Sarutobi is actually pretty OP

[SageOfTheTenPaths]

We have to admit that, Orochimaru was so scared of him he didn't even want to face him 1v1. Instead he used Edo's.
If it weren't for the Edo's Hiruzen would have neg-diffen Orochimaru. This is a 70 year old Hiruzen remember.
In his 30s Hiruzen would match even Hashirama, no hype, just fact. Hashirama would probably win in the end due to his massive chakra levels, but Hiruzen alongside Enma is definitely on his level.

No one except Hashirama & Madara could handle Hiruzen in his 30s i think.

 

[BLAZE]

Cool Beans

 

[TRE MERCER]

Hiruzen is fodder.

 

[AlphaMaleLion]

Hiruzen is strong i know, but Hashirama and Madara were tiers above Prime Hiruzen.... I think Tobirama was above him too. Minato vs Prime Hiruzen is debatable...

I agree with your other statement, that he would wreck Orochimaru.

 

[Tennis Robot]

Kisame has the perfect counter for the Neutralizer.

 

[Venomous Cobra]

Totally agree, the underrating of hiruzen in this site is ridiculous .

But anyway haters gonna hate

 

[SageOfTheTenPaths]

Totally agree, the underrating of hiruzen in this site is ridiculous .

But anyway haters gonna hate

Yeah, i don't understand why. It's even mangafax.

 

[bsims08]

I don't count Part 1 facts and how did he help anybody in the war?

 

[Psy]

Nagato would win. Preta Path takes anything Hiruzen has.

 

[SnakeSkinBlade]

He's not the God of Shinobi for nothing. Oh wait, there are others...

 

[Eternal Sage]

He's a hokage that isn't named tsunade, what did you expect?

 

[Demonic.]

I'm sure he was pretty OP in his time, but that was when monsters like Madara and Hashirama weren't around

 

[SageOfTheTenPaths]

I'm sure he was pretty OP in his time, but that was when monsters like Madara and Hashirama weren't around

Well, Hiruzen was trained by Hashirama himself so.. He's a monster too.

 

[Hori]

I don't count Part 1 facts and how did he help anybody in the war?

1. Helped Naruto when god tree soloed him
2. Helped SA and defended them from spiral Zetsu attack.

 

[Venomous Cobra]

I don't count Part 1 facts and how did he help anybody in the war?

The most stupid thing heard for a while lol , you do realize that the manga has no shippuden in it right ? It's all called "naruto" so if you going by MANGA facts then you should consider part 1 too

 

[SageOfTheTenPaths]

The most stupid thing heard for a while lol , you do realize that the manga has no shippuden in it right ? It's all called "naruto" so if you going by MANGA facts then you should consider part 1 too

People have short term memories. Of course part 1 is manga facts!

 

[Ryóma]

Orochimaru is kind of weak.

 

[ᖇ α z m α η]

1. Helped Naruto when god tree soloed him
2. Helped SA and defended them from spiral Zetsu attack.

Agreed, Include 'Four red yang formation' .​

 

[Naruto X Hunter]

I think you're underestimating Orochimaru.He used the Kages as entertainment for himself to mess with Hiruzen not cause he was scared.Infact he knew Hiruzen was weak compared to his earlier years.He was fully confident in trolling Hiruzen,and thought it would be enjoyable.

What he didn't expect was for Hiruzen to use a Jutsu he had never seen - The Repear Death Seal.Which was why Orochimaru lost.

 

[Ansatsuken]

Hiruzen just a glass cannon