Minato cannot beat Adult Obito

[The Necromancer]

Narrowly escaped =faster

lel are you seriously going to say Kamui is faster than FTG when not even DMS?

Nothing can be faster than FTG, but Kamui is faster than Minato's reflexes.

 

[V h o]

Again faster to not mean better.

Faster= attack hitting, so in combat it does.

Rinnegan and DMS are the only factors. 1 eye loses

Not when the other guy is the rinnengan.. So..

First comment answers this. Jins + obito>Minato (although it would be a tough match if Minato was BM-assuming he shares the feats of BM Naruto).

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Nothing can be faster than FTG, but Kamui is faster than Minato's reflexes.

Which don't mean anything, unless you are referring to juubito who had senjutsu. Any other obito isn't dodging FTG.

 

[DHOH]

I know but i gave that example to show you how not being in your body can sometimes not give you access to your full strength and especially when in this case Orochimaru's jutsu was only close to perfect

Again this is not DBZ, and Orochimaru prove your statement wrong... If he had a strong body he would be a sage.

 

[DHOH]

Faster= attack hitting, so in combat it does.





First comment answers this. Jins + obito>Minato (although it would be a tough match if Minato was BM-assuming he shares the feats of BM Naruto).

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Which don't mean anything, unless you are referring to juubito who had senjutsu. Any other obito isn't dodging FTG.

No it doesn't, and you're simply ignoring the Rinnengan.

 

[The Necromancer]

Which don't mean anything, unless you are referring to juubito who had senjutsu. Any other obito isn't dodging FTG.

The fact that you are saying this means you know nothing at all. FTG does nothing to increase attack speed or reaction time. FTG is a tool, which is useless when the opponent is faster in every category, as Obito is in adulthood. U_U

 

[Demonic.]

Unless Kamui warp is instant, Minato will always win. Warping someone is kind of a cowardly win anyway.

 

[VongolaX]

Narrowly escaped =faster

lel are you seriously going to say Kamui is faster than FTG when not even DMS?

Since when does narrowly mean anything faster?

It means you're barely fast enough....

DMS kamui helps your jump speed to be instant, all his other regular kamui variants are instant.

 

[Great Master Minato]

The Fact That Some People Truly Believe Obito's Reflexes/Reaction Time > Minato's Lol

 

[V h o]

The fact that you are saying this means you know nothing at all. FTG does nothing to increase attack speed or reaction time. FTG is a tool, which is useless when the opponent is faster in every category, as Obito is in adulthood. U_U

Yes and? FTG warps the user to mark, Obito has zero feats bar juubito of dodging the slash of this proximity or are you saying he can?

No it doesn't, and you're simply ignoring the Rinnengan.

What am I ignoring then? Rinnegan obito without jins does what?

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Since when does narrowly mean anything faster?

It means you're barely fast enough....

DMS kamui helps your jump speed to be instant, all his other regular kamui variants are instant.

Fast enough to out speed yes? Therefore faster..

DMS Kamui isn't even been brought up by me, as I am strictly talking about 1 MS kamui of adult Obito...

 

[The Necromancer]

The Fact That Some People Truly Believes Obito's Reflexes/Reaction Time > Minato's Lol

It's not a matter of belief, the manga has shown this to be true for at least 3 years now.

 

[DHOH]

Unless Kamui warp is instant, Minato will always win. Warping someone is kind of a cowardly win anyway.

He don't have warp him. Genjutsu, and a ton of rinnengan abilities.

 

[The Necromancer]

Yes and? FTG warps the user to mark, Obito has zero feats bar juubito of dodging the slash of this proximity or are you saying he can?



What am I ignoring then? Rinnegan obito without jins does what?

Are you debating win a previously marked Obito? Why don't I set the stage beginning with Obito's hands around Minato's neck?

This is a hypothetical fight. No previous manga cannon story line takes place here... :|

 

[DHOH]

Yes and? FTG warps the user to mark, Obito has zero feats bar juubito of dodging the slash of this proximity or are you saying he can?



What am I ignoring then? Rinnegan obito without jins does what?

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Fast enough to out speed yes? Therefore faster..

DMS Kamui isn't even been brought up by me, as I am strictly talking about 1 MS kamui of adult Obito...

So you forget the rinnengan abilities?

 

[VongolaX]

Yup. Plot made obito gloat instead of win, like he easily could have in that moment.

Not a single mokuton, Katon, or black rod etc was used against minato.

It was clear that his motives were not to kill...

Unfortunately people tend to ignore that...

 

[Great Master Minato]

It's not a matter of belief, the manga has shown this to be true for at least 3 years now.

Scan? Or Just Stop This Nonsense...

 

[V h o]

So you forget the rinnengan abilities?

No I don't, but clearly you're implying Obito can use them, so tell me when did Obito use his rinnegan bar the jins?

Are you debating win a previously marked Obito? Why don't I set the stage beginning with Obito's hands around Minato's neck?

This is a hypothetical fight. No previous manga cannon story line takes place here... :|

No I am not, old Minato didn't even use sage mode so that is another factor in this "hypothetical fight", least enough BM.

 

[DHOH]

No I don't, but clearly you're implying Obito can use them, so tell me when did Obito use his rinnegan bar the jins?



No I am not, old Minato didn't even use sage mode so that is another factor in this "hypothetical fight", least enough BM.

So you're saying Obito had a rinnengan eye in his head that he didn't know how to use, or it was broken.. Not really sure what you're trying to say.

 

[The Necromancer]

No I don't, but clearly you're implying Obito can use them, so tell me when did Obito use his rinnegan bar the jins?



No I am not, old Minato didn't even use sage mode so that is another factor in this "hypothetical fight", least enough BM.

Jesus. Minato stated himself SM is not an ability he can use in battle. You're out of legs to stand on.

 

[V h o]

Jesus. Minato stated himself SM is not an ability he can use in battle. You're out of legs to stand on.

Ok so? I still stand by what I said before about FTG being faster than obito's reflexes.

So you're saying Obito had a rinnengan eye in his head that he didn't know how to use, or it was broken.. Not really sure what you're trying to say.

I'm saying he only used it for Jins and the gedo. lel

 

[The Necromancer]

Ok so? I still stand by what I said before about FTG being faster than obito's reflexes.

You're moving up the list of dumbest members here.

I already explained that FTG does not make you inherently faster, nor does it increase reflexes. You've circled back to the previously debunked debate. U_U

-Naruto's BM speed compared to Minato-

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-Obito effortlessly dodging the same BM Naruto's strike-

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-Obito effortlessly dodging KCM Naruto's attack while full body warping, which is much slower than Kamui phasing-

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