[Discussion] Crocodile vs Magellan

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Crocodile

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Magallen

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Scenario 1: impel down
Scenario 2: alabasta desert

 

[Punk Hazard]

Crocodile loses both scenarios.

 

[Tobi98]

Magellan wins scenario 1 easily, scenario 2 I'm not sure

 

[VongolaX]

Crocodile in both senerio's

Crocodile never lost a battle in the dessert, he said so himself.

Even luffy got one-shotted in the desert

 

[Punk Hazard]

Crocodile in both senerio's

Crocodile never lost a battle in the dessert, he said so himself.

Even luffy got one-shotted in the desert

Magellan easily defeats Crocodile in Impel Down, and slightly has trouble in the desert. You have to remember Crocodile was in a city of Haki-less fodder, so of course he wouldn't be defeated.

Magellan on the other hand, was put in charge of taking care of the worst criminals, defeated Teach and his entire crew in one move casually, and his powers are the very thing Crocodile is weak against: Liquids.

Magellan was capable of combating and defeating Gear 2 Luffy, while pre-gear Alabasta Luffy was capable of dodging and withsthanding Crocodile's attacks. Jet Bazooka>any move Crocodile can pull out. Crocodile's strongest moves shown so far are Barchan, La Spada and Sandstorm: Heavy.
Luffy could withstand and dodge La Spada, because his fists were wet with blood, he was able to render the attack useless, almost all of Magellan's attacks are wet.

Barchan require Crocodile to get close, which will result in him getting nailed by a Hydra or other poisons, or a direct poison ball to the face, killing him.

Luffy withstood Sandstorm: Heavy with no visible damage, Magellan can too.

If Crocodile tries to absorb Hydra or any other liquid poison attacks, he's just giving the poison a direct route to his body, killing him.

Magellan wins 10/10 times.

 

[Lyke]

Magellan easily defeats Crocodile in Impel Down, and slightly has trouble in the desert. You have to remember Crocodile was in a city of Haki-less fodder, so of course he wouldn't be defeated.

Magellan on the other hand, was put in charge of taking care of the worst criminals, defeated Teach and his entire crew in one move casually, and his powers are the very thing Crocodile is weak against: Liquids.

Magellan was capable of combating and defeating Gear 2 Luffy, while pre-gear Alabasta Luffy was capable of dodging and withsthanding Crocodile's attacks. Jet Bazooka>any move Crocodile can pull out. Crocodile's strongest moves shown so far are Barchan, La Spada and Sandstorm: Heavy.
Luffy could withstand and dodge La Spada, because his fists were wet with blood, he was able to render the attack useless, almost all of Magellan's attacks are wet.

Barchan require Crocodile to get close, which will result in him getting nailed by a Hydra or other poisons, or a direct poison ball to the face, killing him.

Luffy withstood Sandstorm: Heavy with no visible damage, Magellan can too.

If Crocodile tries to absorb Hydra or any other liquid poison attacks, he's just giving the poison a direct route to his body, killing him.

Magellan wins 10/10 times.

10/10 would read again

 

[VongolaX]

Magellan easily defeats Crocodile in Impel Down, and slightly has trouble in the desert. You have to remember Crocodile was in a city of Haki-less fodder, so of course he wouldn't be defeated.

This includes people in the new world too, Jozu had Haki and look where that ended him...

Across the marineford.

Last time I check Magellan doesn't have Haki.

Magellan on the other hand, was put in charge of taking care of the worst criminals, defeated Teach and his entire crew in one move casually, and his powers are the very thing Crocodile is weak against: Liquids.

Magellan was capable of combating and defeating Gear 2 Luffy, while pre-gear Alabasta Luffy was capable of dodging and withsthanding Crocodile's attacks. Jet Bazooka>any move Crocodile can pull out. Crocodile's strongest moves shown so far are Barchan, La Spada and Sandstorm: Heavy.
Luffy could withstand and dodge La Spada, because his fists were wet with blood, he was able to render the attack useless, almost all of Magellan's attacks are wet.

Barchan require Crocodile to get close, which will result in him getting nailed by a Hydra or other poisons, or a direct poison ball to the face, killing him.

Luffy withstood Sandstorm: Heavy with no visible damage, Magellan can too.

If Crocodile tries to absorb Hydra or any other liquid poison attacks, he's just giving the poison a direct route to his body, killing him.

Magellan wins 10/10 times.

Gonna stop you here...

1) Magallan has no Haki, so in the desert he gets raped

Impel down, he still gets raped because it's a one touch kill on Crocodiles part

2) doesn't really matter what you feel is is strongest move, Luffy's attack only went through Crocodile because Crocodile was damp.

So there was no intangibility and sand water is as useless as ever, and luffy with blood on his hand just made it even worse.

3) magallan gets raped by that desert splitting attack

4) whatever Jozu couldn't tank, magallan isn't doing any better.

Crocodile stomps 15/10

 

[Punk Hazard]

This includes people in the new world too, Jozu had Haki and look where that ended him...

Across the marineford.




Gonna stop you here...

1) Magallan has no Haki, so in the desert he gets raped

Impel down, he still gets raped because it's a one touch kill on Crocodiles part

2) doesn't really matter what you feel is is strongest move, Luffy's attack only went through Crocodile because Crocodile was damp.

So there was no intangibility and sand water is as useless as ever, and luffy with blood on his hand just made it even worse.

3) magallan gets raped by that desert splitting attack

4) whatever Jozu couldn't tank, magallan isn't doing any better.

Crocodile stomps 15/10

1. Jozu ended up across Marineford because Doflamingo was restraining him. One on one, Jozu would have murdered Crocodile.

2. One touch? Crocodile can't get close to Magellan. He places his right hand on Magellan and absorbs his moisture, he'd just absorb the layers of poison on his body, killing him. Crocodile reaches out to touch Magellan, a Hydra sprouts directly into his face, bypassing his intangibility and crippling him from the poison.

Magellan doesn't need Haki because every single one of attacks is capable of affecting Crocodile, 95% of Magellan's arsenal is Crocodile's weakness.

3. Nope, Magellan can infuse his poison into the ground, making it wet and out of Crocodile's control, or suspend himself off of the ground in his Hydra and Jigoku, which can easily strike Crocodile. Crocodile lacks speed feats, he was barely able to dodge pre-gear Luffy, while Magellan kept up with and defeated Gear 2 Luffy.

4. Crocodile actually dried off by the time they were in the underground tunnels. And Magellan's LIQUID poisons would just make him damp again, with the added benefit of poisoning him at the same time. Luffy's wet arms caused his sand attacks to fall apart when they collided, Magellan's liquid poisons would do the same. Crocodile's strongest moves could be dodged or withstood by Alabasta Luffy, who Magellan is far superior to. Crocodile can't do a thing to hurt Magellan.

5. What? When was Jozu incapable of tanking Crocodile's attacks? Crocodile never stood a chance against Jozu.

For your sake, I hope you're trolling.

 

[VongolaX]

1. Jozu ended up across Marineford because Doflamingo was restraining him. One on one, Jozu would have murdered Crocodile.

Doflamingo and Jozu were both tossed.

Stopping him from charging doesn't change the fact that he sent him flying.

Even that attack that he used to stop Akainu is enough

2. One touch? Crocodile can't get close to Magellan. He places his right hand on Magellan and absorbs his moisture, he'd just absorb the layers of poison on his body, killing him. Crocodile reaches out to touch Magellan, a Hydra sprouts directly into his face, bypassing his intangibility and crippling him from the poison.

If he can get close to Akainu, Jozu, and Mihawk...

By all means Magellen is a chew toy

And by what point is his posein bypassing anything?

You don't poison sand, if anything Sand can suppress poison.

One touch GG

Magellan doesn't need Haki because every single one of attacks is capable of affecting Crocodile, 95% of Magellan's arsenal is Crocodile's weakness.

Poison is not sand's weakness, it's the other way around.

You think poison that wasn't able to stop wax is going to have any affect on Sand?

3. Nope, Magellan can infuse his poison into the ground, making it wet and out of Crocodile's control, or suspend himself off of the ground in his Hydra and Jigoku, which can easily strike Crocodile. Crocodile lacks speed feats, he was barely able to dodge pre-gear Luffy, while Magellan kept up with and defeated Gear 2 Luffy.

Lol what?

Crocodile turns a whole miles of acre into sand, what the hell is putting poison in the ground going to do?

Fanfic?

Poison can't travel through dirt let alone sand, it is so completely futile.

What is this about Crocodiles speed?

He speed blitz Akainu, he can fly, and it took 2nd gear luffy in water to stop Crocodile from attacking Whitebeard.

It's funny because base luffy covered in wax pissed on magallan.

Luffy 2nd gear put magallan to his knees...

If it wasn't for poison, he would of been sh*tted on like that vice admiral.

Crocodile's speed>>>>>Magallan

4. Crocodile actually dried off by the time they were in the underground tunnels. And Magellan's LIQUID poisons would just make him damp again, with the added benefit of poisoning him at the same time. Luffy's wet arms caused his sand attacks to fall apart when they collided, Magellan's liquid poisons would do the same. Crocodile's strongest moves could be dodged or withstood by Alabasta Luffy, who Magellan is far superior to. Crocodile can't do a thing to hurt Magellan.

5. What? When was Jozu incapable of tanking Crocodile's attacks? Crocodile never stood a chance against Jozu.

For your sake, I hope you're trolling.

Crocodile wasn't dry by then, he was still damp from the gallon luffy hurled at him and what Nico tried to pull of on him should be included too.

Crocodile can't get effected by poison at all, he will dry him up in no time.

Don't even bring up that alabasta stuff, luffy lost two times and got help from Robin at the third.

Crocodile's durability feats go above Haki+brilliant punk blitz, something that will sh*t on magallan too.

Magallan has nothing on Crocodile...

Crocodile couldn't even get burned by Akainu's magma on contact, so what the hell is poison going to do to sand?

Sand nullifies poison, you can't poison sand.

Crocodile has fought numerous of Haki users and people way above Magallan's level that it's not even funny.

Crocodile goes back to the new world full of Haki users with hungry supernova's, and shows up with more subordinates than he did in the prison.

Magallan shows up demoted down to vice warden...

Crocodile smashes magallan

 

[VongolaX]

Crocodile can literally open up the desert and bury Magallan alive, he's not coming out of that for sure.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Doflamingo and Jozu were both tossed.

Stopping him from charging doesn't change the fact that he sent him flying.

Even that attack that he used to stop Akainu is enough



If he can get close to Akainu, Jozu, and Mihawk...

By all means Magellen is a chew toy

And by what point is his posein bypassing anything?

You don't poison sand, if anything Sand can suppress poison.

One touch GG


Poison is not sand's weakness, it's the other way around.

You think poison that wasn't able to stop wax is going to have any affect on Sand?



Lol what?

Crocodile turns a whole miles of acre into sand, what the hell is putting poison in the ground going to do?

Fanfic?

Poison can't travel through dirt let alone sand, it is so completely futile.

What is this about Crocodiles speed?

He speed blitz Akainu, he can fly, and it took 2nd gear luffy in water to stop Crocodile from attacking Whitebeard.

It's funny because base luffy covered in wax pissed on magallan.

Luffy 2nd gear put magallan to his knees...

If it wasn't for poison, he would of been sh*tted on like that vice admiral.

Crocodile's speed>>>>>Magallan



Crocodile wasn't dry by then, he was still damp from the gallon luffy hurled at him and what Nico tried to pull of on him should be included too.

Crocodile can't get effected by poison at all, he will dry him up in no time.

Don't even bring up that alabasta stuff, luffy lost two times and got help from Robin at the third.

Crocodile's durability feats go above Haki+brilliant punk blitz, something that will sh*t on magallan too.

Magallan has nothing on Crocodile...

Crocodile couldn't even get burned by Akainu's magma on contact, so what the hell is poison going to do to sand?

Sand nullifies poison, you can't poison sand.

Crocodile has fought numerous of Haki users and people way above Magallan's level that it's not even funny.

Crocodile goes back to the new world full of Haki users with hungry supernova's, and shows up with more subordinates than he did in the prison.

Magallan shows up demoted down to vice warden...

Crocodile smashes magallan

1. Jozu was tossed because he was unable to move. If Doflamingo hadn't restrained him, Jozu would have been blitzing Crocodile and knocking him down over and over until he died. Crocodile has no means of hurting or countering Jozu.
Crocodile didn't close to Akainu, he launched a sneak attack from a distance that didn't phase Akainu, then the other Commanders and Ivankov showed up. Jozu, Mihawk and Akainu would all slaughter Crocodile 1 vs 1.

2. No, you can't poison sand. But the poison comes in a liquid form. Do you not know how sand works? The same reason wax was effective against the poison is the same reason poison is effective against sand. Wax and sand are absorbent, meaning they trap liquids on contact. Wax was able to counter the poison because of this, coating Luffy in wax allowed him to make contact with Magellan because the wax trapped the poison, rather than letting it seep onto Luffy's skin. This however, is why getting wet is Crocodile's weakness. Since Crocodile is a Logia, he IS sand, meaning if any liquid gets on him, it will cause the sand created when he transforms to absorb and trap the liquid, compacting the sand particles together. Since Crocodile's intangibility works by letting his sand particles disperse, them being compacted together prevents that from happening. Crocodile's body would absorb the liquid poison, causing the inside of Crocodile's body to directly exposed to the poison. This would make it even more deadly to him than normal people because his body would absorb the liquid poison directly into itself. If Crocodile was a sand Paramacia, he'd have an advantage, but since he's a sand Logia, he's at a disadvantage.

3. Luffy needed Gear 2 because of the fact that Crocodile had moved far away while everyone wasn't looking. He needed Gear 2 because Crocodile was already behind Whitebeard, and he was all the way on the ground. Luffy needed Gear 2 because his base speed wouldn't have closed the gap in time, not because he couldn't keep pace with Crocodile. If Luffy was standing behind or next to Whitebeard, he wouldn't have needed Gear 2 to intercept him, as Alabasta Luffy was capable of intercepting Crocodile and there's no way Crocodile would have gotten stronger in Impel Down, as he was in a cell 24/7 while wearing Kairoseki handcuffs, which drain him of his powers the entire time it's on.

It doesn't matter that Luffy lost twice and got help from Robin, Robin didn't make Luffy's attacks capable of hurting and knocking out Crocodile. Crocodile's durability was enough to fend off one hit from Jozu. Successive hits would have killed him.

4. Crocodile takes time to turn things into sand. As he places his hand on the ground and it starts cracking, he leaves himself open to getting hit with the Hydras or Jigoku, both of which has enough speed to keep up with Gear 2 Luffy who has superior speed to Crocodile.

Crocodile didn't "fight" anyone above Magellan's level. He deflected one strike form Mihawk due to his hook being made of gold, which even Daz Bones could do. He landed one sneak attack on Akainu, and then the Commanders showed up right after to back him up. He got launched by Jozu, and Doflamingo had to restrain him so Crocodile couldn't be killed, and was only able to launch Jozu away because Jozu couldn't move.

Crocodile can be affected by poison, he's still a human. If poison hits him in his human or partial forms, it'll affect him. Liquid poison would cause him to become wet and he'd lose his intangibility.

Anyways, this debate between you and me is over. You hardly know what you're talking about and I'm finding it more and more difficult to take you seriously with each post. See if someone else will believe your dribble, cuz this is looking quite sad for you right now.

 

[Red Swag]

magellan no diff. he was put in charge of impel down for a reason.

 

[Kiiszame]

Crocodile isn't Gaara.
Magallen fruit is just on another lvl. Fighting him is risky for anyone especially when he uses the red venom.
Magallen beat croc boy hands down. One could argue Magallen is admiral lvl. You don't guard the strongest prisoners in the world and not have some kind of strength.

Btw... I wonder what happened to him?

 

[U mAd]

magaallen withe haki or a bucket of water solos.otherwise croco wins

 

[puni]

Magellan will win in both scenarios.

 

[Fireplay]

Magellan wins both scenarios.

 

[Forbidden Tale]

Magellan wins, Crocodile is IMO one of the most overrated characters here.

 

[MartinRico]

Notice how Croc didn't stay behind to beat Magellan. That should tell you everything. If he did, then he would have ended up like everyone else that got in his way.
For those that think Magellan needs Haki, He doesn't. Just remember what Croc's weakness is and then what type of DF Magellan has. Croc has to avoid him just like everybody else.

 

[kyubbi sagemode]

Notice how Croc didn't stay behind to beat Magellan. That should tell you everything. If he did, then he would have ended up like everyone else that got in his way.
For those that think Magellan needs Haki, He doesn't. Just remember what Croc's weakness is and then what type of DF Magellan has. Croc has to avoid him just like everybody else.

It's true he didn't stay behind but that's mostly because he wanted to save his all strength for the war so he could take whitebeards head. It also seems that he was rushing to get to the war and stopping to fight magallen would waste a lot of time weather he would win or lose.

 

[Killua Zoldyck]

People forget that Crocodile's best feats where during MF.

He is capable of clashing with Mihawk receiving zero damage. He repelled Akainu and tanked Jozu's brilliant punk surprise attack with little damage. Its safe to say he did not use anywhere near full power against Luffy at Alabasta, or he simply got a lot stronger in jail. I would put MF Crocodile just under Luffy, with Haki, he is probably equal with him.

Regardless I think Megallan wins the first scenario because he is the perfect counter to Crocodile. The second scenario is a toss-up, leaning towards Croc.