Underrating Itachi's stamina

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Yes, the databook gives Itachi a 2.5/5 when it comes to stamina. And yet, he pushed Sasuke (who has a 3.5/5) to his limits while sick, dying, near-blind, and without an intent to kill while sasuke had a chakra boost from curse mark.

The 2.5 means that at full power, Itachi's stamina is average. What it doesn't take into account is his perseverance. If Sasuke was completely drained by the time Itachi was dead, to the point of falling unconscious (keep in mind, sasuke didn't sustain any major injuries in the fight) then doesn't that contradict Itachi's horrible stamina? In the state Itachi was in, Sasuke shouldn't have been too tired when he won, but he was.

Basically, outlasting Itachi isn't the way someone's going to beat him unless their stamina is ridiculously high (senju dna and bijuu chakra miracles) just because of how much he will do to complete his goal. His life is a key example of this Lol
 

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Dat Willpower
 

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well he cant use susanoo for long and sasuke can soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
 

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well he cant use susanoo for long and sasuke can soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
What? A sick and dying Itachi who's already been spamming his techs and was under the strain from bringing it up instantly to block Kirin can't maintain a v4 susanoo, even though MS Sasuke needed Itachi's eyes to get past a v3?

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Against kakashi: one tsukyomi, had to flee
Against jiraiya: One tsukyomi, one amaterasu, very weakened
Against Naruto: used only typical genjutsu.
Against Sasuke: A tsukyomi, an amaterasu, some shuriken jutsu, some generic fire jutsu, and a few minutes of susano'o... and he DIED
 

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I think it's a testament to his skill. He forced Sasuke to work a lot harder than he did.
 

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Against kakashi: one tsukyomi, had to flee
Against jiraiya: One tsukyomi, one amaterasu, very weakened
Against Naruto: used only typical genjutsu.
Against Sasuke: A tsukyomi, an amaterasu, some shuriken jutsu, some generic fire jutsu, and a few minutes of susano'o... and he DIED

and sasuke does that before breakfast
 

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You realize Sasuke has to use chakra to hold back Orochimaru? That alone hindered his chakra reserves greatly.
 

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Against kakashi: one tsukyomi, had to flee
Against jiraiya: One tsukyomi, one amaterasu, very weakened
Against Naruto: used only typical genjutsu.
Against Sasuke: A tsukyomi, an amaterasu, some shuriken jutsu, some generic fire jutsu, and a few minutes of susano'o... and he DIED
Vs Kakashi, jiraiya, and naruto he showed no visable signs of being weakened except some tiredness after using some intense amaterasu to get out of the frog.

And he was already in the middle of dying BEFORE sasuke showed up
 

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You realize Sasuke has to use chakra to hold back Orochimaru? That alone hindered his chakra reserves greatly.

Can't have been that much when orochimaru only broke out after Sasuke was completely drained to the point where he could barely maintain sharingan
 

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What? A sick and dying Itachi who's already been spamming his techs and was under the strain from bringing it up instantly to block Kirin can't maintain a v4 susanoo, even though MS Sasuke needed Itachi's eyes to get past a v3?

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When did Sasuke need Itachi's eyes to get past v3? He had v4 with MS alone.
 

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Or his chakra control was extremely on point :erm:. Needing completely only the necessary amount of chakra for high level techniques. You could argue what Ebisu said in Part I for Sasuke and that he probably "improved" since Orochimaru trained him, but it wasn't stated so it is only assumption, plus Ebisu said it was an exaggerated example.
 

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Yes he did. But that doesn't mean Sasuke's eyes had less power than Itachi's eyes. It just shows either how
much of a genius Itachi is, or just that Sasuke is way too much of a spammer.
 

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AIDS was killing him in the inside man. It's all Orochimaru's fault. First with Kimimaro than Itachi. Sasuke was smart enough to use protection though.
 
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What? A sick and dying Itachi who's already been spamming his techs and was under the strain from bringing it up instantly to block Kirin can't maintain a v4 susanoo, even though MS Sasuke needed Itachi's eyes to get past a v3?

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Itachi only used Amaterasu twice and Tsukuyomi once. I don't call that spamming. Also, Sasuke progressed his Susano to Itachi's level in one day:| Itachi had his for how many years to get to that level? That sh** was retarded. It doesn't show a lack of skill on Sasuke's part just that Sasuke rushed his. In fact its a testament to Sasuke's willpower
 

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Itachi only used Amaterasu twice and Tsukuyomi once. I don't call that spamming. Also, Sasuke progressed his Susano to Itachi's level in one day:| Itachi had his for how many years to get to that level? That sh** was retarded. It doesn't show a lack of skill on Sasuke's part just that Sasuke rushed his. In fact its a testament to Sasuke's willpower

Using Amaterasu twice = using it continuously, burning part of a forest
 

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You do know Sasuke used Orochimaru's body shedding technique which used A LOT of chakra and the CM taking his chakra with every jutsu he uses AND he had to keep Orochimaru at bay with a large part of his chakra Sasuke was nerfed bad in that fight.
 

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Against kakashi: one tsukyomi, had to flee
Against jiraiya: One tsukyomi, one amaterasu, very weakened
Against Naruto: used only typical genjutsu.
Against Sasuke: A tsukyomi, an amaterasu, some shuriken jutsu, some generic fire jutsu, and a few minutes of susano'o... and he DIED

Sasuke would have died if Obito hadn't saved him. Did you forget?
 
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