why it's impossible for Naruto to win

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have you even read the manga when it concerns other characters? Do you even know how pitifully sad bee, kcm naruto and itachiʻs combined attacks are compared to what BM Naruto alone could output, let alone a version of naruto who can do






so what?


Naruto just stays out of range or blows up the technique before sasuke switches places with it, or has a clone ready to kill sasuke once he switches places with sasuke. There are so many ways naruto deals with his S/T, and naruto is actually way faster at attacking someone than sasuke is.


I donʻt see how you can say "that really doesnʻt compare" when youʻve made no effort to make any comparison. Youʻve literally just listed things that sasuke has, explain what they do and thatʻs it. Sasuke absolutely does not have the upperhand by feats or by hype, even with his S/T he could never even lay a finger on kaguya while naruto outright blitzed her. Naruto fought her solo for a bunch of chapters and even pushed her back while sasukeʻs greatest weapon: PS got fodderized by mere chakra punches.
Clearly sasuke was testing his abilities
 

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Clearly sasuke was testing his abilities
And thatʻs basically you conceding the thread since:
1) youʻve implicitly admitted that everything youʻve posted in the OP has been destroyed by my argument which is why you have to bring up the excuse that sasuke was just testing his abilities

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2) thereʻs no evidence that sasuke was testing his abilities. Testing abilities =/= getting more used to your abilities as you use them in a battle. Both Naruto and Sasuke were getting more use to their abilities, thatʻs why naruto doesnʻt pull any of the stuff he did to overpower kaguya against Madara. Same reason he didnʻt know he could fly.


And now you know how it feels to have a thread completely backfire on you.
 

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And thatʻs basically you conceding the thread since:
1) youʻve implicitly admitted that everything youʻve posted in the OP has been destroyed by my argument which is why you have to bring up the excuse that sasuke was just testing his abilities

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2) thereʻs no evidence that sasuke was testing his abilities. Testing abilities =/= getting more used to your abilities as you use them in a battle. Both Naruto and Sasuke were getting more use to their abilities, thatʻs why naruto doesnʻt pull any of the stuff he did to overpower kaguya against Madara. Same reason he didnʻt know he could fly.


And now you know how it feels to have a thread completely backfire on you.
No i only said that because I'm playing revolution, give me a half an hour and I'll have a response
 

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But Atem (Yami Yugi the true protagonist of the series) lost to Yugi Mutou in the final duel.

There's your proof that Sasuke beats Naruto.
Yami Yugi losing to Yugi is the same as Ashura losing to Naruto.

One thing that is consistent in Naruto is that good triumphs over evil, light defeats dark. Naruto represents light and Sasuke represents dark.
 
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have you even read the manga when it concerns other characters? Do you even know how pitifully sad bee, kcm naruto and itachiʻs combined attacks are compared to what BM Naruto alone could output, let alone a version of naruto who can do






so what?


Naruto just stays out of range or blows up the technique before sasuke switches places with it, or has a clone ready to kill sasuke once he switches places with sasuke. There are so many ways naruto deals with his S/T, and naruto is actually way faster at attacking someone than sasuke is.


I donʻt see how you can say "that really doesnʻt compare" when youʻve made no effort to make any comparison. Youʻve literally just listed things that sasuke has, explain what they do and thatʻs it. Sasuke absolutely does not have the upperhand by feats or by hype, even with his S/T he could never even lay a finger on kaguya while naruto outright blitzed her. Naruto fought her solo for a bunch of chapters and even pushed her back while sasukeʻs greatest weapon: PS got fodderized by mere chakra punches.
You got me with the first part, i made the thread in like 5 mins, didn't put much thought into it and forgot about that panel.

PS will be much more different against Naruto because kaguya had Byakugan which helped her Disable it multiple times, and that is something Naruto doesn't have. Also sasuke had more trouble hitting her because of size. Imagine trying to punch a fly, hard right? Naruto is the same size as kaguya and can float so it was easier.

3. So what if sasuke has rinne techniques huh? Imagine him with those, ninjutsu wouldn't work and he could push pull and summon beats that can see where he can't. That's a big factor
4. Staying out of range is his only option because even if Naruto has a clone waiting to kill sasuke after he teleport if sasuke uses susano armor cover with amaterasu he stops the rush and if he had shinra tensei then well, you know

Sasuke was testing\getting used to his eye, imagine if he would've used CT or any o other rinne techs against kaguya. Fight would've ended early. Naruto best bet is long range, that's where he has the upper hand, preferably out of sasuke rinne range
 

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PS will be much more different against Naruto because kaguya had Byakugan which helped her Disable it multiple times, and that is something Naruto doesn't have. Also sasuke had more trouble hitting her because of size. Imagine trying to punch a fly, hard right? Naruto is the same size as kaguya and can float so it was easier.
Why is the byakugan a factor in the scan i posted? Sheʻs not hand palming susanoo, sheʻs punching it, sheʻs breaking it with physical force, naruto does the same with his punches. Naruto is much faster than the kaguya that sasuke couldnʻt hit, how is he going to hit naruto with his PS?

3. So what if sasuke has rinne techniques huh? Imagine him with those, ninjutsu wouldn't work and he could push pull and summon beats that can see where he can't. That's a big factor
Kaguya and madara had all of that and ninjutsu still worked. If sasuke uses shinra tensei, naruto just blitzes him in the cooldown or fires another barrage of attacks. Animal path and its summons are a joke at this point in the manga.

4. Staying out of range is his only option because even if Naruto has a clone waiting to kill sasuke after he teleport if sasuke uses susano armor cover with amaterasu he stops the rush and if he had shinra tensei then well, you know
How does sasuke react by doing things such before the clone ends him with a chakra punch or rasengan variant? How is sasuke going to even mentally react to something like that with shinra tensei, and why wouldnʻt narutoʻs clone just resist the attack since it can fly? You also didnʻt respond to my point of naruto just outright blitzing sasuke or detonating the attack before sasuke switches.

Sasuke was testing\getting used to his eye, imagine if he would've used CT or any o other rinne techs against kaguya. Fight would've ended early. Naruto best bet is long range, that's where he has the upper hand, preferably out of sasuke rinne range
What exactly would using CT against kaguya accomplish? What exactly would have using the other rinnegan techs against kaguya accomplish? She has all the rinnegan techs herself, sasuke uses shinra tensei, she uses one 3x more powerful right back.

Sasuke was absolutely not testing his eye, getting used to is a given since that was literally stated in the manga, but testing? Obviously not, and if he was then by that same standard naruto was testing his powers as well. Naruto doesnʻt even need to fight at long range, heʻs already shown that he can blitz people with his shunshin that sasuke canʻt even touch with his S/T, naruto can solo sasuke with a couple of clones at this point if we go by pure feats. if we go by hype, again narutoʻs performance against kaguya puts him on a higher level than sasuke.
 

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Why is the byakugan a factor in the scan i posted? Sheʻs not hand palming susanoo, sheʻs punching it, sheʻs breaking it with physical force, naruto does the same with his punches. Naruto is much faster than the kaguya that sasuke couldnʻt hit, how is he going to hit naruto with his PS?


Kaguya and madara had all of that and ninjutsu still worked. If sasuke uses shinra tensei, naruto just blitzes him in the cooldown or fires another barrage of attacks. Animal path and its summons are a joke at this point in the manga.


How does sasuke react by doing things such before the clone ends him with a chakra punch or rasengan variant? How is sasuke going to even mentally react to something like that with shinra tensei, and why wouldnʻt narutoʻs clone just resist the attack since it can fly? You also didnʻt respond to my point of naruto just outright blitzing sasuke or detonating the attack before sasuke switches.


What exactly would using CT against kaguya accomplish? What exactly would have using the other rinnegan techs against kaguya accomplish? She has all the rinnegan techs herself, sasuke uses shinra tensei, she uses one 3x more powerful right back.

Sasuke was absolutely not testing his eye, getting used to is a given since that was literally stated in the manga, but testing? Obviously not, and if he was then by that same standard naruto was testing his powers as well. Naruto doesnʻt even need to fight at long range, heʻs already shown that he can blitz people with his shunshin that sasuke canʻt even touch with his S/T, naruto can solo sasuke with a couple of clones at this point if we go by pure feats. if we go by hype, again narutoʻs performance against kaguya puts him on a higher level than sasuke.
Those little hair needles and things were Byakugan enhanced, that's why susano wouldn't work against her. If i was on my computer id show scans

Unlike kaguya and others sasuke has been fighting with and against Naruto since pt1...he knows he will spam shadow clones and will counter it with what i said he will a susano covered in amaterasu or ST, and sasuke switches in an instant, who's too say he wouldn't do so right before it explodes?

CT would've given them time, and disoriented her, and if she had all rinne techs why didn't she just kill Naruto and sasuke early with almighty pull ans the bonev technique? She doesn't


Going by logic and how sasuke is, you really don't think he had a strategy against blitz? As long as they've known each other that would be absurd. Sasuke is prepared and has planned everything
 

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Those little hair needles and things were Byakugan enhanced, that's why susano wouldn't work against her. If i was on my computer id show scans
Those hair needles werenʻt byakugan enhanced, they were fired at points that the byakugan saw, and they didnʻt even affect sasukeʻs susanoo, all of them were blocked except one and what in the world does that have to do with susanoo not working on her punches?

Unlike kaguya and others sasuke has been fighting with and against Naruto since pt1...he knows he will spam shadow clones and will counter it with what i said he will a susano covered in amaterasu or ST, and sasuke switches in an instant, who's too say he wouldn't do so right before it explodes?
Knowledge is completely irrelevant since whatʻs being tested is sasukeʻs ability to react to the situation. Why would sasuke switch with naruto right before the attack explodes if he doesnʻt know when the attack explodes?

CT would've given them time, and disoriented her, and if she had all rinne techs why didn't she just kill Naruto and sasuke early with almighty pull ans the bonev technique? She doesn't
Why in the world would CT have done anything to her? By your same logic about kaguya not having all the rinne techs because she didnʻt use them, sasuke doesnʻt have them since he hasnʻt used them.

Going by logic and how sasuke is, you really don't think he had a strategy against blitz? As long as they've known each other that would be absurd. Sasuke is prepared and has planned everything
Thatʻs not an argument, thatʻs just blind faith. Just saying "well my character obviously has a plan for X situation" without any evidence to support that, or how viable that plan is means nothing, and is basically you conceding that thereʻs no possible way that you can see sasuke stopping the blitz.
 

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Those hair needles werenʻt byakugan enhanced, they were fired at points that the byakugan saw, and they didnʻt even affect sasukeʻs susanoo, all of them were blocked except one and what in the world does that have to do with susanoo not working on her punches?


Knowledge is completely irrelevant since whatʻs being tested is sasukeʻs ability to react to the situation. Why would sasuke switch with naruto right before the attack explodes if he doesnʻt know when the attack explodes?


Why in the world would CT have done anything to her? By your same logic about kaguya not having all the rinne techs because she didnʻt use them, sasuke doesnʻt have them since he hasnʻt used them.


Thatʻs not an argument, thatʻs just blind faith. Just saying "well my character obviously has a plan for X situation" without any evidence to support that, or how viable that plan is means nothing, and is basically you conceding that thereʻs no possible way that you can see sasuke stopping the blitz.
I didn't click on the link i only clicked in the Naruto one, my bad but yeah bigger target, harder to block.
Sasuke Can see chakra, I'm pretty sure there is some type of change in the formation of the chakra before it explodes, that's when sasuke teleport

She had experience though, if she really had the techs she would've used them early to end it considering how big of a threat they were.

And susano covered in amaterasu and CT Stop blitz as of now. He just had to simultaneously use them
 

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Those hair needles werenʻt byakugan enhanced, they were fired at points that the byakugan saw, and they didnʻt even affect sasukeʻs susanoo, all of them were blocked except one and what in the world does that have to do with susanoo not working on her punches?


Knowledge is completely irrelevant since whatʻs being tested is sasukeʻs ability to react to the situation. Why would sasuke switch with naruto right before the attack explodes if he doesnʻt know when the attack explodes?


Why in the world would CT have done anything to her? By your same logic about kaguya not having all the rinne techs because she didnʻt use them, sasuke doesnʻt have them since he hasnʻt used them.


Thatʻs not an argument, thatʻs just blind faith. Just saying "well my character obviously has a plan for X situation" without any evidence to support that, or how viable that plan is means nothing, and is basically you conceding that thereʻs no possible way that you can see sasuke stopping the blitz.
I didn't click on the link i only clicked in the Naruto one, my bad but yeah bigger target, harder to block.
Sasuke Can see chakra, I'm pretty sure there is some type of change in the formation of the chakra before it explodes, that's when sasuke teleport

She had experience though, if she really had the techs she would've used them early to end it considering how big of a threat they were.

And susano covered in amaterasu and CT Stop blitz as of now. He just had to simultaneously use them
 

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I didn't click on the link i only clicked in the Naruto one, my bad but yeah bigger target, harder to block.
Sasuke Can see chakra, I'm pretty sure there is some type of change in the formation of the chakra before it explodes, that's when sasuke teleport
Pain could see chakra as well, yet he couldnʻt tell when the rasenshuriken exploded.

She had experience though, if she really had the techs she would've used them early to end it considering how big of a threat they were.
or.... those techniques were so inferior compared to the level of the fight that she chose to use other more high level techs like her s/t, sekai muki tensei etc. Madara never used any of those techs, does that mean madara canʻt use shinra tensei, preta path, animal path etc?

And susano covered in amaterasu and CT Stop blitz as of now. He just had to simultaneously use them
How does CT stop his blitz? How does susanoo covered in amaterasu stop his blitz?
 
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