First you said I ¨must not have seen the fight¨, implying that there was fight between the Pacifista and Heart and Kidd Pirates that showed them struggling far more than the Strawhats, hence why they're below them. Now, you're saying it's not about the fight, but the end result. You've contradicted yourself. That's strike one.
Also, you're looking for an end result, when we weren't presented with one. We didn't see whether or not Law and Kidd defeated the Pacifista. Them:
1. Getting thrashed and running away
2. Defeating the Pacifista with mid difficulty
3. Defeating the Pacifista with high dff
4. Defeating it with low diff
5. Not fighting at all and just running
all have equal support in the manga: None. We don't know which one of these is true, and which are false. Meaning, you cannót use the Heart/Kidd Pirates vs Pacifista fight as a frame of reference due to the fact that we have no details on how the fight went, at all. Strike two.
Yes, you must of not seen the fight and neither did I.
I never argued about that so there is no contradiction there, however proof of the end results can determine which group had a greater struggle than the others.
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Straw Hats had enough energy to fend themselves off when they were making a break for it, that is until Kizaru ruined it for them.
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And if Kizaru is using the term "escape," for the kidd pirates and Heart fighting together then hat means two things:
A) The obvious, both crews intended to hit and run
B) The PX wasn't destroyed, so they didn't defeat the PX like the strawhats did because they simply couldn't.
Kizaru would of noted that you destroyed the PX upon arrival at the marineford.
Your logic is that if Group A did better than or exhibited better strength as a whole than Group B, then an individual from Group A must be better than an individual from Group B. Your logic is that because the Strawhat Pirates defeated a PAcifista on their own, and because you're guessing(by the way, that's strike 3) that the Heart Pirates, even with the Kidd Pirates, did worse, that Luffy must be better than Law. That is what your logic says, no way around it, that's what it is. My Whitebeard/Akainu analogy was not pitiful, but spot on. Akainu's group won the war of Marineford, but he'd still lose to someone from Group B, Whitebeard. We saw Whitebeard defeat Akainu once his illnesses had ceased to impact his body for the time being when he thrashed Akainu out of rage of him killing Ace. Strike 4.
There are more ways of pointing out why you're logic is flawed.
If three luffy's fought a PX-4, then you better guarantee a victory with better results than the monster trio.
There are three supernova's that are suppose to be on luffy or around his level against (in your case higher), if they weren't able to destroy a PX-4 or 7 than what does that say for themselves?
Your stupid whitebeard vs akainu example is futile as ever.
It wasn't just whitebeard vs the marines, their where notable Shichibakui's that aided them in their battle too.
You can't say whitebeard did this and that, his condition was a factor and even in his thrash he still didn't permantely kill Akainu because he was injured, weakened, and ill.
"Can an ill Law beat Luffy?" Hell no....
"What about vice versa?" The answer is still no...
Too many factors and leverage on the Marine's side that it was just pointless to bring that up.
The question isn't Strawhats vs Law, but Luffy vs Law. You're reasoning is that because Law needed help from the Kidd Pirates to defeat a Pacifista, but the Strawhats defeated the Pacifista all on their own, that as a member of the Strawhats, there is a clear gap between Law and Luffy.
Wouldn't of teamed up if they could, just putting it out there
Reason #1 why this logic is ass: You say that Law needed the help of the Kidd Pirates. But, it's also a fact that Luffy needed help from the rest of his crew. We already know that Luffy on his own, like Law, can't destroy a Pacifista on his own at that time. However, how can Luffy>Law because Law can't take down a Pacifista on his own and needed help from a crew, when Luffy also can't take down a Pacifista and needed help from his crew? Strike 5
It was luffy's gear three that shattered the PX-4, but excluding that Luffy would severly damage if not break PX-4 if he used full power (Gear 2 and Gear3) which he didn't.
Law on the other hand failed to break PX-7 (i think its 7) on his own, nor can he and his crew destroy PX-7 on their own. Another powerful pirate was their to help them escape instead of destroying the PX like the straw hats.
Reason #2 why this logic is ass: Does that mean that because Chopper, Nami, Brook or Usopp was part of the Strawhats, the gap between them and Law is there, with it being in there favor? After all, being part of the group that defeated the Pacifista is your ¨proof¨ of Luffy>Law, it has to apply to the other members as well. I guess Usopp, Nami, Brook and Chopper also defeat Law in a fight. Strike 6
Unless chopper, nami, robin, brook, or Ussop are stronger than Law's crew and Kidd's cre combined.
Stop talking...
Reason #3 why this logic is ass: This happened pre-skip. We're talking about current Law vs Luffy. Because pre-skip Law needed help from Kidd's crew, and pre-skip Luffy needed help from his crew, post-skip Luffy>post-skip Law? I doubt you even comprehend why this makes no sense. Strike 7.
Luffy needed help from his crew and Law and his crew needed help from kidd and his crew.
(At least get that part right)
Post timeskip luffy trained with the dark king, what did Law do all post timeskip?
Nothing significant to put him on Luffy's level that's for sure.
This is a very stupid analogy, you're way to simple to correctly analyze the serious of events.
Luffy just broke down impel down and fought a bunch of high level ranked people in the war, Law would of died shorty of depleted stamina.
His physical strength is good enough to KO a giant, drive through a platoon of marine men with little to know break, block sengoku's punch, and put out his grandfather while standing still.
If your telling me Law can accomplish any of those feats, you're more dense then I thought.
And then, to top it all off, you're saying that Law and Kidd didn't escape the Pacifista, because Kuma showed up to fight the Strawhats? Let's ignore the fact that Law and Kidd weren't arrested. Let's ignore the fact that we actually saw them at Sabaody after the incident brought Kizaru and the Marines around and while Marineford was going on. Let's ignore the fact that Law was able to freely make his way to Marineford with his entire crew and his ship. How, in any sense of the English language and all that isn't asinine, does the fact that Kuma showed up to fight the Strawhats mean that Law and Kidd didn't escape the Pacifista? Strike 8
He sent them in a different location like evryone else, or just avoided them like he did in thriller park.
/Logic
8 strikes, 8 major flaws that all render your argument, quite simply, ass. Please, think before you post next time.
Edit: Actually, there's even another ninth strike I forgot to type due to the overwhelming amount of flaws present.
You think so highly of yourself when you look like a complete retard, this is just simply sad reading something that came from the ground of a elementary school parking lot.
You said my statement that Law and Kidd probably didn't cooperate is baseless. No it's not. It's based on this page
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Kidd and Law have friction. Kidd enjoys provoking Law by telling him what to do, and Law hates being ordered around. The two just don't get along at all. That's what makes them so unlikely to be able to attack in a coordinated fashion. Even while about to confront Kuma in the page above, Kidd tells Law he's in the way and Law threatens to kill Kidd. Simply fighting one opponent at once, or fighting a group at once isn't cooperating and coordinating attacks, they're fighting the same opponent at the same time, but separately.
Yes, three arrogant pirates talk trash in the mist of fodders, but when push comes to shove all of a sudden the guy who wants to kill the other ends up teaming with him to survive.
A scan that proves nothing but pride..
This is probably one of the easiest post I ever countered.
You're to weak to be this boastful....
