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Hey I'm new here but theres some things I need some insight on.

First off since the Biiju was taken out of Garra does that mean he's not as powerful as before???

Also theres all there predictions about Obito/Madara/Danzou..... Madara is not Obito that much I know. but Danzou and his eye patch or whatever you want to call it troubles me. Is there a possibility that there IS a sharingan behind that eye??? or is it something bigger than that. I have had a hunch that he's hiding the Rinnegan behind that eye and I believe that I have seen him open his eye before and the Rinnegan is activated on command I believe. Danzou/Pein??? I dont know it just seems that Madara is out to get Danzou and Pein doesnt seem to like Madara. I dont kow its just a thought. But Danzou is hiding something.

Naruto will surpass Jiraiya because of the Shadow clone technique and how quickly he learns. I do believe the fifth will fall and Kakashi will take her place with Naruto to follow. depending on how long this Manga is going to last there would have to be another time skip, because Naruto is much too young to take on that much responsibility.

And there is no way that Akatsuki is goingto be able to remove the Biiju from Naruto the story is based on him having the Demon Fox within in him. So after all this fighting and the Akatsuki r all killed off who will become the NEW Bad Guys/Enemies??? gues we will have to wait and see. thanks for your timeand I hope to post again! :)
 

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First off since the Biiju was taken out of Garra does that mean he's not as powerful as before???

Also theres all there predictions about Obito/Madara/Danzou..... Madara is not Obito that much I know. but Danzou and his eye patch or whatever you want to call it troubles me. Is there a possibility that there IS a sharingan behind that eye??? or is it something bigger than that. I have had a hunch that he's hiding the Rinnegan behind that eye and I believe that I have seen him open his eye before and the Rinnegan is activated on command I believe. Danzou/Pein??? I dont know it just seems that Madara is out to get Danzou and Pein doesnt seem to like Madara. I dont kow its just a thought. But Danzou is hiding something.

Naruto will surpass Jiraiya because of the Shadow clone technique and how quickly he learns. I do believe the fifth will fall and Kakashi will take her place with Naruto to follow. depending on how long this Manga is going to last there would have to be another time skip, because Naruto is much too young to take on that much responsibility.

And there is no way that Akatsuki is goingto be able to remove the Biiju from Naruto the story is based on him having the Demon Fox within in him. So after all this fighting and the Akatsuki r all killed off who will become the NEW Bad Guys/Enemies??? gues we will have to wait and see. thanks for your timeand I hope to post again! :)
Exactly what iwas thinking
 

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first of all gara after his fight with naruto decided that his not going to use his jinchuuriki powers any more,he didnt even used them in his fight with deiadara,so i dont think this would be a big disadvantage for him,maybe he can even get some sleep now.
as for danzo being madara or pein i dont think thats possible because tsunade has him watched constantly,and unless he knows some high distance teleportation jutsu i dont see the way this theory could stand.
but then again if he is madara he already knows that kind of jutsu,and maybe this is some kind of his plan to first infiltrate in enemy orders and then attack (this is based on theory that madara is mizukage).
 

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Don't underestimate Pein!

We some some of his skills. Mostly summoning jitsus and those freaky weapons.
He has the rinnegan, so i believe he has some kind of sick genjitsu or some other dojitsu.

I also wonder who madara really is. Maybe it is the muzikage who got his hands on madara's power somehow. When Madara showed his face to Kisame, Kisame said:"I am glad you're pulling the strings, Muzikage-sama, I mean Madara-san". This could mean that Kisame is supposed to call him Madara, while he is actually the Mizukage. Madara is covering his face so people can't see his left eye. It would be great if his left eye turns to be a yellow snake's eye.
 

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Buddy that's really awesome INSIGHT!!!!


BUT! I think youre giving him (pein) way to much credit. Dude Jman was one person, thats why Peins vision was at an advantage. 6 kohona shinobi Vs Peins 6 bodies his vision would'nt really work because all pein would see is 6 shinobi's attacking him at once... (disasvantage one mind vs 6 minds thinking differently) Is this correct???

Peins blind spot only works when its more then two (pein) vs one.

And yes Kakashi, Gai, Sakura, and Sai one on one would own pein... I dont see pein doing much against these dude really. Where they would have only one jutsu to use, compared to kohonas shinobis... ??????

The 4 attacking, are you referring to Shippuden? if so dude, each one can control over 3 elements each, one that owns all 5 that (chick tring to kiss Naruto)... They are rasing the dead Zombie Army to keep Konoha's Military busy not WHIPPED as you claim...
Plus 4 legendry swords dudes that have a death wish. They only have the upper hand for now... I think these 4 would even give pein a run for his money....

Didnt pein take over the Rain Village when it was at its weakest point?


How gave the three sainin, Their title as Sainin? of whom pein defeated?



Sorry the statment I made "Sasuke development was much more advance then Narutos"
was not directed to your statment even thou thats what it looks like!!!


If Tobi or kismane tag along then it will be a way different story...

YES I cant wait for all the action to take place!!

Please advise on the points I fully lost on!!!!

I don't know. While you have a point on it would be more people versus Pain instead of just one, thereby making his vision less effective there's still a lot we don't know about Pain. We still don't know the full power of his eyes or what they even really do. Then with Konan with him tihngs look even more one sided. No one, (probobly not even Tsunade) are on the same level as J-man. And come on Sakura would probobly just serve as a medic, she's not a top notch fighter. So we'll have to wait and see but I think the leaf is in trouble.
 

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well we all know that he will never give up and i hope he wins you know what will be suprising madara pen and sasuke to awlays be together naruto dies konoha disaoierce and those 3 destroy the planet lol:D
 

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As much as I think that konoha and Tsunade would die in real life I dont think they will fall. I think that konoha will lse a lot of ninja but naruto will show up at the last minute to save Tsunade and most of the village.
 

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Naruto future jutsu

Hey all,

Just thought I'd drop in some thoughts I had. First, I believe Naruto will learn the following jutsu's while training with the toad sages. I would expect that his ability to control what he summons to be refined. This will refer to Gamakichi, Bunta, and nameless toads, etc. Along these lines he should be able to add to his arsenal the ability to summon the toad stomach from which nothing can break through so far except for Ameratsu. This is a great defense for him as I don't know if Ameratsu can burn through the Kyuubi's chakra cloak. I believe he will also learn hermit mode, though I don't think it will be called that. The reason being that the primary strength of hermit mode is to summon the Ma and Pa toads on each shoulder. If he can control his summoning ability/accuracy, these should be within his reach. There is likely to be a novel jutsu/s he learns from his training. Having the ability to consistently summon the toad of choice requires chakra control, something Naruto is weak at. Perhaps controlling his chakra is the first step to controlling the Kyuubi.

Part of his training may include controlling the Kyuubi. The toads still haven't given Naruto the key Jiraiya left behind for him. They may explain its purpose, how to use it, and the dangers. I believe that this is the jutsu that the 4th could not complete. Or there is a jutsu that the 4th could start, but only the kyuubi jinchurikii is capable of, which happens to be his son. Remember Jiraiya said that the 4th always had a plan, which I presume will become more apparent with time.

Also, if Naruto learns greater chakra control, he may create some jutsu's which remold the rasengan with/without elemental recomposition.

If he learns the 4th's yellow flash technique, I am not sure who would teach it to him. I remember from the Kakashi Gaiden that the technique involved the 4th reacting to special kunai in weight/shape and that had summoning scrolls wrapped around the handles. I wouldn't be surprised if he left that technique to his son.

As for a timeline to this training, I don't know, but it will be greater than a week.

I'm not sure what Itachi gave Naruto, but whatever it was, we likely won't see it until they fight. I know that Itachi prays Naruto will never need to use it, so I presume it is not just defensive but may injure a Sharingan user, perhaps blind them? I can't believe that Naruto gets an eye technique unless Kakashi were to leave his Sharingan to Naruto who has so much chakra/stamina that he could wield it quite effectively. This is an incredible long shot to me.



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I don't know that Pein is going to Konoha looking for a fight. He may scout the village out using Konan like he did to find Jiraiya. If he is like Itachi, he may leave after a skirmish to avoid waking the whole village. I really don't see any point to him fighting Konoha ninja unless necessary. That's all for me, for I am just an academy student.

Peace.
 

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Hey all,

Just thought I'd drop in some thoughts I had. First, I believe Naruto will learn the following jutsu's while training with the toad sages. I would expect that his ability to control what he summons to be refined. This will refer to Gamakichi, Bunta, and nameless toads, etc. Along these lines he should be able to add to his arsenal the ability to summon the toad stomach from which nothing can break through so far except for Ameratsu. This is a great defense for him as I don't know if Ameratsu can burn through the Kyuubi's chakra cloak. I believe he will also learn hermit mode, though I don't think it will be called that. The reason being that the primary strength of hermit mode is to summon the Ma and Pa toads on each shoulder. If he can control his summoning ability/accuracy, these should be within his reach. There is likely to be a novel jutsu/s he learns from his training. Having the ability to consistently summon the toad of choice requires chakra control, something Naruto is weak at. Perhaps controlling his chakra is the first step to controlling the Kyuubi.

Part of his training may include controlling the Kyuubi. The toads still haven't given Naruto the key Jiraiya left behind for him. They may explain its purpose, how to use it, and the dangers. I believe that this is the jutsu that the 4th could not complete. Or there is a jutsu that the 4th could start, but only the kyuubi jinchurikii is capable of, which happens to be his son. Remember Jiraiya said that the 4th always had a plan, which I presume will become more apparent with time.

Also, if Naruto learns greater chakra control, he may create some jutsu's which remold the rasengan with/without elemental recomposition.

If he learns the 4th's yellow flash technique, I am not sure who would teach it to him. I remember from the Kakashi Gaiden that the technique involved the 4th reacting to special kunai in weight/shape and that had summoning scrolls wrapped around the handles. I wouldn't be surprised if he left that technique to his son.

As for a timeline to this training, I don't know, but it will be greater than a week.

I'm not sure what Itachi gave Naruto, but whatever it was, we likely won't see it until they fight. I know that Itachi prays Naruto will never need to use it, so I presume it is not just defensive but may injure a Sharingan user, perhaps blind them? I can't believe that Naruto gets an eye technique unless Kakashi were to leave his Sharingan to Naruto who has so much chakra/stamina that he could wield it quite effectively. This is an incredible long shot to me.



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I don't know that Pein is going to Konoha looking for a fight. He may scout the village out using Konan like he did to find Jiraiya. If he is like Itachi, he may leave after a skirmish to avoid waking the whole village. I really don't see any point to him fighting Konoha ninja unless necessary. That's all for me, for I am just an academy student.

Peace.
Your new here so welcome!
You have some good points. I agree Pain may not totally deystroy the village but may leave after a short skirmage.
But I thought Naruto always had good chakra control. Rasangen is the most advanced chakra manitpulation can get. You have to have good control to do it. Also I hope Naruto dosen't get hermit mode. He would look retarted.:naruto:
 

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Your new here so welcome!

But I thought Naruto always had good chakra control. Rasangen is the most advanced chakra manitpulation can get. You have to have good control to do it. Also I hope Naruto dosen't get hermit mode. He would look retarted.:naruto:
He is the only Rasengan user (4th I assume, Jiraiya, and Kakashi create it one-handed) that requires the use of a shadow clone to form it (shape, density/power). Wind release Shuriken Rasengan uses three shadow clones (Shape, density/power, and elemental). He also has demonstrated difficulty summoning due to improper chakra release. For example summoning gamakichi rather than Bunta.

He did make the Rasengan once one-handed when he was one-tailed against Sasuke. Also, Jiraiya did make a giant Rasengan one-handed (I presume), so if the chakra-density is maintained I think that the shape can be manipulated (Wind release shuriken Rasengan).

I presume sage training has to include the ability to summon Ma and Pa, though they did criticize Jiraiya for not mastering it, which Naruto might overcome due to shadow clone training. Also, sage mode could look different per user like the MS. We don't know if Jiraiya looked foolish in hermit mode when he was young if he had it then.

Sage Mode is the most powerful ability the toads have, so I don't see why they wouldn't give it to Naruto if he is capable of learning it. Thanks for the welcome.

Peace,
 

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Pein's probably gonna attack Konoha before he realizes Naruto isn't home.. then he'll have to kill a few people so he doesn't get killed himself. That, or he may attack Konoha to draw out Naruto since everybody knows that's the type of guy Naruto is.
 

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They may not invade Konoha like that. Take Itachi & Kisame as an example, they managed to get into Konoha quietly, Pain may do the same. They'll just enter Konoha quietly and look for Naruto.
 
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first of all gara after his fight with naruto decided that his not going to use his jinchuuriki powers any more,he didnt even used them in his fight with deiadara,so i dont think this would be a big disadvantage for him,maybe he can even get some sleep now.
as for danzo being madara or pein i dont think thats possible because tsunade has him watched constantly,and unless he knows some high distance teleportation jutsu i dont see the way this theory could stand.
but then again if he is madara he already knows that kind of jutsu,and maybe this is some kind of his plan to first infiltrate in enemy orders and then attack (this is based on theory that madara is mizukage).

I don't recall Garra saying that he's not going to use his Jinchuriki powers (your probably right) but even Naruto has special abilities without having to release the nine-tails, out of this world chakra limit, healing abilities etc. I think Gara had the same sort of powers as Naruto in this sense and his Chakra limit is probably not nearly as much as it was before!!! I'm almost positive that he used some of the Jinchuriki's powers, he probably promised not to release the Biiju itself like he did when they fought. but i cant imagine him being nearly as powerful as he was. and as for Danzou, anything is possible, and I'm betting that one of the biggest surprises in the coming issues is going to be WHO he really is! And I'm betting that it's probably someone powerful ( i'm guessing Pein as apposed to Madara)
 

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first of all gara after his fight with naruto decided that his not going to use his jinchuuriki powers any more,he didnt even used them in his fight with deiadara,so i dont think this would be a big disadvantage for him,maybe he can even get some sleep now.
as for danzo being madara or pein i dont think thats possible because tsunade has him watched constantly,and unless he knows some high distance teleportation jutsu i dont see the way this theory could stand.
but then again if he is madara he already knows that kind of jutsu,and maybe this is some kind of his plan to first infiltrate in enemy orders and then attack (this is based on theory that madara is mizukage).

I don't think Danzou is Pein for one simple reason: Danzou was already a grownup when Jiraiya was teaching young Pein.

Sand jutsus belong to Gaara; what he probably does not have any more is the urge to kill, but I don't think he has lost his sand powers.

Anyway, your theory was interesting until I remembered seeing young Pein training with Jiraiya.
 

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well the next chapter is most likely going to talk about the eight tails.....maybe a small battle teaser will go on too lol
kakashi only got one line in the last chapter!! D: thats not cool!! lol
 
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