Current Kakashi and Darui vs Kakuzu and Hidan

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Location: Konoha training ground
Distance: 30 meters
Intel: Full for both sides
Restrictions: none
Conditions: This is kakashi without sharingan and darui is not able to use the rikudo tools
All characters are healthy

who wins ?
 

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Kakashi and Darui stomps them easily.
 

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Team 2 wins. Kakashi lacking the Sharingan will give him trouble keeping up with Hidan and Kakuzu, which was stated to save him a couple of times.
 

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Zombie Duo wins, mid-diff, worst case.
Now waiting for contestation >_>
 
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Team 2 wins. Kakashi lacking the Sharingan will give him trouble keeping up with Hidan and Kakuzu, which was stated to save him a couple of times.

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Team two mid diff. He only needed sharingan to see through the dual combos.
 

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The Sharingan only gives him insight on what comes next, it has little to do with him actually dodging the attacks. Those are his own reaction and natural body abilities. Even if the Sharingan can see the attack the users body must have the necessary reactions and reflexes to evade the attack or they won't be able . Kakashi's reactions were all his own, the Sharingan just made them look prettier and precise so I see no reason as to why he can't evade there attacks. Then theres Darui who is the fastest person in this fight that can one shot Kakuzu with Black Panther while Kakashi kills Hidan.
 

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The Sharingan only gives him insight on what comes next, it has little to do with him actually dodging the attacks. Those are his own reaction and natural body abilities. Even if the Sharingan can see the attack the users body must have the necessary reactions and reflexes to evade the attack or they won't be able . Kakashi's reactions were all his own, the Sharingan just made them look prettier and precise so I see no reason as to why he can't evade there attacks. Then theres Darui who is the fastest person in this fight that can one shot Kakuzu with Black Panther while Kakashi kills Hidan.

Which is why I wont continue this discussion
 

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lets be honest, kakashi has improved all his skills even without the sharingan and darui is a better support than ino and choji.

Keep also in mind that the intel is full and team 1 has the taijutsu and speed advantage + kakashi can use more clones now.
This won't be easy for both sides.
 

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lets be honest, kakashi has improved all his skills even without the sharingan and darui is a better support than ino and choji.

Keep also in mind that the intel is full and team 1 has the taijutsu and speed advantage + kakashi can use more clones now.
This won't be easy for both sides.

I never denied that he improve.

Team 1 does not have taijutsu advantage, the advantage goes to Team 2, but speed sure. Speed isn't a significant problem with these two guys anyway.
 

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Kakazu and hidan win high diff
But it would have been a better fight ,if it had been war arc 3 tome sharingan kakashi
 

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Kakuzu and Hidan med difficulty at best.
 

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I never denied that he improve.

Team 1 does not have taijutsu advantage, the advantage goes to Team 2, but speed sure. Speed isn't a significant problem with these two guys anyway.



Darui with his sword can handle hidan, while kakashi is keeping kakuzu busy with clones, without the sharingan he has still fast reflexes


hiding like a mole can counter almost every attack of kakuzu combined with ration trap clones which will give kakuzu a hard time until darui finished hidan.
Together they can take down kakuzu med diff.

I think with intel darui won't take long against hidan due to his fast ranton element and superior food speed.
He can paralyze hidan very easily and will cut him into pieces to immobilize him for a long time.
 

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Darui with his sword can handle hidan, while kakashi is keeping kakuzu busy with clones, without the sharingan he has still fast reflexes


hiding like a mole can counter almost every attack of kakuzu combined with ration trap clones which will give kakuzu a hard time until darui finished hidan.
Together they can take down kakuzu med diff.

I think with intel darui won't take long against hidan due to his fast ranton element and superior food speed.
He can paralyze hidan very easily and will cut him into pieces to immobilize him for a long time.

its been a minute since I defended these cats. I entertain you later, when I have the time
 

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Which is why I wont continue this discussion

The Sharingan gives insight on what comes next so naturally the user would be dodging attacks more fluidly and cleaner than one who doesn't have the insight. The point here is that regardless of Sharingan, Kakashi will still evade and react to their attacks as Lee explained because he always had the reflexes and reactions to do so originally.

The preciseness of how he dodges the attack is not even the point of my post yet you took that in bold as an excuse to not reply because your premise had been shot, skinned, and cooked and you probably had no rebuttal but its all good, don't reply.
 
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Kakuzu solos with high difficulty
 

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The Sharingan gives insight on what comes next so naturally the user would be dodging attacks more fluidly and cleaner than one who doesn't have the insight. The point here is that regardless of Sharingan, Kakashi will still evade and react to their attacks as Lee explained because he always had the reflexes and reactions to do so originally.

The preciseness of how he dodges the attack is not even the point of my post yet you took that in bold as an excuse to not reply because your premise had been shot, skinned, and cooked and you probably had no rebuttal but its all good, don't reply.

I ignored it because you completely took out the context of the scan that the sharingan did not give the insight to act accordindly. As the manga states your wrong to saying he can still perform it with the insight needed for him to counter the combo
 

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oooh, a match up where hidan makes an actual difference~

akatsuki win mid diff. hidan stalls darui w/ his underrated & slick cqc prowess until kakuzu finishes kakashi w/ jiongo tendril blitz

knowledge always favors the stronger side, & its blatant ITT. its the case of the mythical, plot armor'd, clone feint.
...good luck w/ that, team jounin
 
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