Sensing Amaterasu does not save FTG users

[Eternal Sage]

Idek why people say Kamui is how obito avoided amaterasu.

We have no proof that it wasn't izanagi

 

[Exaar]

Ok, no.
Degraded vision isn't even a factor, as Sasuke was already focused on Ay when he casted it, and being in V2 and having intel does not matter.
He reacted to it, therefor someone with a reaction rate equal to him(Minato, Tobirama) can dodge it as well.

Didn't bee also kinda of react to Amaterasu by blocking it with the 8tails tentacles. Unless i'm remembering wrong

Minato dodges it neg difficulty.

Yes you need to be natural fast,and Minato is just that along with Tobirama

Dodges Ays full speed like nothin

Makes for sense for him to of warped away the flames than to waste an Eye.

 

[Pumpkin Ninja]

Idek why people say Kamui is how obito avoided amaterasu.

We have no proof that it wasn't izanagi

It was Kamui..........

 

[blazekev90]

You've been doing your homework? I've said this multiple times -_-

The initial use of Amaterasu does have a lag, which allows the opponent to counter effectively. This isn't only ftg users, most shinobi have the ability to do this, as long as they can intercept it. The issue has always been the second + use of amataerau. Though there is still a chakra build up, it's nearly instant from this point on. Does the make it unavoidable? No, as some sensors have automatic sensing. You misinterpreted the scan with Nagato, he was surprised that Itachi was able to break Kabuto's control, not his second use of amataerau.

To counter the following use one must simply; keep themselves sheided, distance themselves, use technique that properly prevent Itachi from having direct eye contact with them, etc.

 

[AlphaScythian]

If Ay can dodge it Minato can dodge it easily.

Minato had over 10m to react to Ay, few inched short he'd eat a punch. Ay has augmented reactions from raiton and dodged it as they say from 2m. Feel the difference

Ok, no.
Degraded vision isn't even a factor, as Sasuke was already focused on Ay when he casted it, and being in V2 and having intel does not matter.
He reacted to it, therefor someone with a reaction rate equal to him(Minato, Tobirama) can dodge it as well.

Like how you know where sasuke has exactly focused? Ofcourse degraded vision is a factor, if sasuke couldnt grap the cup how you suppose to have focal point at right place?
Info counts, Ay may already been about to go, just to avoid anything nasty.

He did dodge it but I feel like people misinterpret this scan.
This isn't showing him moving out of the way before the Amaterasu touches him, it's showing how sasuke activated the release while he still saw ay there, but when it was actually there, he had just moved at incredible speed, so sasuke actually saw the samurai when it was released and that's why he got hit instead.
Which is why sasuke looks around afterwords, he thought he had released it onto ay.

Yes he dodged it but not the instant effect, but the release effect.
It's really hard to explain this with words though.

I think that what op is saying is that if you sense the initial pressure you can activate ftg before they can activate Amaterasu because the activation time is shorter, but if they charge enough for multiple uses, they second activation time is unpredictable and you can't tell when it will be released, and when it is, it's too late.

I agree, i thought Ay was started moving before sasule released it.

lol you sure about that?
Scans say different

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The fact that Minato had way bigger distance to react to Ay doesnt count for anything here?

Minato dodges it neg difficulty.

Yes you need to be natural fast,and Minato is just that along with Tobirama

Dodges Ays full speed like nothin

Yup and old hiruzen lmao

Idek why people say Kamui is how obito avoided amaterasu.

We have no proof that it wasn't izanagi

izanagi it was.

Didn't bee also kinda of react to Amaterasu by blocking it with the 8tails tentacles. Unless i'm remembering wrong



Makes for sense for him to of warped away the flames than to waste an Eye.

No, he was in process of attacking with it.

You've been doing your homework? I've said this multiple times -_-

The initial use of Amaterasu does have lag, which allows the opponent to counter effectively. This isn't only ftg users, most shinobi have the ability to do this, as long as they can intercept it. The issue has always been the second + use of amataerau. Though there is still a chakra build up, it's nearly instant at this from that point on. Does the make it unavoidable? No, some sensors have automatic sensing. You misinterpreted the scan with Nagato, he was surprised that Itachi was able to break Kabuto's control, not his second use of amataerau.

To counter the following use one must simply; keep themselves sheided, distance themselves, use technique that properly prevent Itachi from having direct eye contact with them, etc.

So basically GTFO?
Lol automatic sensing, what about processing of what you sense?

 

[Eternal Sage]

It was Kamui..........

How do you know?

 

[TrollingSage]

They can simply teleport away from amaterasu even if after it hits.

 

[Lightbringer]

The fact that Minato had way bigger distance to react to Ay doesnt count for anything here?

No because it happened in a matter of seconds.....just the same amount of time for amaterasu to charge and cast.

 

[AlphaScythian]

They can simply teleport away from amaterasu even if after it hits.

Based on what?

No because it happened in a matter of seconds.....just the same amount of time for amaterasu to charge and cast.

Errm, seconds is more then enough for FTG, but i dont think that minato would wait until Ay's fist would be 5cm away from him.

Ay's said to be impossible to keep track on, i dont see a single reason why would minato have base reactions to match sharingan precog, its just fan speculation.

The simple answer is that Ay was far away enough for minato to react and FTG away.

 

[TrollingSage]

Based on what?

Based on the fact that Minato teleported out of Obito's chains.

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[AlphaScythian]

Based on the fact that Minato teleported out of Obito's chains.

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Might be his biggest feat :leaf:

 

[Gold Lightning]

Minato already showed that he can FTG out of Amaterasu even after contact is made.

Besides that, Ay already dodged it easily so this thread is meaningless.

 

[AlphaScythian]

Minato already showed that he can FTG out of Amaterasu even after contact is made.

Besides that, Ay already dodged it easily so this thread is meaningless.

He never was targeted by amaterasu

And that proves that Ay's raiton reactions are really good not that minato can dodge it because he once reacted to Ay from mile away.

 

[Lightbringer]

Errm, seconds is more then enough for FTG, but i dont think that minato would wait until Ay's fist would be 5cm away from him.

Ay's said to be impossible to keep track on, i dont see a single reason why would minato have base reactions to match sharingan precog, its just fan speculation.

The simple answer is that Ay was far away enough for minato to react and FTG away.

Probably because it was the most optimal time to catch him off-guard, same as he did to Obito. He attacked just right before he could touch him.

Sasuke couldn't keep up with Bee yet he was able to dodge Itachi's amaterasu.(and don't give that Itachi went easy on him BS, he hit him with it.)

 

[BlazeRelease]

Minato already showed that he can FTG out of Amaterasu even after contact is made.

Besides that, Ay already dodged it easily so this thread is meaningless.

What, you mean teleport without taking the flames with him?
No, because he specifically noted things he's touching are teleported with him, like the onmyoudon was in the recent anime episode.

 

[BlazeRelease]

Probably because it was the most optimal time to catch him off-guard, same as he did to Obito. He attacked just right before he could touch him.

Sasuke couldn't keep up with Bee yet he was able to dodge Itachi's amaterasu.(and don't give that Itachi went easy on him BS, he hit him with it.)

I hope your kidding about sasuke dodging it.

And he already knew that sasuke would substitute it like that, he planned every move of the battle.
He had to make it realistic for sasuke to believe the fight was real, so he hit him after giving him ample time to charge chakra for the very taxing substitution he needed to use.

 

[Lightbringer]

I hope your kidding about sasuke dodging it.

And he already knew that sasuke would substitute it like that, he planned every move of the battle.
He had to make it realistic for sasuke to believe the fight was real, so he hit him after giving him ample time to charge chakra for the very taxing substitution he needed to use.

How did he know Sasuke would substitute out of it? He didn't even know he had Oro-rebirth.

 

[AlphaScythian]

Probably because it was the most optimal time to catch him off-guard, same as he did to Obito. He attacked just right before he could touch him.

Sasuke couldn't keep up with Bee yet he was able to dodge Itachi's amaterasu.(and don't give that Itachi went easy on him BS, he hit him with it.)

It was because otherwise Obito would still be intangible U_U

Sasuke dodged eyes sight he hasnt reacted to spawned amateasu, just not the same

 

[BlazeRelease]

How did he know Sasuke would substitute out of it? He didn't even know he had Oro-rebirth.

Obito said he planned every move of the battle.
It's also reasonable to think he knew of orochimarus jutsu since he knows of him and even planned for the hydra to take place after weakening sasukes reserves with Amaterasu.

Surely you didn't think he was just firing Amaterasu after his precious little brother?

 

[Lightbringer]

It was because otherwise Obito would still be intangible U_U

Sasuke dodged eyes sight he hasnt reacted to spawned amateasu, just not the same

So considering that you're obviously not changing your opinion on the matter, let's just recollect the evidence.

Amaterasu has been dodged before

FTG is instantaneous, meaning he could do what Aye did but even faster.

Minato's reflexes are equal if not better than Aye.