Minato cannot beat Adult Obito

[V h o]

No one is saying that whatsoever. Obito in base form with 1 MS has effortlessly dodged attacks comparable, and faster than Minato's striking speed, which is not instantaneous, like FTG.

To reiterate, FTG transport speed =/= minato's striking speed.

Yes we all know that, yet you keep bringing it up.

Let me put it another way, no matter how fast Minato can teleport to a location, his reflexes and striking speed are all that needs to be dodged. Do you finally get it?

Obito bar juubito isn't faster than Minato's attack. Him dodging others doesn't equal him dodging an attack as fast as a FTG slash (which is just a slash in close proximity.)

If striking were instantaneous while using FTG, Madara would have been hit easily, but because Minato's reflexes and striking speed were not enough, Madara countered it despite the instantaneous travel.

Seriously why are you keep saying Minato's FTG strike is instantaneous, especially when I have never claimed it was?
Secondly Madara had senjutsu/sage mode when he dodged it, does this Obito you speak of have sage mode/senjutsu?

It seems you keep using Obito after juubito as if he is the same or can replicate feats.

 

[The Necromancer]

how would minato dodge something mid attack while going up against a stronger foe? so because obito WITH rikudo chakra reacted to an attack while standing still, it proves that regular obito has better reflexes then minato who was mid attack and fighting someone without being beefed u by sages energy. . .

the stuff people come up with

Yes it does. Exactly, because all Minato has to do is think, and he FTG's away from the strike, but he was so outsped, he couldn't even escape with an instantaneously traveling, no seals required, thought activated, teleportation jutsu.

 

[The Necromancer]

Yes we all know that, yet you keep bringing it up.

Obito bar juubito isn't faster than Minato's attack. Him dodging others doesn't equal him dodging an attack as fast as a FTG slash (which is just a slash in close proximity.)


Seriously why are you keep saying Minato's FTG strike is instantaneous, especially when I have never claimed it was?
Secondly Madara had senjutsu/sage mode when dodge it, does this Obito you speak of have sage mode/senjutsu?

It seems you keep using Obito after juubito as if he is the same or can replicate feats.

You are now the dumbest member here. I'm done with you. You state, "Minato's hiraishin giri > Obito's reflexes." Then I remind you, "Hiraishin giri is based on the user's reflexes, and as Obito's reflexes are proven better, it's not." Then you ask who brought up reflexes when it was very clearly you, then you circle back to a part of the debate that has been over for a good while.

Goodbye. Live in ignorance.

 

[V h o]

You are now the dumbest member here. I'm done with you. You state, "Minato's hiraishin giri > Obito's reflexes." Then I remind you, "Hiraishin giri is based on the user's reflexes, and as Obito's reflexes are proven better, it's not." Then you ask who brought up reflexes when it was very clearly you, then you circle back to a part of the debate that has been over for a good while.

Goodbye. Live in ignorance.

And then you neg me over a disagreement lel. How typical.

You could have proved your point with scans showing a pre juubito dodging FTG, which is exactly what I'm talking about.

 

[The Necromancer]

There was nothing inconsistent in it. If he could instantly enter SM(in less than a second) and use it in battle against Jubi Jin Madara, that means he can use it against Obito. Minato only mentioned the fact it takes him too much time to knead the chakra(talking in terms of quantity). He didn't say however that he can't knead small amount in time to make use of it in battle. It's in the long run that Minato wasn't finding SM appropriate. Not that he couldn't make use of it for short bursts if need arise. And even then, when he has the possibility to summon Pa and Ma, that problem can quickly be resolved

1MS Obito with Rikudo chakra increasing his precognition, speed, and reaction. Not to mention, he could have easily turn intangible beforehand. It's not like Madara can force Obito to become tangible

Your first point is fair. He did state that he never used it because he had problems kneading it.

I didn't come here to debate post-Juubi-Jin obito, because his apparent acquisition of Senjutsu chakra is a factor I don't want to deal with. So I will just table all post Juubi Jin feats.


That being said, 1MS Obito has still shown feats that could put his reaction time above that of Minato's. And should that be true, he would have no problem defeating Minato in life, as he only barely lost 17 years prior.

 

[Konohas gelber Blitz]

Another wanker thread. Minato would whoop his ass hahah

 

[DannySenju]

smh Of course he can.

*facepalm*