Uchiha Sasuke Dōjutsu

[Benjamin King]

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I'm often seeing that Sasuke's eye is somehow stronger than the standard Rinnegan, because it contains tomoe and looks identical to the Juubi's eye. This is why I am making this thread; in order to clear up the misconception going on around here.

First off, it is not ''Sharinnegan'' as fan-fiction claims, it is Rinnegan. [

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] as manga states. The original Rinnegan, of course, is this

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. It had unique powers applicable to the Rinnegan - Kaguya's dimensions and alteration - and it also had the Sharingan powers in it, that's why it has tomoes.

Second off, this leads to the standard Rinnegan and its origins. Like I said in my original theory, the standard Rinnegan is something mutated from Juubi's eye and not something devolved from it. Fan-fiction claims that Hagoromo inherited the Rinnegan from Kaguya's Rinnegan, but that's not true. Black Zetsu states that Hagoromo awoke it:

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This means the standard Rinnegan isn't something inherited or came from Kaguya's Rinnegan. So, what is it? We don't know what it is, but we know it requires the merging of Indra's power and Ashura's power together:

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Going back to Sasuke's Rinnegan, it stems from Hagoromo's Yin power as he gave it to Sasuke and it transformed to Rinnegan:

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In order to awake Hagoromo's Rinnegan, you need the Yin of Indra and the Yang of Ashura; which Sasuke only has half of the requirement. Thus, his Rinnegan cannot possibly be stronger than the standard Rinnegan or the original Rinnegan.

Summary:

• Sasuke's Rinnegan is not stronger than standard Rinnegan, as it only possess half of the requirement.
• The original Rinnegan is Juubi's eye.
• The standard Rinnegan is awoke by somehow instead of inherited from Kaguya's Rinnegan.

 

[AlphaMaleLion]

I agree with your thread

 

[Otibo]

I agree with this thread

 

[BLAZE]

Sasuke's One Rinnegan CT with Nine Bijuus Was impressive for any single Rinnegan user and His Rinnegan Genjutsu was something no other Rinnegan user has shown btw :|

 

[Benjamin King]

Sasuke's One Rinnegan CT with Nine Bijuus Was impressive for any single Rinnegan user and His Rinnegan Genjutsu was something no other Rinnegan user has shown btw :|

You're stating your opinion which isn't a fact. You're not arguing the point.​

 

[KisuneUchiha]

Sasuke's One Rinnegan CT with Nine Bijuus Was impressive for any single Rinnegan user and His Rinnegan Genjutsu was something no other Rinnegan user has shown btw :|

He used something that only people with 2 Rinnegan could do with his so called weaker version

 

[BLAZE]

You're stating your opinion which isn't a fact. You're not arguing the point.​

Then i believe u can provide me with at least one genjutsu feat of Non tomoe Rinnegan

 

[Benjamin King]

Then i believe u can provide me with at least one genjutsu feat of Non tomoe Rinnegan

Where did I claim this?​

 

[Torche]

The only real difference that I see is Sasuke can still use Amaterasu, Genjutsu and there is that Teleportation too. But, Madara's has Limbo; each Rinnegan likely has one unique ability.

In short, Sasuke's can still use the full potential of the Sharingan's power at the same time as the Rinnegan's. Susano'o isn't a variable as it comes from brain chakra.

 

[Alfred Pennyworth]

didn't both of them received hagoromo's chakra ?

If sasuke used that chakra to awaken rinnegan , the reason it has tomoes is probably because he has a huge excess of indra chakra and an excess of yin chakra.

btw hagoromo implied what kaguya has is a sharingan, not a rinnegan

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[Blunt]

This should be obvious, Sasuke's Rinnegan isn't as powerful as the standard purple one, but people like to wank Sasuke to the extreme. If anything, the two eyes are equal at the very most.

The only thing I see his eye having over Madara's or Hagoromo's is the ability to use Sharingan jutsu, but the benefits of the standard Rinnegan also stack up.

 

[Unorthodox]

This should be obvious, Sasuke's Rinnegan isn't as powerful as the standard purple one, but people like to wank Sasuke to the extreme. If anything, the two eyes are equal at the very most.

get slaped we degrade sasuke overall power his rinnegan vs any anyother he wins he made 9 orbless cts he can teleport and has genjutsu

also chibaku tensei only weakness was an orb without its makes it pretty much haxx af

 

[Vetox]

Sasuke's rinnegan seems close to the Juubi's eye and hence most people believe it is stronger.

Its most probably just the same. No feats to suggest it is stronger OR weaker.

 

[Frikid]

Sasuke's Rinnegan is powerful than the regular one.

He has shown to use genjutsu from his sharinnegan, yes i said it, sharinnegan.
Regular rinnegan was never capable of this feat.
It not only effected all the nine bijju with just one glance, even hagoromo was surprised of it.

Moreover, sasuke did a juubi jin level CT with it which nagato,madara,obito could never do. In fact, Madara could only do it after having both set of eyes while sasuke did it with just one sharinnegan eye which itself proves its superiority over rinnegan.

It is you who is under the misconception that it was hagoromo who gave him the sharinnegan, he can't give him something he does not have Lol.
Unless you can prove it was handed to him, this is still debatable and you can't come to such conclusions.

Edit : moving on, Sasuke indeed have all the requirements to get the sharinnegan on his own which are , a near death experience and both ashura and indra's chakra.
Naruto gave him his chakra long before and he still some essence of it.
Hashirama gave him his SM chakra.
Kabuto pumped hashi's dna into him.

All of this results in one conclusion that he indeed have ashura's chakra in him.

Moreover, Sage himself gave him his own chakra and the fusion of ashura and indra's chakra ultimately leads to him having hagoromo's chakra. So it got it either way.
In fact he got not only indra's chakra but ashura's chakra and hagoromo chakra.

We know he already have a near death experience which is why he was teleported to hagoromo's dimension.

He met all requirements to obtain the rinnegan on his own.

 

[Torche]

get slaped we degrade sasuke overall power his rinnegan vs any anyother he wins he made 9 cts he can teleport and has genjutsu

Tbh, logically it should be weaker than two Rinnegan. "The true power only comes when both eyes are in the original wielder."

 

[Benjamin King]

didn't both of them received hagoromo's chakra ?

If sasuke used that chakra to awaken rinnegan , the reason it has tomoes is probably because he has a huge excess of indra chakra and an excess of yin chakra.

btw hagoromo implied what kaguya has is a sharingan, not a rinnegan

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Hagoromo's Chakra is composed of Indra's Chakra and Ashura's Chakra. Madara has both composition, Sasuke only has one. If Sasuke takes Naruto's Chakra and merges it with his own, he would get a Rinnegan like Hagoromo's and Madara's. The fact he lacks the other composition shows his Rinnegan is incomplete.

He didn't imply nor say it's Sharingan. He said it has the Sharingan power, not that the eye itself is Sharingan.​

The only real difference that I see is Sasuke can still use Amaterasu, Genjutsu and there is that Teleportation too. But, Madara's has Limbo; each Rinnegan likely has one unique ability.

In short, Sasuke's can still use the full potential of the Sharingan's power at the same time as the Rinnegan's. Susano'o isn't a variable as it comes from brain chakra.

He can't use the Rinnegan's full potential for 2 reasons:

1). He's not the original wielder nor its an eye he woke.
2). You need two eyes.​

 

[BLAZE]

Where did I claim this?​

My first post was meant show the edge it has but u said it was my opinion hence the second post btw

Going back to Sasuke's Rinnegan, it stems from Hagoromo's Yin power as he gave it to Sasuke and it transformed to Rinnegan:

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In order to awake Hagoromo's Rinnegan, you need the Yin of Indra and the Yang of Ashura; which Sasuke only has half of the requirement. Thus, his Rinnegan cannot possibly be stronger than the standard Rinnegan or the original Rinnegan.

Summary:

• Sasuke's Rinnegan is not stronger than standard Rinnegan, as it only possess half of the requirement.
• The original Rinnegan is Juubi's eye.
• The standard Rinnegan is awoke by somehow instead of inherited from Kaguya's Rinnegan.

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  Nowhere stated.U only need to awaken Hogoromo's chakra which Sasuke has.Also Hashirama gave sasuke his remaining chakra
  if his Rinnegan can perform standard Rinnegan techs alongside genjutsu and S/T ninjutsu then it has an edge

 

[Torche]

Hagoromo's Chakra is composed of Indra's Chakra and Ashura's Chakra. Madara has both composition, Sasuke only has one. If Sasuke takes Naruto's Chakra and merges it with his own, he would get a Rinnegan like Hagoromo's and Madara's. The fact he lacks the other composition shows his Rinnegan is incomplete.

He didn't imply nor say it's Sharingan. He said it has the Sharingan power, not that the eye itself is Sharingan.​

He can't use the Rinnegan's full potential for 2 reasons:

1). He's not the original wielder nor its an eye he woke.
2). You need two eyes.​

I know that, I even said that above you. Lol I meant he can use the Sharingan's full power, while using the Rinnegan's power. I didn't mean full power of the Rinnegan.

 

[Unorthodox]

Sasuke's rinnegan seems close to the Juubi's eye and hence most people believe it is stronger.

Its most probably just the same. No feats to suggest it is stronger OR weaker.

9 orbless chibaku tensei's, teleportation, And genjutsu that requires no eye contact proves otherwise

 

[Unorthodox]

He can't use the Rinnegan's full potential for 2 reasons:

1). He's not the original wielder nor its an eye he woke.
2). You need two eyes.[/indent][/FONT]

yet he made orbless chibaku tensei's also has rinnegan genjutsu he only has 1 eye because tomoe rinnegan isnt a pair its always just one