Sasuke views Gokage as a threat?

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He wants the old system gone, and Kages are the representative of the failed system, killing them will send a message, it's more like he want to erase every trace of it and start a new one that he will control and will keep from failing like this one did, can't do that as long as the kages are alive.
 

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If a random dude kills a buffed martial arts master guy's child he would not be a threat to father himself but father would still want him dead.

Kages do not have to be stronger than Sasuke to make him want to eleminate them.
 

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He wants the old system gone, and Kages are the representative of the failed system, killing them will send a message, it's more like he want to erase every trace of it and start a new one that he will control and will keep from failing like this one did, can't do that as long as the kages are alive.

If he wants to completely erase every trace of the whole system he might as well get rid of shinobi.
 

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If a random dude kills a buffed martial arts master guy's child he would not be a threat to father himself but father would still want him dead.

Kages do not have to be stronger than Sasuke to make him want to eleminate them.

I just don't see the point in wanting to take the Kage's out without a legit reason and the only legit reason I see is what someone mentioned earlier about how the kages have more influence over the five villages than Sasuke does. Even if that's true Sasuke seems like the type of person to take over the villages by force not by getting people to listen to him. So if he plans on taking the villages by force the Kages shouldn't be a problem for him. The only person I can see him wanting to kill is Naruto... Unless Sasuke views the Hokages as a threat.
 

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The Kage have the power to do as they see fit in the world. Since the majority of fighting has been caused from Kages themselves, Sasuke believes that killing them off would help in achieving peace.
 

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If he wants to completely erase every trace of the whole system he might as well get rid of shinobi.

No,average shinobi are the ones that follows and are in the system, while Kages are the creaters, leaders and responsible for the system, he obviously can't kill every shinobi although they are in the system they don't represent as much as the kages do, sasuke's taking the more logical and possible way here.
 

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He doesn't need to kill them while they're sleeping to create a new system.

Why would he kill them when they're awake when he wants to fight Naruto? Besides even if they aren't awake they would still get soloed by him so either way they die.
 

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Why would he want Naruto to fight him with everything he's got when he's just trying to get Naruto out of the way?

Sasukes character was never expressive in his persona, it's his way of style

P.S. Killing Naruto is not his plan as i mentioned earlier.
 

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No,average shinobi are the ones that follows and are in the system, while Kages are the creaters, leaders and responsible for the system, he obviously can't kill every shinobi although they are in the system they don't represent as much as the kages do, sasuke's taking the more logical and possible way here.

I can't say that the killing of the Kages to completely erase the system is logical at all. Killing the Hokages won't change the fact that every ninja village would still be at war. Sasuke wants to create peace so logically he would be ending war. If he wants to end war between nations then I don't see the point in having shinobi at all. Yes, he may not have to kill the shinobi to end shinobi but why does he have to kill the hokage unless they are some kind of threat when they don't have power to stop him. Yes, as mentioned earlier the five kages would probably have more influence over the villages than Sasuke, but as the past few chapters indicate Sasuke pretty much plans on doing everything by force so that brings the question back up. Why in the world would he need to kill the Hokage?
 

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Why would he kill them when they're awake when he wants to fight Naruto? Besides even if they aren't awake they would still get soloed by him so either way they die.

Obviously he's going to try and kill the hokage after he fights Naruto. You say he would solo them regardless? If that's the case he doesn't need to kill them at all unless they try and fight him.
 

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Sasukes character was never expressive in his persona, it's his way of style

P.S. Killing Naruto is not his plan as i mentioned earlier.

He's trying to kill Naruto.
 

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Kages can always be replaced , as long as there are people.... So killing doesn't change anything
 

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Kages can always be replaced , as long as there are people.... So killing doesn't change anything

Thats the whole point. Sasuke doesn't want kages in the first place so if he does succeed there wont be multiple kages just 1 ruler.
 

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I can't say that the killing of the Kages to completely erase the system is logical at all. Killing the Hokages won't change the fact that every ninja village would still be at war. Sasuke wants to create peace so logically he would be ending war. If he wants to end war between nations then I don't see the point in having shinobi at all. Yes, he may not have to kill the shinobi to end shinobi but why does he have to kill the hokage unless they are some kind of threat when they don't have power to stop him. Yes, as mentioned earlier the five kages would probably have more influence over the villages than Sasuke, but as the past few chapters indicate Sasuke pretty much plans on doing everything by force so that brings the question back up. Why in the world would he need to kill the Hokage?

I see what you are saying, hokages are not a threat to him, but maybe he considers them to be responsible for all the pain he and Itachi had to suffer and for the current situation(he even said it), they don't have to be a threat to him, consider this more like sasuke punishing them, but this all is form sasuke's perspective,others wouldn't consider them guilty but sasuke does,my conclusion: Sasuke is punishing the Kages for bringing this current situation, this is all I can think of really.
 

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I see what you are saying, hokages are not a threat to him, but maybe he considers them to be responsible for all the pain he and Itachi had to suffer and for the current situation(he even said it), they don't have to be a threat to him, consider this more like sasuke punishing them, but this all is form sasuke's perspective,others wouldn't consider them guilty but sasuke does,my conclusion: Sasuke is punishing the Kages for bringing this current situation, this is all I can think of really.

That could very well be it.
 

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The majority of the problems have not just been from the Kages, Madara, BZ and Obito were controlling things in more than one village not to mention the fact that Oro was doing his own thing in Sound village. Also Ashura and Indra have a role in how things played out so some circumstances were beyond the Kages control. That does not excuse all of their actions but Sasuke does not get to excuse some people for manipulation and not others. Pain would not have been created if it weren't for Danzo and Hanzo so there was plenty of manipulation to go around. Let's not forget that the Akatsuki as created by Yahiko had a different purpose in the beginning.

I am not excusing the Kages or making excuses for them. Some of them did some really horrendous things, but there were many more things that came into play than anyone realized.

There was plenty of manipulation going on by many people. Yes Sasuke does view them as a threat, why else kill them while they are sleeping. He does not want to have to bother fighting them. While Tsunade has done her best to make sure he is not viewed as a criminal and tried to have him viewed a a Leaf problem only, the other Kages do view him that way and would not go along with anything he would want to do. Once he helped Obito, even though it was only temporary, Ay and the others will not listen to him.

Sasuke is very arrogant so I don't think he views Naruto as a threat, but Naruto's popularity is a problem for him and since he is a jinchuriki he is determined to kill him. I would think he means to weaken him and then seal the other half of Kurama so Naruto will die. Sasuke must know that killing Naruto with Kurama in him would result in Kurama being reborn and eventually coming to get even with him.

I don't agree with what he's doing but he's trying to minimize the threats before he puts his plan into action.
 

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The majority of the problems have not just been from the Kages, Madara, BZ and Obito were controlling things in more than one village not to mention the fact that Oro was doing his own thing in Sound village. Also Ashura and Indra have a role in how things played out so some circumstances were beyond the Kages control. That does not excuse all of their actions but Sasuke does not get to excuse some people for manipulation and not others. Pain would not have been created if it weren't for Danzo and Hanzo so there was plenty of manipulation to go around. Let's not forget that the Akatsuki as created by Yahiko had a different purpose in the beginning.

I am not excusing the Kages or making excuses for them. Some of them did some really horrendous things, but there were many more things that came into play than anyone realized.

There was plenty of manipulation going on by many people. Yes Sasuke does view them as a threat, why else kill them while they are sleeping. He does not want to have to bother fighting them. While Tsunade has done her best to make sure he is not viewed as a criminal and tried to have him viewed a a Leaf problem only, the other Kages do view him that way and would not go along with anything he would want to do. Once he helped Obito, even though it was only temporary, Ay and the others will not listen to him.

Sasuke is very arrogant so I don't think he views Naruto as a threat, but Naruto's popularity is a problem for him and since he is a jinchuriki he is determined to kill him. I would think he means to weaken him and then seal the other half of Kurama so Naruto will die. Sasuke must know that killing Naruto with Kurama in him would result in Kurama being reborn and eventually coming to get even with him.

I don't agree with what he's doing but he's trying to minimize the threats before he puts his plan into action.

That makes a hell of a lot of sense. Given the gokages current change in attitude they are probably not out to get Sasuke anymore. But Sasuke doesn't know how they've they changed. He probably thinks that after this is all over the gokage will start a war against him which would result in Sasuke having to fight the shinobi Nations which would completely ruin his plan of trying to reform the five nations. Of course Sasuke could take control by force if Naruto is out of the picture but what would be the point in that if people are just going to fight back to the very end anyway.
 

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He just views them as marks of the old failed system that should be erased to start the new system.
 
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