[Curse Mark Challenge] Kiwii vs Hasashi

[Kiwii]

Grass Plain
Sunny Day
Mid-Range

You have 20 ways to kill me in one move, so I guess I'll just start with something simple.

I lift my hands to you, with multiple ants crawling out of my sleeves. And as I smirk at you, an huge blast of wind carries thousands of ants at huge speed.

Fuuton: Daitoppa (Wind Style: Great Break Through)

Spoiler

Type:Attack
Rank: C
Range:Short-Long
Chakra Cost:15
Damage Points:30
Description: A gust of wind that is huge in diameter and can level a tree or two

And after that, I get on hold until the ants reach you. If you join your hands together for an handseal, I imeadiatly activate a genjutsu.

Genjutsu: (Kaunta-TeHan: Rou Gobugari) Handseals Counter: Wax Depilation

Spoiler

Rank: D
Range: Short-Long
Chakra Cost: 10
Damage Points: N/A
Description: As the opponent intends to preform handseals or concentrating, the user casts a genjutsu where the opponent feels like all of his hairs have been waxed. This will make him feel a spasm of pain at the surface of his skin, and he will stop preforming handseals in a suden. If the opponent is 2000 post bellow the user won't be able to notice this is a gejutsu and will have a spasm everytime he does handseals.
*After 3 times he will notice, exept if he is really stupid*

Which means that right after I release the wind, I form one single handseal with my hand and put it close to my smirking lips.

Your turn...

 

[~Hasashi~]

Grass Plain
Sunny Day
Mid-Range

You have 20 ways to kill me in one move, so I guess I'll just start with something simple.

I lift my hands to you, with multiple ants crawling out of my sleeves. And as I smirk at you, an huge blast of wind carries thousands of ants at huge speed.

Fuuton: Daitoppa (Wind Style: Great Break Through)

Spoiler

Type:Attack
Rank: C
Range:Short-Long
Chakra Cost:15
Damage Points:30
Description: A gust of wind that is huge in diameter and can level a tree or two

And after that, I get on hold until the ants reach you. If you join your hands together for an handseal, I imeadiatly activate a genjutsu.

Genjutsu: (Kaunta-TeHan: Rou Gobugari) Handseals Counter: Wax Depilation

Spoiler

Rank: D
Range: Short-Long
Chakra Cost: 10
Damage Points: N/A
Description: As the opponent intends to preform handseals or concentrating, the user casts a genjutsu where the opponent feels like all of his hairs have been waxed. This will make him feel a spasm of pain at the surface of his skin, and he will stop preforming handseals in a suden. If the opponent is 2000 post bellow the user won't be able to notice this is a gejutsu and will have a spasm everytime he does handseals.
*After 3 times he will notice, exept if he is really stupid*

Which means that right after I release the wind, I form one single handseal with my hand and put it close to my smirking lips.

Your turn...

eh not really sure why you would use the genjutsu since you would have to do it after i already started genjutsu are either created with

sight, sound, or a hand seals being that you dont have sharringan then it isn't sight you didn't say you wistled so yeah

so i am asuming hand seals

as soon as you appear i activate byakugan
as you thrust out your hand
(A. they took out the time frame rule
B. this wouldn't even break it b/c you already started your move)

and if you are gonna say i cant do this i simply bite my lower lip drawing blood (hence pain) breaking out of the genjutsu (this would barely slow down my hand signs it would be a fraction of a second and my hand signs are tops a few fractions of a second)

(Katon: Goenkyu) - Fire Style: Blaze Ball
Rank: B
Type: Offense
Range: Short/Long
Chakra Cost: 20
Damage Points: 40
Description: The user exhales a meteor-sized sphere of fire that carries the enemy away and causes a massive explosion on impact.

i complete the hand signs b4 you can use your genjutsu (my hand signs are a lot faster being that i am higer rank)

then as you use a jutsu to stop the fire+wind combo i use


earth style: death trap (doton: zetsumei kansei)
rank: S
type: attack
range: short-mid
chakra: 40
damage: 80
description: the user will slam his hands on the ground and the earth around the opponent will come up and trap then in a dome of earth (with about 6 inches of room) the dome is special if the opponent attacks the walls of the dome they will instantly shatter and earth spikes will shoot out of the wall spewing the opponent all over however the entire after the dome is formed the user focuses his fire chakra into the dome so if the opponent doesn't attack the walls after 1 turn the walls will melt to lava and burn the opponent
~no earth jutsu for 3 turns after
~no fire jutsu 3 turns after
~once per battle
~the dome forms quickly so if the opponent is in middle of a jutsu and does not realize the dome is forming it is very hard to dodge

(jbtw the no earth and fire take affect after the dome is destroyed so it would have to take one full turn meaning my second jutsu next turn and since i am not using a third it would be my third jutsu)

meh you tool out the chance i had to ko with that stupid genjutsu
you turn

 

[Caliburn]

Hasashi...where did you get the idea the Time Frame rule was removed?

It hasn't been removed

You have to defend against the first jutsu instead of trying to cancel the opponent's entire move with just one jutsu.

I can guarantee you it's still there.

 

[Kiwii]

eh not really sure why you would use the genjutsu since you would have to do it after i already started genjutsu are either created with

sight, sound, or a hand seals being that you dont have sharringan then it isn't sight you didn't say you wistled so yeah

so i am asuming hand seals

as soon as you appear i activate byakugan
as you thrust out your hand
(A. they took out the time frame rule
B. this wouldn't even break it b/c you already started your move)

and if you are gonna say i cant do this i simply bite my lower lip drawing blood (hence pain) breaking out of the genjutsu (this would barely slow down my hand signs it would be a fraction of a second and my hand signs are tops a few fractions of a second)

(Katon: Goenkyu) - Fire Style: Blaze Ball
Rank: B
Type: Offense
Range: Short/Long
Chakra Cost: 20
Damage Points: 40
Description: The user exhales a meteor-sized sphere of fire that carries the enemy away and causes a massive explosion on impact.

i complete the hand signs b4 you can use your genjutsu (my hand signs are a lot faster being that i am higer rank)

then as you use a jutsu to stop the fire+wind combo i use


earth style: death trap (doton: zetsumei kansei)
rank: S
type: attack
range: short-mid
chakra: 40
damage: 80
description: the user will slam his hands on the ground and the earth around the opponent will come up and trap then in a dome of earth (with about 6 inches of room) the dome is special if the opponent attacks the walls of the dome they will instantly shatter and earth spikes will shoot out of the wall spewing the opponent all over however the entire after the dome is formed the user focuses his fire chakra into the dome so if the opponent doesn't attack the walls after 1 turn the walls will melt to lava and burn the opponent
~no earth jutsu for 3 turns after
~no fire jutsu 3 turns after
~once per battle
~the dome forms quickly so if the opponent is in middle of a jutsu and does not realize the dome is forming it is very hard to dodge

(jbtw the no earth and fire take affect after the dome is destroyed so it would have to take one full turn meaning my second jutsu next turn and since i am not using a third it would be my third jutsu)

meh you tool out the chance i had to ko with that stupid genjutsu
you turn

The latest battle i've seen ended this way, I don't see why our's can't end aswell.

You can't use the fire jutsu when you did, so that move is unvalid.

If you indeed decide to create the jutsu after I release the gust, then the genjutsu takes effect by the second handseal (or third , since you're the almighty handsealer) and the shock wave locks your muscles and prevents your counter attack before the ants hit you.

As soon as they do, they stick themselves to your body through their fangs or with their sting. The latest injects your body with poison, wich right way:

- releases an even stronger pain wave throughout your body
- get's you into an anafilatic shock

But before you have time to react, they boom on you.

Ant Bomb Technique ( Ami Bakudan no Jutsu )

Spoiler

Rank: C
Range: Short-Long
Chakra Cost: 15
Damage Points: 30
Description: A variation of (Hachi Bakudan No Jutsu) - Bee Bomb Technique, where the user detonates ants upon contact. The ants release a squeeze of poison instead of wax, which can have devastating effects on mouth, nose, eyes or open wounds, but don't really do anything on the user skin.

Bye bye. For bio sake reasons, I allow you to merely survive the burning, and the anafilatic shock, and the blast power, in order to cure yourself in the hospital, but that move is pretty much deaddly.

 

[~Hasashi~]

The latest battle i've seen ended this way, I don't see why our's can't end aswell.

You can't use the fire jutsu when you did, so that move is unvalid.

If you indeed decide to create the jutsu after I release the gust, then the genjutsu takes effect by the second handseal (or third , since you're the almighty handsealer) and the shock wave locks your muscles and prevents your counter attack before the ants hit you.

As soon as they do, they stick themselves to your body through their fangs or with their sting. The latest injects your body with poison, wich right way:

- releases an even stronger pain wave throughout your body
- get's you into an anafilatic shock

But before you have time to react, they boom on you.

Ant Bomb Technique ( Ami Bakudan no Jutsu )

Spoiler

Rank: C
Range: Short-Long
Chakra Cost: 15
Damage Points: 30
Description: A variation of (Hachi Bakudan No Jutsu) - Bee Bomb Technique, where the user detonates ants upon contact. The ants release a squeeze of poison instead of wax, which can have devastating effects on mouth, nose, eyes or open wounds, but don't really do anything on the user skin.

Bye bye. For bio sake reasons, I allow you to merely survive the burning, and the anafilatic shock, and the blast power, in order to cure yourself in the hospital, but that move is pretty much deaddly.

eh a few things

1. they did take out the rule grimm apologized for it and it isn't there anymore so yeah i can use it

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2. i said as you thrust your hands out we saw sasuke use a regular fire ball at gennin and it took him maybe three seconds to complete the hand signs i am sage rank (in posts) it would take the most a second to do the signs so it would be just as your wind is released

3. if you are going to INSIST that you genjutsu happens i dont see how it would effect someone of a higher rank or really anyone at all it causes a few slight pains yay but ninja fight battles with swords in their stomachs (sakura) and other major injuries i dont see how small pains would stop anyone from making hand signs

4. you didn't block the fire jutsu or the dome which by now completely burns your already fried body

5. i win

 

[~Hasashi~]

Hasashi...where did you get the idea the Time Frame rule was removed?

It hasn't been removed



I can guarantee you it's still there.

that doesn't say i cant start my jutsu when he has already started his

and i can see chakra although i cant see chara kinds i can see his focusing chakra and i do know the wind jutsu and i can determine what jutsu he is using by how much chakra he is focusing where he is focusing it how he is moving so i can guess what jutsu he is going to use and counter plus the bugs and out of all elements the bugs would only survive combined with a wind jutsu (fire would burn lightning destroy water drown and he cant combine them with earth very well) so all i did was the sensible thing to do the rule doesn't say i have to wait for him to use his jutsu it only says that i have to counter it

plus this jutsu is a very good jutsu to use against most wind jutsu and the ones where you only have to put out your arm are 2 (i believe) and they are B and C ranked so my jutsu would win either one of them

 

[~Hasashi~]

alright ignore my lasts to posts somewhat

i talked to riku who talked to rei who said that the time rule even though it doesn't say it clearly anymore still has time involved in it (according to the rule i did nothing wrong so i would like a redo based on that)

but on your jutsu how would slight spasms stop me from doing hand seals? you cant tell me what to do i can continue with or without pain plus i would have started b4 you could start yours so either yours would start at the end of mine or the would happen at the same time meaning mine would work

(being that the time frame rule makes me do my jutsu after you finish yours)

 

[Kiwii]

Ok, then, do you know how does a Genjutsu work? It affects your chakra system that runs through your brain, and thus changing something that you see, smell, sense, ear or taste. It affects the 5 senses.
The description of the jutsu is: Does something and when that happens the user stops making handseals. In a similair jutsu, the opponent stops making handseals to scratch the nose. It juts happens, its the effect of the Genjutsu. In your case, a pain, even little (although hair wax isn't little), creates a spasm. The spasms of pain lock the muscles, even just for a little bit. Women feel it, and they only remove one bandage. You kinda remove all the hairs of your body. What prevents you from doing handseals and thus blocking my attack before it reaches you (Wind it's duper quick), it's that little spasm of pain that went throughout your body.

You start making handseals at the same time as I do. You have to do more handseals then me, much more. Which means that when I activate the genjutsu, you still haven't done the fireball jutsu, and thus you receive everything.

I'm sorry. This is a tournament, and you're a Sage. You should've known better. I don't think I'll be allowed a redo after I mess up like you did. I don't allow a re-do, unless a Rp Mod or Nexus make me do it.

 

[Caliburn]

1: The Time Frame rule hasn't been removed, that post from Grimm was made three months ago + he didn't said that he removed the rule, he just changed it. You can clearly see that it's still present in the rules.

2: I agree with Kiwii that when he uses his genjutsu it will slow down your movement, even if it is for a second. Even a sage just can't ignore when all his hairs get waxed. No matter how much pain you can indure, you will slow down just by the surprise itself.

3: Though honestly said I'm wondering if Kiwii isn't breaking the Time Frame rule itself as he uses a wind-jutsu and then a genjutsu = 2 moves. No matter how fast you can cast it, the opponent has to release his first jutsu:

You have to defend against the first jutsu instead of trying to cancel the opponent's entire move with just one jutsu.

The problem is that the genjutsu is specifically based on a movement of the opponent itself. You need to have Nexus or one of the RP mods judgement about that.

4: Hasashi you are really making it confusing as you're saying what you do when you would be in a genjutsu and when not. If you're going to bite your lip while your hairs are being waxed, that will take some seconds (as a result of the spasm). Then you're probably hit by the wind.

My opinion, for a final judgement you need Nexus and nobody else (it's his tournament). For better opinions ask the RP-mods.

 

[~Hasashi~]

ok also i believe this jutsu requires you to keep your arm out thrusted until it ends so you could not begin your second jutsu until you were finished with your first furthermore according to the time frame rule i believe i would have time to preform hand signs while you cast the genjutsu (we saw kakashi make like 10 seals in a second i am making like 4 and my hand seals (based on rank) are supposed to be faster then his so i can probably get my whole jutsu done before you can cast your genjutsu)

 

[Kiwii]

ok also i believe this jutsu requires you to keep your arm out thrusted until it ends so you could not begin your second jutsu until you were finished with your first furthermore according to the time frame rule i believe i would have time to preform hand signs while you cast the genjutsu (we saw kakashi make like 10 seals in a second i am making like 4 and my hand seals (based on rank) are supposed to be faster then his so i can probably get my whole jutsu done before you can cast your genjutsu)

The jutsu doesn't even require the hand lifted, I did it for the show. And in truth, I only need to release less that half second of jutsu to get the effects I desire. That first part is just no.

The difference between our ranks isn't that big, Hasashi, and I'm from the opinion that says that after a certain speed you can't surpass. But pure physics, you have your arms droping along the body. As soon as I see you lifting them, to preform the handseals, I quickly do the jutsu, which requires close to nothing, less that your jutsu. The said speed of kakashi, which is a Jounin, S Rank maybe, is worse than mine, because I'm a Sannin (just ifyou want to play that card). So by the time you join your hands together, you're already under the genjutsu, and so you get waxed as you try to do the second, no matter how fast you are.

 

[~Hasashi~]

actually it does :| you need to keep your hands up the entire time its the jutsu that the guy used in the forest of death

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and i know your jutsu is uber fast but so are my hand signs (which aren't many

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58 seconds into it)

that was in like less then half a second which is all the time i need so my jutsu would work :|

 

[Kiwii]

actually it does :| you need to keep your hands up the entire time its the jutsu that the guy used in the forest of death

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and i know your jutsu is uber fast but so are my hand signs (which aren't many

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58 seconds into it)

that was in like less then half a second which is all the time i need so my jutsu would work :|

It's different. A game from the series. There's no comparison. You have to take a fireball jutsu and add it more seals. We've seen low level fireballs, and even Itachi spend more than that time to do it.

I don't know why are you still arguing...

 

[Kiwii]

Sunday Nexus is going to check the fights. If he says you're move is allowed, then I'll post a counter.

 

[~Hasashi~]

-__- that is the worst argument basis ever

yes i know in a game things are different but in the game the fire style technique the earth is turned to lava instantly though in the manga it wouldn't happen like that but we use it like that same thing in the manga the hand signs would be a bit slower but they would still be fast probably fast enough to stop your jutsu (sasuke was able to get naruto and sakura bring them to safety b4 the blast could get him with only level one curse seal released and we know that doesn't give insane speed though it does boost it so for me to do a few hand signs does make sense)

 

[Nexus]

u are both disqualified