Misconception - "Kurama messed up Naruto's chakra control"

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Above, we see Jaraiya observing and commenting on Naruto's seal. He states that the reason Naruto couldn't control chakra well was because the 5 part seal prevented Kurama's chakra from mixing with Naruto's. Essentially, Naruto cannot control chakra properly without Kurama; he needs Kurama's chakra to mix with his in order to properly control his chakra.

Poor Reading Comprehension is your problem because you're misinterpreting the scan to suit your needs.
Orochimaru sealed off access to the Kyuubi's chakra which disrupted Naruto's own Chakra, which he couldn't even mold properly during the fight with Kiba.

 

[xxSAGExx]

Jaraiya says he can't walk on water without Kurama.

Stamina or Strength=\= Chakra control



Lel.

That scan was before Jaraiya fixed the seal so Kurama's chakra could mix with Naruto's.




Whether Kakashi knew or not changes nothing. The 5 part seal affects Naruto the same.

Analogy: Whether we knew Itachi was sick or not doesn't make a difference. It still affected his stamina.

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That's my point.

Naruto couldn't walk on water without Kurama's chakra mixing with his. He needs Kurama to walk on water.

Actually it does, if Kakashi knew nothing about Oro's seal then he's basing his analysis off of Naruto before Orochimaru seal which still was poor chakra control. Ebisu, who was informed by Kakashi said this about Naruto's chakra control

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. Kakashi's analysis of Naruto's skills would be from what he observed on their missions before the Chunin exams and there's no reason for him to think Naruto's chakra control is going to increase or decrease in the forest.

You're example with Itachi isn't the same since Itachi was sick for years and we were introduced to him already with the sickness. Naruto got his chakra sealed then Kakashi only saw Naruto fight once and that was it Kiba where he used Shadow clones and transformation jutsu. As you can see from Kakashi's/Ebisu's analysis, Naruto would use a ton of stamina to make fewer chakra which tires him out, that wouldn't change after Naruto got Oro's seal but make Naruto use even more chakra to use his jutsus but Kakashi wasn't using his Sharingan to see Naruto's chakra nor did he see Naruto in multiple fights as he had in the land of waves.

Oro's seal disrupted Naruto's chakra flow so Naruto's chakra control was off balance from what it's normally was. Oh and Naruto with the seal actually was learning to walk on water much faster than Ebisu thought he would and this is without him knowing about Oro's seal

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. So Naruto's chakra control is actually really good if he can learn it right after being told how to do it and with his chakra disrupted.

 

[JCW]

No...

He just had a lot of shit on his plate along with having a boss ass fox in him..

Sakura didn't go through any of that and had the cleanest plate

Not to forget he was a knuckle head

 

[Sharingan King]

Poor Reading Comprehension is your problem because you're misinterpreting the scan to suit your needs.
Orochimaru sealed off access to the Kyuubi's chakra which disrupted Naruto's own Chakra, which he couldn't even mold properly during the fight with Kiba.

Sealing of Kurama's chakra with 5 part seal = poor chakra control

Removing 5 part seal = good chakra control.

Conclusion: Naruto needs Kurama's chakra to mix with his for proper chakra control. U_U

 

[Migster257]

Sealing of Kurama's chakra with 5 part seal = poor chakra control

Removing 5 part seal = good chakra control.

Conclusion: Naruto needs Kurama's chakra to mix with his for proper chakra control. U_U

And you got to that conclusion because of an assumption? K then.

 

[Sharingan King]

Actually it does, if Kakashi knew nothing about Oro's seal then he's basing his analysis off of Naruto before Orochimaru seal which still was poor chakra control. Ebisu, who was informed by Kakashi said this about Naruto's chakra control

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. Kakashi's analysis of Naruto's skills would be from what he observed on their missions before the Chunin exams and there's no reason for him to think Naruto's chakra control is going to increase or decrease in the forest.

You're example with Itachi isn't the same since Itachi was sick for years and we were introduced to him already with the sickness. Naruto got his chakra sealed then Kakashi only saw Naruto fight once and that was it Kiba where he used Shadow clones and transformation jutsu. As you can see from Kakashi's/Ebisu's analysis, Naruto would use a ton of stamina to make fewer chakra which tires him out, that wouldn't change after Naruto got Oro's seal but make Naruto use even more chakra to use his jutsus but Kakashi wasn't using his Sharingan to see Naruto's chakra nor did he see Naruto in multiple fights as he had in the land of waves.

Oro's seal disrupted Naruto's chakra flow so Naruto's chakra control was off balance from what it's normally was. Oh and Naruto with the seal actually was learning to walk on water much faster than Ebisu thought he would and this is without him knowing about Oro's seal

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. So Naruto's chakra control is actually really good if he can learn it right after being told how to do it and with his chakra disrupted.

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Kakashi was watching the match as well. In that match, I remember Naruto taking a long time to build up his chakra before he could use his jutsus. How do you know that Kakashi wasn't refering to that as well?

In any case, Naruto could control his chakra much better after the 5 part seal was removed. Jaraiya says it was because his chakra couldn't mix with Kurama's. Therefore, Kurama's chakra must mix with Naruto's for proper chakra control.

And you got to that conclusion because of an assumption? K then.

Nope.

I got to that conclusion because Jaraiya, a sealings expert, said so.

 

[V h o]

Lel didn't Naruto meld his chakra to perform shadow clones and transformation jutsu while still effected by the 5 prong seal against Kiba?

 

[Sharingan King]

Lel didn't Naruto meld his chakra to perform shadow clones and transformation jutsu while still effected by the 5 prong seal against Kiba?

Yet he took so long to build up chakra.

Yet he couldn't walk on water without his chakra mixing with Kurama's.

 

[V h o]

Yet he took so long to build up chakra.

Yet he couldn't walk on water without his chakra mixing with Kurama's.

Shadow clone jutsu+transformation> walking on water.

Transformation alone is E technique same as walking on water.

Edit: I may be wrong but walking on water isn't even a rank technique lmao. Transformation alone is better

 

[Sharingan King]

Shadow clone jutsu+transformation> walking on water.

Transformation alone is E technique same as walking on water.

If you perform a high rank jutsu but yet waste alot of chakra doing it then you have poor chakra control. Even Ebisu said that Naruto wasted alot of chakra because he wasn't controlling it well.

Walking on water is a chakra control feat which part 1 Naruto couldn't do without Kurama. Mangaphux.

 

[V h o]

If you perform a high rank jutsu but yet waste alot of chakra doing it then you have poor chakra control. Even Ebisu said that Naruto wasted alot of chakra because he wasn't controlling it well.

Walking on water is a chakra control feat which part 1 Naruto couldn't do without Kurama. Mangaphux.

lol you said he can't even meld chakra well enough to walk on water, yet he melded chakra to perform higher rank jutsu. XD

 

[Kamui Sama]

That chakra fusion was actually a link for Naruto to use Chakra Transfer technique. Referencing the "16 years."

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Which is "that jutsu" Minato needed to leak the chakra for.

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The diagram also noted that Naruto's chakra is his own, not his and Kurama's combined.

Plus, Kurama's chakra color is red; Naruto's is yellow.

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Rasengan's actual color:

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Naruto's chakra color would be orange if what you're saying is really the case.

Rasengan is supposed to be Yellow?!?! mind = blown

I prefer blue though

 

[KisuneUchiha]

Well, Kurama's power allowed Naruto to accomplish too many Jutsu and feats. Without it, I doubt he's even Jonin level.​

Whoa don't go around saying the truth around here, the Naruto fans would bite yo D off for saying such things about their fave

 

[Sharingan King]

lol you said he can't even meld chakra well enough to walk on water, yet he melded chakra to perform higher rank jutsu. XD

If you use a nuke to kill only 1 person then you are inefficient. If you waste 10% of your chakra on a jutsu that should use 0.1%, then you have poor chakra control. Ebisu said it; not me.

Walking on water is a chakra control exercise which Ebisu wanted Naruto to practice. Naruto couldn't do it until his chakra melded with Kurama's. Mangaphux.

 

[V h o]

If you use a nuke to kill only 1 person then you are inefficient. If you waste 10% of your chakra on a jutsu that should use 0.1%, then you have poor chakra control. Ebisu said it; not me.

Walking on water is a chakra control exercise which Ebisu wanted Naruto to practice. Naruto couldn't do it until his chakra melded with Kurama's. Mangaphux.

lol you said he can't even walk on water (melded chakra to walk on water) when he can still do higher ranked jutsu by melding his chakra.

lel but you're in denial, this thread has already been obliterated on the first page. (And this type of denial is why SB has a bad name, keep up the work XD)

 

[spade3dg]

Or I will.

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This /thread

 

[spade3dg]

Most of his chakra was focusing on the fox seal. Thats the reason the seal leaked fox chakra. To try to make up for the chakra he expends on the seal.

 

[Sharingan King]

lol you said he can't even walk on water (melded chakra to walk on water) when he can still do higher ranked jutsu by melding his chakra.

lel but you're in denial, this thread has already been obliterated on the first page. (And this type of denial is why SB has a bad name, keep up the work XD)

Ebisu said he had poor chakra control.

Jaraiya said he has poor chakra control because of the 5 part seal which prevented his chakra from mixing with Kurama's. I don't care if you want to deny mangaphax. Naruto needs Kurama to walk on water.

This /thread

Kakashi didn't know that the 5 part seal was the reason for his poor chakra control.

Jaraiya explained it perfectly; Kurama's chakra must mix with Naruto's for him to have proper chakra control. He couldn't even walk on water.

 

[spade3dg]

Ebisu said he had poor chakra control.

Jaraiya said he has poor chakra control because of the 5 part seal which prevented his chakra from mixing with Kurama's. I don't care if you want to deny mangaphax. Naruto needs Kurama to walk on water.




Kakashi didn't know that the 5 part seal was the reason for his poor chakra control.

Jaraiya explained it perfectly; Kurama's chakra must mix with Naruto's for him to have proper chakra control. He couldn't even walk on water.

Kakashi said that before the seal Oro put on naruto. If im not mistaken he explained it during the walking up a tree training. Thats why Sakura was able to do it so easily. Sasuke and Naruto reached it together. Which is even more impressive for naruto since he had to expend more chakra due to most of it having to keep the seal on place

 

[Sharingan King]

Kakashi said that before the seal Oro put on naruto. If im not mistaken he explained it during the walking up a tree training. Thats why Sakura was able to do it so easily. Sasuke and Naruto reached it together. Which is even more impressive for naruto since he had to expend more chakra due to most of it having to keep the seal on place

Nope.

That was after. The 5 part seal was still in place at the time Kakashi mentioned Naruto's chakra control.

More impressive? Naruto had Kyubi chakra leaking from birth and mixing with his. Naruto chakra+Kyubi chakra is more than Sasuke's.

Once the chakra stops melding, he can't walk on water.