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Man no spoilers or anything yet... I figured afer 3 weeks of no manga at least we could get early spoilers or something, yea I know we got an early release of the manga last week but I was hoping for early spoilers this week.
 

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you are right ............according to the story the 3rd war ended before 15 years of present naruto ..............at that time j man taught nagato in the rain village.......so pain must be 15 or around 20 years elder than present naruto that is around 30 to 35..............so it is not possible for pain to resurrect madara..............
That is not what i said hahaha
i said he used izanagi to resurrect him after the fight lol he merely used pain's tech When they met and he has been using that to exsist in fairly decent shape to present day :) haha
altho it is all speculation but i just wanted to clear that up as pain did exsist in the 3rd ninja war as we saw with danzo and hanzo with yahiko and konan so it could be a very real possiblilty that they met towards the end of the war and formed akatsuki then and he used his tech to maintain Madara lol
that is what i was getting at
 

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That is not what i said hahaha
i said he used izanagi to resurrect him after the fight lol he merely used pain's tech When they met and he has been using that to exsist in fairly decent shape to present day :) haha
altho it is all speculation but i just wanted to clear that up as pain did exsist in the 3rd ninja war as we saw with danzo and hanzo with yahiko and konan so it could be a very real possiblilty that they met towards the end of the war and formed akatsuki then and he used his tech to maintain Madara lol
that is what i was getting at
I don't think that Izanagi is a resurrection jutsu. All that we know about the Jutsu is that Danzou appears to die and reappear unscathed. We don't know that he is actually dieing. This could be a very advanced clone jutsu, or a very advanced genjutsu. Or, some combination of an advanced clone jutsu with an advanced genjutsu.

If Danzou has 10 sharingan, that's equivalent to 5 Uchiha warriors. If 5 Uchiha acted together to create a single genjutsu, it would be more powerful than if just 1 warrior did it. Think about the possibilities when you combine 5 warriors together performing a single jutsu (or performing several separate jutsus together into one large combination jutsu).
 

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The plot is failing in one major thing in my opinion..Which is absurd..

- Freaking 3 years have past and Naruto still loves Sasuke so much as to go to all that trouble.. If one reads the manga again will note two things..

1. Through the entire series they were never that close in terms of true friendship (at least by Sasuke side) .. Specially after Sasuke saw Naruto save Sakura from Gaara transformed into Shukaku (Bijuu)..

2. By the shippuden time Sasuke got so deepened up in revenge that he feels nothing other then indifference for Naruto.. He wouldn't give 2 craps if Naruto died right now..

He will only fight Naruto if Naruto gets in the way of his revenge path.. Other then that reason he doesn't wants business with Naruto..
Just like in the Kage meeting,Sasuke wanted nothing out of the Kages or business with them.. They just happened to be on the way and blocking his path..

On the other hand we have someone so persistent that he putted on his head that Sasuke is like a brother to him and that it has a chance that Sasuke actually gives a rat ass about him..
He's just dillusional by this point and this where the plot fails in my opinion..

Naruto is fighting so hard for a lost cause and he's just dillusional..

Sasuke doesn't want to go back to the village.. So be it,he tried and the later rejected.. Here you have a noble guy who is capable of sacrificing himself for his older teammate and love him to death & then you have the other guy who doesn't care for his "lover"..This doesn't match at all.. Move on or kill yourself if you can't live with it.
Sasuke actually wants to harm the village in some way.. If any Naruto should want him dead..

Jiraiya couldn't retrieve Orochimaru (and he stated that Orochimaru was his closest friend) and he moved on..
Jiraiya was in a worst scenario.. His old companion actually turned himself into a total serial killer and his one of freakiest/greatest villains in Manga history IMO (for so twisted he was)..
And Jiraiya just moved on with his life.. This show how much of a grown man he was instead of being a cry baby..

If you gonna cry all your life by Sasuke,just kill your self and end the suffer..

That's why Naruto character gets ridiculous in my opinion.. C'mon Kishi just make the kid grow the Fuck up..

In one side you putted an emo cry baby.. Naruto (yes,he's the one who looks emo with all his Sasuke's shit)

And..

On the other side you put a guy who got nuts due to revenge??

Yes because revenge does turn a people mind's around and turn a previous great person into someone incredibly bad.. I know for personal experience..
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That is Naruto's brother as both of them had no family apart from team 7 So the bond you have for your family runs into the blood and bone of the person it is not decieveing to think how far one would go for a brother even if he is a douche haha and they did have a level of respect for one another throughtout everything it was a compition between them but they held a level of respect like Sasuke would go save Naruto when he was in trouble (battle with Oro in the exams) and Naruto would save sasuke like (haku and Garaa) plus when sasuke got his MS he thought of team 7 before he opened his eyes and when he saw the great Naruto bridge he smiled and took a pause so Sasuke does infact have not "the Love" naruto has but a degree of respect and honor for Naruto which can be turned into love later in the series of a brotherly type haha
For the rest of the post Yes J-man failed with Oro ... However Naruto's awesome power has never been in jutsu but what he did with pain to change the veiws on reailty and with the "gift" itachi gave to Naruto i believe we will find out a true story of what happend and the fight will be against Madara and Danzo and possibly kabutoro lol .... we have seen hints that Danzo and Madara know something about each other and Madara wants him dead for this reason ... We also have seen ties that lead oro back to Danzo so the history there could be the "gift" to make sasuke realize Itachi's truth and fill in the gaps that Madara left out...
I believe that 30 chapters of him crying and pissing about is showing him grow up like when we lost out frist real girlfriend/boyfriend we cried and stuff too so a brother is along those lines however he will not give up cause that would change his charactor ... it all is going to the flow of a real life situation
He will come back stronger and meaner after this cause now all his friends have turned against Naruto in a way and leaving Naruto all alone to acomplish his promises and fulfill his nindo :) So we will see him talk to his dad maybe ! in his sub-consious mind where his dad will play a role with the toad seal or something ... i don't know but all i do know is that Naruto is feeling not just sasuke's pain but the whole village now has turned against him so it is understandable he is a touch emo right now but mark my words! he will do one of two things
1. Train and master something increadible (like the flying thunder god . or something J-man tought him)
2. Leave everyone for a period of time and travel where he meets KB and masters Kyubii ... or just has a one to one talk with the fox and lays the law down lol Sage slaps the fox into being his bitch LOL also fitting
Sorry for the long post ...
Let me here your thoughts please i enjoy disscussing them :) have a good day
 
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Kakashi is internationally renowned for the number of Jutsus and techniques he has mastered. He's also high in the rankings of ninja who could become Hokage, and not for no reason. Naruto has power, yes, but he still needs to learn control, strategy, style, and new techniques. Weaker ninja can still have valuable lessons for him.
Yeah like in Dragon Ball, King Kai wasnt as strong as Goku, but Goku became more stronger with his techniques
 

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Man no spoilers or anything yet... I figured afer 3 weeks of no manga at least we could get early spoilers or something, yea I know we got an early release of the manga last week but I was hoping for early spoilers this week.
u aint dat only 1 i woke up early at 1 pm ta see if we had spoilers
 

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Quick ponderance: We've seen the Rinnegan twice: Once from the great sage and once in Nagato.

Both were brought up in times of war and extreme personal stress. Kakashi suggests that the Rinnegan is some sort of randomly-occurring mutation. We've also seen that the sharingan appears in an Uchiha after experiencing stress.

Well what if the Rinnegan is a more extreme form of that? What if the Rinnegan appears in people who are experiencing EXTREME distress?

Madara said he wants to synchronize Sasuke with the Demonic Statue of the Outer Path. However, the only other person that we've seen work with that statue was Pain/Nagato.

Sasuke seems to be following a similar path guided by Madara. We've already seen in his battle with Danzou so far that his powers are increased by his hatred and his anger. There are plenty of things that are going to make Sasuke more angry:

1) Danzou's body is made of the disembodied parts of Sasuke's family and friends. We don't know whose sharingans Danzou stole, but I think when Danzou tells him whose eyes they are Sasuke will be PISSED (Imagine if Sasuke's father's eye is on the palm of his fap hand xd)
2) Sakura is going to fight and try to kill Sasuke. We know Sasuke still has a soft spot for his old team 7, even if he hides it. This is really going to stress him out.
3) Finally having to hunt Naruto down for the nine-tailed fox. This will be stressfull too.
4) I'm sure he'll have to fight Kakashi at some point too, especially if Sasuke goes after Naruto and Kakashi becomes Hokage.
5) If Karin or other Taka members get killed by Danzou or other enemies, he will be extremely upset.

All these things combine together, Sasuke could have the kind of meltdown that will lead him to gain the Rinnegan. This would enable him to control the statue to seal the additional tailed beasts.

Now that Sasuke's sharingan are almost completely powered up and he has no other good way of gaining more power (training? discipline? patience? Hell no), Madara directing him to unlock the rinnegan would be the next step for him.
 

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Yeah like in Dragon Ball, King Kai wasnt as strong as Goku, but Goku became more stronger with his techniques
Dragonball z was the best anime ever!!! lol

But you are correct :)

We need naruto to act like gohan vs cell, he needs to be pushed over the edge by his friends getting hurt then have a massive change in power and own someone :D
 

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I don't think that Izanagi is a resurrection jutsu. All that we know about the Jutsu is that Danzou appears to die and reappear unscathed. We don't know that he is actually dieing. This could be a very advanced clone jutsu, or a very advanced genjutsu. Or, some combination of an advanced clone jutsu with an advanced genjutsu.

If Danzou has 10 sharingan, that's equivalent to 5 Uchiha warriors. If 5 Uchiha acted together to create a single genjutsu, it would be more powerful than if just 1 warrior did it. Think about the possibilities when you combine 5 warriors together performing a single jutsu (or performing several separate jutsus together into one large combination jutsu).
Yes but it does seem to be linked in some form to the dissappearence of one sharingan eye everytime he uses it he also becomes weaker and weaker when this happens so it leads me to believe he has the power of 5 uchiha warriors but it is a ressurection type jutsu at the cost of one's eye i posted my theroy about it so you'll have to read where i am coming from however yours makes sence also
 

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Saint Seiya.. It was actually even before DBZ so it kind of started the precedents for characters like Goku and Vegeta..
I havnt heard of that, ill have to look it up :)

Hmmm sasuke and naruto remind me of goku and vegeta

naruto and goku both want peace and to protect them who are close to them

sasuke and vegeta both want power and to do what they want :p
 

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I havnt heard of that, ill have to look it up :)

Hmmm sasuke and naruto remind me of goku and vegeta

naruto and goku both want peace and to protect them who are close to them

sasuke and vegeta both want power and to do what they want :p
I stopped watching that. I think Seiya is way too soft. It's ridiculous how only after he is near death he is still able to defeat his opponent. It was better at the beginning of the series...
 

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Quick ponderance: We've seen the Rinnegan twice: Once from the great sage and once in Nagato.

Both were brought up in times of war and extreme personal stress. Kakashi suggests that the Rinnegan is some sort of randomly-occurring mutation. We've also seen that the sharingan appears in an Uchiha after experiencing stress.

Well what if the Rinnegan is a more extreme form of that? What if the Rinnegan appears in people who are experiencing EXTREME distress?

Madara said he wants to synchronize Sasuke with the Demonic Statue of the Outer Path. However, the only other person that we've seen work with that statue was Pain/Nagato.

Sasuke seems to be following a similar path guided by Madara. We've already seen in his battle with Danzou so far that his powers are increased by his hatred and his anger. There are plenty of things that are going to make Sasuke more angry:

1) Danzou's body is made of the disembodied parts of Sasuke's family and friends. We don't know whose sharingans Danzou stole, but I think when Danzou tells him whose eyes they are Sasuke will be PISSED (Imagine if Sasuke's father's eye is on the palm of his fap hand xd)
2) Sakura is going to fight and try to kill Sasuke. We know Sasuke still has a soft spot for his old team 7, even if he hides it. This is really going to stress him out.
3) Finally having to hunt Naruto down for the nine-tailed fox. This will be stressfull too.
4) I'm sure he'll have to fight Kakashi at some point too, especially if Sasuke goes after Naruto and Kakashi becomes Hokage.
5) If Karin or other Taka members get killed by Danzou or other enemies, he will be extremely upset.

All these things combine together, Sasuke could have the kind of meltdown that will lead him to gain the Rinnegan. This would enable him to control the statue to seal the additional tailed beasts.

Now that Sasuke's sharingan are almost completely powered up and he has no other good way of gaining more power (training? discipline? patience? Hell no), Madara directing him to unlock the rinnegan would be the next step for him.
no, rinnegan is rinnegan and sharingan is sharingan.
a person cannot have both.

Lets compare pain and obito, you remember that pain wanted to save yahiko so badly that he actually awakened the rinnegan, lost himself and killed the ninja that attacked them. Similarly obito was feeling kind of weak and wanted to save kakashi so bad that he awakened his sharingan.
They were also around the same age.

From this i just want to say that I think that no one can have both.
 
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If with the rinnengan you can master all jutsus, does that mean you can master all Ms abilities too or am i wrong in thinking this?
Well, the rinnegan can master all jutsus, but I don't think that includes the MS. If he could, I am pretty sure that Pein would have learned the techs cuz that woulda made him like 10x stronger. Besides, the sage of 6 paths-who had the rinnegan- had 2 sons, and one of them had the sharingan; therefore i doubt that the sharingan would be included in the abilities of the rinnegan, since the original rinnegan was created even before sharingan was created.
 
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Quick ponderance: We've seen the Rinnegan twice: Once from the great sage and once in Nagato.

Both were brought up in times of war and extreme personal stress. Kakashi suggests that the Rinnegan is some sort of randomly-occurring mutation. We've also seen that the sharingan appears in an Uchiha after experiencing stress.

Well what if the Rinnegan is a more extreme form of that? What if the Rinnegan appears in people who are experiencing EXTREME distress?

Madara said he wants to synchronize Sasuke with the Demonic Statue of the Outer Path. However, the only other person that we've seen work with that statue was Pain/Nagato.

Sasuke seems to be following a similar path guided by Madara. We've already seen in his battle with Danzou so far that his powers are increased by his hatred and his anger. There are plenty of things that are going to make Sasuke more angry:

1) Danzou's body is made of the disembodied parts of Sasuke's family and friends. We don't know whose sharingans Danzou stole, but I think when Danzou tells him whose eyes they are Sasuke will be PISSED (Imagine if Sasuke's father's eye is on the palm of his fap hand xd)
2) Sakura is going to fight and try to kill Sasuke. We know Sasuke still has a soft spot for his old team 7, even if he hides it. This is really going to stress him out.
3) Finally having to hunt Naruto down for the nine-tailed fox. This will be stressfull too.
4) I'm sure he'll have to fight Kakashi at some point too, especially if Sasuke goes after Naruto and Kakashi becomes Hokage.
5) If Karin or other Taka members get killed by Danzou or other enemies, he will be extremely upset.

All these things combine together, Sasuke could have the kind of meltdown that will lead him to gain the Rinnegan. This would enable him to control the statue to seal the additional tailed beasts.

Now that Sasuke's sharingan are almost completely powered up and he has no other good way of gaining more power (training? discipline? patience? Hell no), Madara directing him to unlock the rinnegan would be the next step for him.
I somewhat agree... No, I doubt Sasuke will get the Rinnegan, cuz that is just too much power, but Madara is most definitely pushing Sasuke to unlock more MS powers, like this new Susano.
 

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Well, the rinnegan can master all jutsus, but I don't think that includes the MS. If he could, I am pretty sure that Pein would have learned the techs cuz that woulda made him like 10x stronger. Besides, the sage of 6 paths-who had the rinnegan- had 2 sons, and one of them had the sharingan; therefore i doubt that the sharingan would be included in the abilities of the rinnegan, since the original rinnegan was created even before sharingan was created.
Well technically the sharringan was created from the rinnengan so maybe he could use the abilities but he didnt think he needed too with the arsenal of jutsus he already had :D
 
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