Sasuke's Sharinnegan > Hagoromo's Rinnegan?

[Minator93]

Sasuke fans :leaf:

Madara's Single Rinnegan >>>> Sasuke's Rinnegan.

 

[Naruto X Hunter]

So the lack of it having a black orb makes Sasuke's rinnegan better than Madara's? Even with no feats of it being better in anyway?
Ok, you can think whatever you want then.
And Like I said before, Madara and Obito where both able to use their Sharingan powers with the rinnegan.

Earlier you were saying his new eye couldn't use his Sharingans powers,and said it was just like the normal Rinnegan.

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Now that you've realized that you are wrong you're saying that Madara and Obito could use their MS powers with their Rinnegan.

1)Obito had 1 Rinnegan and 1 Sharingan - with the Sharingan he used his MS powers.

2)Madara only used Susano'o with Rinnegan which can also be done with no eyes.

Sasuke's CT wasn't as larger of a scale of Madaras but thats cause he clearly didn't want it to be.His aim was to capture the Bijuu which he did with ease,not drop meteors on them.

Madara used Black orbs to bring everything toward it,then launched it it his targets.Sasuke used the target itself as the core bringing everything to it.

Thats clearly better than using Orbs.

 

[Gagster]

Earlier you were saying his new eye couldn't use his Sharingans powers,and said it was just like the normal Rinnegan.

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Now that you've realized that you are wrong you're saying that Madara and Obito could use their MS powers with their Rinnegan.

1)Obito had 1 Rinnegan and 1 Sharingan - with the Sharingan he used his MS powers.

2)Madara only used Susano'o with Rinnegan which can also be done with no eyes.

Sasuke's CT wasn't as larger of a scale of Madaras but thats cause he clearly didn't want it to be.His aim was to capture the Bijuu which he did with ease,not drop meteors on them.

Madara used Black orbs to bring everything toward it,then launched it it his targets.Sasuke used the target itself as the core bringing everything to it.

Thats clearly better than using Orbs.

You're lying. I said just like Madara and Obito. who, like Sasuke, had 1 rinnegan and 1 Sharingan. They still used Sharingan powers they had, kamui/susanoo.

And What makes you so sure it is? It has no feats of capturing a mobile target like Nagato's CT.

 

[Naruto X Hunter]

so all you have is Hagoromo stating Sasuke having put the bijuu under a genjutsu in a single glance, and i'm just supposed to accept that it's better than Madara undeniably defeating and sealing the same bijuu with the same amount of eyes? Yeah, that logic isn't flawless at all.

If all you got to hang your hat on is some cliche "stay salty" line, it tells me you had nothing better to resort to using a third grader's insulting ability because you couldn't supply something that was undeniable. Madara defeating the bijuu and sealing them with no room for debate is actual proof. Using a genjutsu feat is hardly that impressive, considering Madara and Obito already genjutsu'd a bijuu with a lesser eye. Sasuke is just the last one to the party, same as usual. It's hardly anything to get salty over, especially because half of Kurama could still resist it.

Hahahahahaha,are you seroius? He caught the 9 most powerful creatures on earth with the most chakra (minus juubi) with a Single glance easily and you say that wasn't impressive? Even the Sage was surprised.You even compared it to Madara and Obito who only got ONE bijuu.

So Madara and Obito getting the Kyuubi is more impressive than Sasuke getting all nine easily?

This is why i called you biased - you say stuff like that.

"Sasuke was the last to the party as usual"

Lmao yeah,catching Bijuus are so easy and Sasuke was the last person to do it so its not impressive,lets also ignore how he caught all nine with only a glance.Lmao

Also go back to each of those chapters for Tobi its i think 503 and Madara its 568 - they both looked like they had to put in work to get the Kyuubi.You can see viens in their eyes and they're even using a hand seal probably to gather chakra/focuses whereas Sasuke caught ALL NINE Bijuu with a glance Neg Diff.

While your at it go to chapter 309 the Kyuubi himself compares Sasuke to Madara and said Sasukes eyes and chakra are more sinister than his own.So its very plausible that 3 Tomoe Sharingan Sasuke could of controlled the Kyuubi if he wanted.Well thats unless you don't believe the Kyuubi.

 

[Dragon Master]

Hagoromo's CT >>> Sasuke's CT

 

[WalksInShadows]

yeah, not gonna bother reading. It probably is gonna go something like

Sasuke hasn't shown feats or Sasuke doesn't have any hype behind him. No sh** sherlock. Its a doujutsu that has never been showcased and Sasuke just now adapted to it.

If that is what you r aiming for then you r just a cynic that will still deny even when it is shown in manga. Since I am not up to wasting my time I will see myself out.

see yourself out then. You already contradicted yourself saying you won't waste your time, but you had plenty enough to waste in typing all of this. It's the same logic i'd expect from someone of your ilk.

Hahahahahaha,are you seroius? He caught the 9 most powerful creatures on earth with the most chakra (minus juubi) with a Single glance easily and you say that wasn't impressive? Even the Sage was surprised.You even compared it to Madara and Obito who only got ONE bijuu.

So Madara and Obito getting the Kyuubi is more impressive than Sasuke getting all nine easily?

if you can read and understand English, i never said anything of the sort that Madara and Obito ever genjutsu'd all 9, hence why i said "a bijuu". I don't even know why you decided to get so bent out of shape about it.

This is why i called you biased - you say stuff like that.

"Sasuke was the last to the party as usual"

Lmao yeah,catching Bijuus are so easy and Sasuke was the last person to do it so its not impressive,lets also ignore how he caught all nine with only a glance.Lmao

is Sasuke not the last person to genjutsu a bijuu after it's been done before?

Also go back to each of those chapters for Tobi its i think 503 and Madara its 568 - they both looked like they had to put in work to get the Kyuubi.You can see viens in their eyes and they're even using a hand seal probably to gather chakra/focuses whereas Sasuke caught ALL NINE Bijuu with a glance Neg Diff.

see, this is a major problem with Sasuke homers. They piss, moan, and everything under the sun about ppl downplaying Sasuke, but they make every effort like you just did to downplay the feats of others in order to hype Sasuke's up.

While your at it go to chapter 309 the Kyuubi himself compares Sasuke to Madara and said Sasukes eyes and chakra are more sinister than his own.So its very plausible that 3 Tomoe Sharingan Sasuke could of controlled the Kyuubi if he wanted.Well thats unless you don't believe the Kyuubi.

Obito already showed it was possible, but nothing says it was possible for Sasuke to do it just because he managed to subdue a fraction of Kurama that was in Naruto. Madara and Obito completely controlled a Kurama that wasn't separated into doing their bidding. When did Sasuke ever do that, tell me? Immobilizing a bijuu is hardly the same thing as making a bijuu do w/e you want them to. Let me know when Sasuke gets in that league.

 

[legarcon]

No butthurt intended,

I was thinking, Hagoromo's Rinnegan is like a watered down Sharinnegan from Kaguya.

Or he inherited from the Ten Tails.

Discuss please?

i think you´re missing the fact hagoromo gave the powerup to sasuke, he couldnt have given sasuke something he didnt have, so no sasuke´s rinnegan is not stronger than hagoromo´s

 

[Holy God]

i think you´re missing the fact hagoromo gave the powerup to sasuke, he couldnt have given sasuke something he didnt have, so no sasuke´s rinnegan is not stronger than hagoromo´s

No he didn't. Sasuke's is a mixture of his own yin, Hashirama's yang, and Hagoromo's yin. So he did have a part in it, but even without his help, Sasuke would still have the normal Rinnegan. Sasuke's is better.

 

[Naruto X Hunter]

You're lying. I said just like Madara and Obito. who, like Sasuke, had 1 rinnegan and 1 Sharingan. They still used Sharingan powers they had, kamui/susanoo.

And What makes you so sure it is? It has no feats of capturing a mobile target like Nagato's CT.

Why deos everything need to be shown? Why not apply logic.If he caught ALL the Bijuu with CT,while having them ALL under his control with Genjutsu (more chakra usage) easily,then is it hard to believe he could of caught even 1 with just CT? and earlier you were making it seem as if Sasukes new eye couldn't he use Sharingan powers - thats been proven wrong.

The idea of a sharinnegan is fanfiction. Sasuke just has 1 regular rinnegan eye, the tomoes have no purpose what so ever.
And manga facts proves 2 rinnegan > 1.

Regular Rinnegan = No Sharingan powers. You saying the tomoes have no purpose whatsoever implies that his new eye has no Sharingan powers.

I countered that in my next comment and THEN you mention Obito and Madara,once you realized you were wrong.

The eye has all the Sharingan powers.He can still predict movements,cast Genjutsu,use Amaterasu,and Susano'o,and with his one Sharingan + Rinnegan eye he was already shown to be able to use CT better than Nagato and Madara who had two normal Rinnegans.

For CT,they uses Black Orbs as the core,whereas Sasuke uses the targets as the core.Also they have not casted Genjutsu with their normal Rinnegan.Madara only casted the IT with the Third Eye.

Just like Obito and Madara.

 

[Naruto X Hunter]

Hagoromo's CT >>> Sasuke's CT

This already been covered.The Sage was the Jin when he created the Moon with CT.The Sharingan + Rinnegan Eye is better than the Rinnegan eye.

The user (Sage) is stronger but Sasuke's eye is more advanced.Unless you believe that an eye with both Sharingan and Rinnegans powers is weaker than one with only the Rinnegan.....
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[legarcon]

No he didn't. Sasuke's is a mixture of his own yin, Hashirama's yang, and Hagoromo's yin. So he did have a part in it, but even without his help, Sasuke would still have the normal Rinnegan. Sasuke's is better.

no i dont think so, besides we´re only talking about rinnegan, if we talk about the other abilities as a whole hagoromo beats him, because hagoromo was the father of indra and ashura so hagoromo has the dna of both which is superior to the energy of hashirama when he was no longer an ashura reincarnate

 

[Gagster]

Why deos everything need to be shown? Why not apply logic.If he caught ALL the Bijuu with CT,while having them ALL under his control with Genjutsu (more chakra usage) easily,then is it hard to believe he could of caught even 1 with just CT? and earlier you were making it seem as if Sasukes new eye couldn't he use Sharingan powers - thats been proven wrong.



Regular Rinnegan = No Sharingan powers. You saying the tomoes have no purpose whatsoever implies that his new eye has no Sharingan powers.

I countered that in my next comment and THEN you mention Obito and Madara,once you realized you were wrong.

Even though Madara has shown Sharingan powers with the rinngean you still believe that?

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Even Obito used Kamui when he had a rinnegan. So what's the difference between Sasuke's rinnegan and Madara's? Everyone in the manga has called it a rinnegan, but you still think there's a difference somehow.

 

[Naruto X Hunter]

see yourself out then. You already contradicted yourself saying you won't waste your time, but you had plenty enough to waste in typing all of this. It's the same logic i'd expect from someone of your ilk.


if you can read and understand English, i never said anything of the sort that Madara and Obito ever genjutsu'd all 9, hence why i said "a bijuu". I don't even know why you decided to get so bent out of shape about it.
is Sasuke not the last person to genjutsu a bijuu after it's been done before?

see, this is a major problem with Sasuke homers. They piss, moan, and everything under the sun about ppl downplaying Sasuke, but they make every effort like you just did to downplay the feats of others in order to hype Sasuke's up.

Obito already showed it was possible, but nothing says it was possible for Sasuke to do it just because he managed to subdue a fraction of Kurama that was in Naruto. Madara and Obito completely controlled a Kurama that wasn't separated into doing their bidding. When did Sasuke ever do that, tell me? Immobilizing a bijuu is hardly the same thing as making a bijuu do w/e you want them to. Let me know when Sasuke gets in that league.

-Reread my comment.You're one to talk.I never said that you did.I was just pionting out that you compared Madara and Obitos feat of one Bijuu to Sasuke's 9,and acted like that was more impressive.

-You're assuming that im mad simply because i disagreed with you.Stay on topic and stop imagining things.

" Sasuke is just the last one to the party, same as usual. It's hardly anything to get salty over, especially because half of Kurama could still resist it."

You mention him being last as in attempt at downplaying him.Why even say that? Yes he is last,so? Hes also the firsf to catch all nine with just a glance.When people say someone is last to the party its usually like an insult as in they're late whereas everyones already been there and done that.

Also you downplayers make a big deal out of the Kyuubi being able to speak. four or five words to Naruto for two seconds like thats a big deal.You guys look for anyway go downplay Sasuke.

He had 9 Bijuu in Genjutsu,and ONLY THE LAST was able to speak for TWO SECONDS,while the other EIGHT were under his complete control,yet you love to piont out how the Kyuubi talked for TWO SECONDS.And let me guess you assume that im upset cause im using caps? No,its just to better piont things out.

Surely if Sasuke was only using Genjutsu on the Kyuubi then the Kyuubi wouldn't have been able to speak,but instead he used it on all nine bijuu at the same time.and even then he did it easily so if he was actually seroius then ofcourse he could of gotten the Kyuubi in Genjutsu completely.

Also i was not downplaying Tobi and Madara to hype up Sasuke.I only mentioned them cause you did to downplay Sasuke,and the Kyuubi himself said Sasuke's eyes and chakra are more sinister than his own,and compared him to the man who controlled him.Do you not believe not believe the Kyuubi?

Deos Sasuke have to literally control him for you to believe him? Are his own words from experiencing alittle of Sasukes power not good enough?

 

[Dragon Master]

This already been covered.The Sage was the Jin when he created the Moon with CT.The Sharingan + Rinnegan Eye is better than the Rinnegan eye.

The user (Sage) is stronger but Sasuke's eye is more advanced.Unless you believe that an eye with both Sharingan and Rinnegans powers is weaker than one with only the Rinnegan.....

When he was the Jin? He used CT to seal Gedo Mazo (after dividing the Juubi's chakra).

 

[Holy God]

no i dont think so, besides we´re only talking about rinnegan, if we talk about the other abilities as a whole hagoromo beats him, because hagoromo was the father of indra and ashura so hagoromo has the dna of both which is superior to the energy of hashirama when he was no longer an ashura reincarnate

I wasn't referring to them as entities at all. I was just saying Sasuke's Rinnegan is better.

 

[Naruto X Hunter]

When he was the Jin? He used CT to seal Gedo Mazo (after dividing the Juubi's chakra).

He blasted ths Gedo to the moon after he divided the chakra - he didn't create the moon. 467,15

Even though Madara has shown Sharingan powers with the rinngean you still believe that?

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Even Obito used Kamui when he had a rinnegan. So what's the difference between Sasuke's rinnegan and Madara's? Everyone in the manga has called it a rinnegan, but you still think there's a difference somehow.

I already pionted out how Sasuke and Madara can both use Susano'o with Rinnegan.I was saying that you said Sasuke with his new eye couldn't any Sharingan powers with it,which is why i pionted out how he casted Amaterasu with it which is a MS tech.

Obito had 1 Sharingan and 1 Rinnegan - he used Kamui with his Sharingan eye.

Sasuke has the Sharingan + Rinnegan eye and he has used his Sharingans power with that same eye,not just the other,which proves that he can use his Sharingan powers with his new eye so it deos indeed have more powers thsn a regular Rinnegan.

Its not the exact same as the Regular Rinnegan cause with that same wye the user can use Sharingan powers.

 

[Dragon Master]

He blasted ths Gedo to the moon after he divided the chakra - he didn't create the moon. 467,15

DAT Joke.. Lol

 

[Kakooli]

You're correct, why do you think Hagoromo watched in awe as Sasuke solo'd the beasts and then mentioned that he was out of chakra? Because he knew he was no match for Sasuke.

 

[Dragon Master]

You're correct, why do you think Hagoromo watched in awe as Sasuke solo'd the beasts and then mentioned that he was out of chakra? Because he knew he was no match for Sasuke.

No, Hagoromo is slowly fading away. He doesn't have too much chakra left.

 

[Milliana]

Wow, what a horrid thread.