broke in and out of thee impel down and went straight to war.
Law fights one battle with Vergo post timeskip and he's already dying of staminia.
Luffy blocked sengoku's punch which indicated that there was haki because rubberman aren't suppose to bleed, Law would not do the same he doesn't have a physical enough feat to take Vergo's punch let alone sengoku.
Law can't KO a giant in one hit, he can't tank a sengoku's haki punch, he can't wipe out a platoon, survive Mihawk, and survive blows from kizaru and Akoji.
All the Supernova's were in Sabaody, so this is nothing impressive than running for his dear life.
The least you can do is spell "elementary," right you illiterate dunce.
Keep lashing at me with words, it just only makes me look smarter.
Yet they teamed up together with the straw hats to beat up all those navy fodders.
Dumb@ss
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Since Chopper was part of the group that defeated a Pacifista and Law can't, Chopper>Law then.
Brook>Law
Usopp>Law
****ing moron.
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And there's the flaw I was pointing out all along. Thanks for proving me right, kid. Luffy, like Chopper and Brook, also doesn't make up for the entire crew. The logic doesn't apply for them, and it doesn't apply for Luffy either. There goes your pitiful argument.
Oh, by the way, you should find a different gif to represent how this all went down. i don't wear red button-ups.
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By the way genius, I didn't make that post in your sig, you did. YOU spelt elementary as elemntry.
Didn't read?
Are Nami, Chopper, Usopp and Robin also not part of the group that defeated a PX when Law coudn't defeat a PX on his own?
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Are you dense? Just answer the question, are Chopper, Brook, Nami and Usopp not members of the group that defeated the Pacifista?
Chopper, nami and brook aren't significantly powerful to make a difference is the main point. The M3 did most of the work and in that zoro was severely already weakened. So luffy and sanji were the key players and zoro too even though he was weaker. On the other hand u have killer, kid, law all of whom are supernovas with their crew in good condition had a difficult time taking out a pacifista. It's clear as day who was portrayed to be stronger pre TS which is what varia was trying to tell u as well.
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That's not at all what he was saying. He admitted a few posts ago what he was saying. I asked if the fact that Luffy was part of the group that destroys a Pacifista means that Luffy is stronger, and he said that's exactly what he's saying.
By his logic, Usopp>Law, Nami>Law, Brook>Law and Chopper>Law.
The M3's attacks hardly phased the PX, while it was Usopp, Nami and Robin who damaged its insides and that's what led to it being destroyed by Luffy's G3 fist. EVERY Strawhat put in work. You cannot apply an accomplishment of just a group to a part of the group. This retard is basically giving Luffy the feat of destroying the Pacifista because he was part of the group that did it, I suppose that sick doctor and his even sicker horse>Whitebeard since they're part of the crew that killed him.
It is true that they helped but zoro cut him sanji gave a good blow and luffy gave the biggest firepower hit so they did the most. Yes usopp and chopper helped similar to how the panda bear and the big guy(forgot names) helped and Kidd and killer and his crewmates and yet they didn't fully take it down if my memory serves right. So they even the odds to chopper nami etc. luffy never won it alone but did better than kidd and law that is fact. It is so easily portrayed here. Your last point makes no sense elaborate further but I doubt it has any significance.
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1. The bold is exactly the point. Luffy did not do it on his own, so he can't say "That makes him stronger than Law." What the entire crew did cannot be applied to any one person.
2. You have NO idea how well Law and Kidd did against the Pacifista. There is no fact because how well Kidd and Law did against a Pacifista was NEVER shown.
3. The last part of my post is highly significant. Varia is saying that the Strawhat crew defeated a Pacifista, while Law on his own is unable to do so. He is saying that JUST BECAUSE Luffy's group AS A WHOLE, TOGETHER, did something Law on his own cannot do, that makes Luffy better than Law. That would be like saying because the sick doctor and the sick horse are part of the group that killed Whitebeard, the doctor and horse are better than Whitebeard. Akainu failed to kill Whitebeard, while Teach's crew managed to do so. Does that mean any one person from Teach's crew is better than Akainu? Varia's logic would make the answer yes, but we know that's not true, so his logic is faulty. The last part of my post applies his logic to the same scenario with different people, and it can't work there, so it doesn't work period.
In fact I do know how they struggled with him. And did not beat him fully that is a fact.
To the other point no one stated luffy won it alone and I don't think he said it either from what I read from his posts. Like I said they had similar support law even had it better two crews together vs one pacifista where it was sh vs one pacifista. Unless ur saying killer, bepo Kidd and that fire breathing guy are complete fodders. It evens the playing field and yet luffy did better. That is all it's that simple. Second point don't bring whitebeard he took on Kuzan, kizaru, and akainu then the Blackbeard finished him off with his crew. Not at all the same scenario here. Completely unrelated.