never having parents vs having parents then losing them

[shelke]

Let's see, losing parents, vs, being constantly bullied and scorned by every single person around you...which one is a usual cause in event of suicide, hmm, tough one!

Naruto's socialization trouble and the fact no body invited him when their kid broke his milk teeth. Let's all cry for his troubles. How could watching scenes of your kith and kins shambles scattered all over the locality and the slaughter of your parents even compare.

 

[Raekwon26]

I am 100% serious.

Wow. Just wow.

 

[TrollKing]

I have been.

That's great! We have a very good common ground

You don't see "normal" people everyday =D

 

[Mellanoma]

What about Edo Tensei Parents?

 

[Darth Uchiha]

Naruto's socialization trouble and the fact no body invited him when their kid broke his milk teeth. Let's all cry for his troubles. How could watching scenes of your kith and kins shambles scattered all over the locality and the slaughter of your parents even compare.

Honestly, the comparison is that Naruto's life was crap, honestly, you're all seeing things from the perspective that you've actually been loved, you can't begin to comprehend how torturous an existence completely devoid of love or compassion truly is, and, that was the first years of his life as a child. Even then, when Naruto was finally given a chance at reprieve, he jumped at it, when Sasuke was afforded the same, he denied it.

 

[Vapid]

Um...no. Most teen suicides are caused by extensive bullying, the kind that Naruto went through, loss of a parent is tough, but isn't a cause as often as the former is, and, in adults, they've come to accept that parents pass on.

Naruto went through bullying from birth; bullying and loneliness became so normal in his everyday life from birth that putting it aside and becoming a goofball was second nature. Most teens who commit suicide only start getting bullied in school (they had years of peace before, which is why they kill themselves: they lose that peace of mind (like Sasuke

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You can't compare Naruto to a suicidal teen; they have two completely different upbringings.

OT: Loss, depending on the extent, is the most potent pain in the world, imo.

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

I still don't get how so? Most people in Sasuke's situation end up in therapy for a while (years, perhaps) before eventually becoming productive members of society. Most people in Naruto's situation end up dead via suicide.

Nobody loses their entire clan and family to their older brother that they admired either.Sasuke was so messed up not even therapy would change him.

 

[Darth Uchiha]

Naruto went through bullying from birth; bullying and loneliness became so normal in his everyday life from birth that putting it aside and becoming a goofball was second nature. Most teens who commit suicide only start getting bullied in school (they had 4 years of peace, which is why they kill themselves: they lose that peace of mind (like Sasuke

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You can't compare Naruto to a suicidal teen; they have two completely different upbringings.

OT: Loss, depending on the extent, is the potent pain in the world, imo.

Um no, actually, I can say his life was far worse. Me, I've been bullied since I was around 4, with some reprieves, but very few, and, after a while, I was half insane, and completely broken. It's shown that all that prankster crap was a facade anyway, something he used to get attention, since it's clearly shown that his true self was Dark Naruto.

 

[shelke]

Honestly, the comparison is that Naruto's life was crap, honestly, you're all seeing things from the perspective that you've actually been loved, you can't begin to comprehend how torturous an existence completely devoid of love or compassion truly is, and, that was the first years of his life as a child. Even then, when Naruto was finally given a chance at reprieve, he jumped at it, when Sasuke was afforded the same, he denied it.

One phrase: the king of fodders' fodder called Iruka. I rest my case.

 

[Darth Uchiha]

Nobody loses their entire clan and family to their older brother that they admired either.Sasuke was so messed up not even therapy would change him.

Except there have been children whose entire families were killed by other family members they admired, and therapy helped them...

 

[Darth Uchiha]

One phrase: the king of fodders' fodder called Iruka. I rest my case.

Your case makes no sense, it doesn't matter who it was, as Naruto didn't care, he just needed somebody, anybody.

 

[Tennis Robot]

Are you still confused about the praise being just as bad as disparagement thing?

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

Except there have been children whose entire families were killed by other family members they admired, and therapy helped them...

Not really,some people who experience tragedy like that tend to keep it repressed which leads to self destructive life styles.And Sasuke not only lost his family but his entire clan.To a brother he admired the most....something like that changes people.

 

[Vapid]

Um no, actually, I can say his life was far worse. Me, I've been bullied since I was around 4, with some reprieves, but very few, and, after a while, I was half insane, and completely broken. It's shown that all that prankster crap was a facade anyway, something he used to get attention, since it's clearly shown that his true self was Dark Naruto.

Yes, but covering that up (Dark Naruto) was always easy for him, because being bullied/hated is something he's literally dealt with from birth.

And you and your experiences are irrelevant; if I had to guess, I would say that you simply were a little fodder who was likely spoiled as a child prior to school; you didn't have the balls Naruto does, so your childhood experiences aren't even remotely comparable to his.

 

[Darth Uchiha]

Not really,some people who experience tragedy like that tend to keep it repressed which leads to self destructive life styles.And Sasuke not only lost his family but his entire clan.To a brother he admired the most....something like that changes people.

Some people, others (most) get help, and, with time, get better.

 

[shelke]

Your case makes no sense, it doesn't matter who it was, as Naruto didn't care, he just needed somebody, anybody.

So Iruka doesn't fit into your post's equation?

 

[Tennis Robot]

Yes, but covering that up (Dark Naruto) was always easy for him, because being bullied/hated is something he's literally dealt with from birth.

And you and your experiences are irrelevant; if I had to guess, I would say that you simply were a little fodder who was likely spoiled as a child prior to school; you didn't have the balls Naruto does, so your childhood experiences aren't even remotely comparable to his.

The first paragraph is accurate, but I'm not so sure about what you said after that...

 

[Darth Uchiha]

Yes, but covering that up (Dark Naruto) was always easy for him, because being bullied/hated is something he's literally dealt with from birth.

And you and your experiences are irrelevant; if I had to guess, I would say that you simply were a little fodder who was likely spoiled as a child prior to school; you didn't have the balls Naruto does, so your childhood experiences aren't even remotely comparable to his.

Um, actually no, how dare you presume to know my life? Actually, I was made fun of constantly, despite not doing anything really, unless, you're saying that only a real man snaps after 12 years of bullying and goes on a killing spree. Btw, I did master Naruto's "Hide My Emotions Under A Mask" technique, and, like most people that use it, I used it to hide my depression and suicidal thoughts, which led to me actually trying to kill myself, so, yeah, that's pretty shitty logic there, dumbass.

 

[Tennis Robot]

This isn't the way to resolve anything...

 

[Darth Uchiha]

This isn't the way to resolve anything...

Well, I'm sorry, but, she made it personal, and, frankly, I am offended.