[Predictions] Naruto Manga Chapter 693 Discussion and 694 Predictions

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I give it a 5/5. =D
I love Naruto so Im probably biased.

So...i read everyones comments.
Kinda disgusted by what I saw...honestly...:eww:

Discussion:
A: [on Sasuke stabbing Sakura and then it turning out to be genjutsu]
I was really disappointed when I saw Sasuke stab Sakura. I paused and sighed heavily.
I was happy and relieved when it turned out to be genjutsu attack only.
Sakura does not deserve to die for being "useless" (even though shes not even remotely useless)(her healing makes her eminently useful for any ninja good or bad, if ninjas are tools, Sakura is one of the best)
She doesnt deserve to die for being "annoying" (being loved should never be annoying, and if it is you need a head scan)
Sakura is a wonderful character and I would hate to see her killed by a jerk like Sasuke.
Even though she would never be killed by something like that...she has mito regen...so yeah...
Tsunade was literally cut in half by Madara, and she lived...I feel confident Sakura could do the same.
Thats not to say Sasuke couldnt kill her another way, he has many powers...
Im sickened that so many of you talk about wanting her to die or be killed and how that would make you happy.
Im worried for many of you that said that...I recommend swift action to change your mind before you ruin you life or someone else's with that sort of attitude... Im here if anyone needs some counseling. I wont judge and would do my best to help you find a positive mindset.

B: [on Sasuke and the case of the "Neutral Evil"]
Sasuke is clearly feeling justified in his decisions to do what he claims he will do/has done.
(animal cruelty/imprisonment of intelligent creatures with feelings, trapping the beasts) (premeditated cold blooded killing of his peers, the kage, while they sleep, defenseless) (1st degree murder of his friend, Naruto, savior of Konoha, Sasuke's village) (mental attacks on his admirer and fellow teammate, Sakura) (1st degree murder of Danzo, the self elected leader of Konoha at the time, his elder) (the attempted murder of his brother, Itachi, who lived and died for his brother Sasuke of his own free will[itachi ftw]) (the attempted murder and mutilation of ninja jinchuriki Killer Bee, who is ultimately a really nice guy, lol) (being a emo drama queen who feels justified in taking away others freedom, and right to live by self determination) I could go on and on I bet, but I think you get the point...this describes Sasuke very well:
"A neutral evil villain does whatever she can get away with. She is out for herself, pure and simple. She sheds no tears for those she kills, whether for profit, sport, or convenience. She has no love of order and holds no illusion that following laws, traditions, or codes would make her any better or more noble. On the other hand, she doesn't have the restless nature or love of conflict that a chaotic evil villain has.
Some neutral evil villains hold up evil as an ideal, committing evil for its own sake. Most often, such villains are devoted to evil deities or secret societies.
Neutral evil beings consider their alignment to be the best because they can advance themselves without regard for others.
Neutral evil is the most dangerous alignment because it represents pure evil without honor and without variation."

-http://easydamus.com/neutralevil.html

I don't even need to hear Sasuke explain his concept or idea of what a Hokage is, i already know.
If I had to wager, Id say that Sasuke believes that it is a leader's job to make the "hard choices" to do whats necessary for change, regardless of support or morality involved. He believes that to make an omelet you must break some eggs. He believes that if he has to trap the beasts, kill Naruto, kill the kage, and whatever else to make the world a better safer place, then that is his justification. He sees the darker side of the coin, like Danzo/Madara/Obito did. He thinks that a true leader does what his people need him to do, with or without their support. If he has to hurt them to help them, then so be it. He believes that the end justifies the means. With no exceptions. Which, sorry to say, ladies and gentlemen, is just flat out WRONG. Anything that comes with a loss of life or freedom "in the name of good" is not truly good, it is a spoiled apple. Its core is sick, and that sickness will permeate. It is based in the swamp of evil and can never truly be a good thing. That being said, we will move on to Naruto next...

C: [on what Naruto is thinking and going through]
Naruto is somewhere between a lawful good and chaotic good hero. He wants to be a part of the plan(hokage) but he ultimately follows his heart as a guide to whats "good" and "bad". I think Naruto and I have a similar understanding or outlook. Like many of the Konoha leaders and heroes, he puts others before himself (Asuma explained it best to Shikamaru as the "King" being the children of Konoha, and putting them first above all else). Naruto knows injustice when he sees it having been a victim of cruelty as a child. He wants to try to make things better, but isnt willing to cause pain or harm to anyone, to do so. I think he truly believes that it is unnecessary, and that you can do good with good only. Hes right too. Parents do it everyday. Sometimes you want to hit your kid or scream at them to try and force them to behave the way you want them to...but being unwilling to harm them, and knowing that there is a better way: for example: you accept them(first step) then you try and understand them (second step) and then you try and help them (third step).
This is Naruto's method for dealing with the crazy aholes out there. It is his go to plan, that we refer to lovingly as "TnJ".
Naruto judges everyone equally, he doesn't discriminate, and believes that everyone, no matter their size shape or stature, deserve happiness and freedom of self determination. He would fight for that cause, for anyone, and has shown it repeatedly as a child, and as a teen. That being said...we can infer that Naruto completely understands what Sasuke is feeling, he understands how someone could see things in a negative light, maybe its his experience with his own hatred, or having to live for his whole life with Kurama's hate within him at such a close proximity. Most likely its a combination of many things, and its Naruto's experience combined with his desire to not hurt others the way hes been hurt that leads him to be a "champion of good" as it were. This is the main difference between him and Sasuke. Sasuke was hurt as well, and that has created the sickness in him, because instead of seeing it as merely a "sad occurrence to be avoided in the future" he sees it as a normal prerequisite, or simply said the "cost of doing business". He isnt afraid to get his hands dirty and hurt others, because he was hurt by someone who loved him very much. He believes that to help those you love and care for, you have to hurt them...what a poor SoB...Itachi screwed that one up pretty badly, I gotta say...he created a mindset in Sasuke, like Inception, that functions in Sasuke's subconscious. "pain is love" or something equally true but equally ridiculous...Being able to control someone, doesn't give you the right to. Thinking you know whats best for someone doesn't give you the right to force your idea upon them. Sasuke crosses a line with Naruto when he actually tries to do harm. I think Naruto is like, "hey believe what ever you want man, cause hell, I get it, just don't hurt my friends" then at the same time Naruto is like "you don't honestly thing I'm going to let you get away with this, right?" I think Sasuke is in for the fight of his life this time, because Naruto would die gladly to protect his friends, and Sasuke isnt ready for that, I promise you. Sasuke won't want to die to achieve his goal, because without him, his goal can never come true, so he will put his life first, believing he holds the importance. Naruto will take Sasuke with him, if hes forced to, and be totally ok with that. He even warned Sasuke at their last meeting... its like Sasuke forgot, is too stupid to understand it, or just is ignorant enough to think he can take Naruto without losing... (he's so overconfident and conceited, a truest downfall there ever was for bad guys, classic for sure)

"if we fight again, we both will die"

Id go on, but if you werent already bored, you sure are getting that way, if youre still reading this...

[Prediction]
Sasuke will tell Naruto, that he will do whatever needs done, and thats what a true Hokage is, a hard man...like Danzo ironically... :devil: to free the world he must break the system and create it anew...

"because that which is destroyed can always be fixed and rebuilt"
sadly, if that comes at the cost of the lives of the leaders, and the followers that are in his way, then so be it.
no one is going to stop Sasuke from doing what he thinks is right, the definition of a zealot, maybe...
like I mentioned earlier, hes a jerk, and hes wrong...that's what a democracy/republic is all about...
the majority vote and decide what is best for everyone, not some psychotic, mentally unstable tyrant usurping everyone's choices and making his own, for them, without their approval...
Naruto is the ideal leader, he would do whats best for his people as he sees fit (which would usually be right, as he would be putting their own interests first, and would only act ultimately with their approval.)
Sasuke is just a tyrannical maniac who thinks he knows whats best for everyone, even though he is just a child, who was physically and mentally abused by his big brother, outclassed by his teammate (who he views as a lesser being)(he constantly, even recently, makes comments like "don't underestimate the uchiha" he has such a superiority complex like his shit doesn't stink, grow up dude)
They will fight to the death, both embracing their ideals. Ultimately Naruto will win, because he doesn't know how to give up, and is willing to die for his goal, unlike Sasuke. I don't know if either of them will die in the end...I know that Naruto doesn't want to kill Sasuke if he doesn't have to, and will do everything he can to find a peaceful resolution, I'm sure he would prefer that. That will be up to Sasuke in the end, if he stops, maybe they can both walk away from this...if he wont...then Naruto will be forced to go all the way and kill him. Id like to see Naruto do to Sasuke what he did to Gaara early in the series. He fought him toe to toe, tooth and nail, man to man all the way to exhaustion. He was literally crawling over to Gaara at the end using only his NECK and CHIN, that's ridiculous at best. Id like to think that Naruto can take everything Sasuke has, all the hatred, all the anger, all the evil, and stand in front of him as a friend and comrade. He will prevent Sasuke from doing evil by standing in front of him and taking the shots himself. If Sasuke metaphorically has a "loaded gun" then Naruto would rather take the bullets himself rather then let Sasuke use them on "robbing the liquor store" or committing the "bank robbery".
At the end of the day, I hope Naruto just beats the tar out of Sasuke and possibly knocks some sense into him...however unlikely that is...:dunno:
Like I said..Naruto wont give up, and would die for his goal of protecting those he loves...ultimately that is his advantage over Sasuke in this fight. In a mystical sense of powers and jutsu, his advantage comes from having what Id like to refer to as "outside chakra sources" He has his own Chakra, just like Sasuke, which is formidable, make no mistake. But he also has the ability to draw in nature's chakra (sasuke cant do this, and can only rely on his own chakra) Naruto also has the ability to supplement his own chakra with that of any of the tailed beasts within him (also something sasuke cant do) Sure Sasuke has some sick doujutsu powers in the "Shraningan" (rinnengan/sharingan) or "Omningan" but can he really hope to compete with Naruto's cleverness and seemingly endless stamina?

{questions quickly answered}
1.) hokage ARE chosen by the people through the representatives (the elders, the feudal lord, the high ranking jounin, the previous hokage) it is not a monarchy that follows some rite of succession... its like electing a president from a small cabinet of elders and peers and leaders. Danzo was never officially the sixth hokage because he kind of self elected himself and was never officially "inducted into the position" like a president who "swears in" upon taking up the position.
he was killed by Sasuke before that could happen, hence there is no sixth hokage...

2.) Madara was able to one shot the Biju with his rinnengan, so im not surprised Sasuke is able to chibaku them all with his upgraded eyes, though it definitely seems OP in scale with other stuff weve seen. i think hes the only one to ever achieve the omningan eye that he has "via eternal mangekou supplemented by original 1st generation so6p chakra"

3.) Sasuke apparently doesnt know that you cant kill the Bijuu, they just come back to life endlessly, their power is eternal as it is merely a representative of the juubi/godtree's chakra pool. though i dont suppose there is anything to prevent him from keeping them trapped and under control like he has them now. he just couldnt kill them, technically.

4.) why can Naruto continue to fight endlessly while Kakashi is utterly exhausted? we know that Naruto has one of the highest chakra pools and the fastest strongest regeneration of chakra in the entire series. He is uzumaki/senju and is also a jinchuuriki who totally haxxed the kage bunshin no jutsu, and mastered sage chakra. he can continually regenerate his supply of chakra inbetween conflicts, and probably refills to max within a short period of time, that for others would seem unrealistic. id say an hour would put him at full capacity, as silly as that sounds, most would have to wait an entire day, I bet.

5.) why was kaguya such a lame villian? she wasnt given much time to shine tbh. her goal was to take all "her" chakra back from everyone. i think she was pissed that her children were born with it, and that it was passed down the generations giving others the same power as her(if not in magnitude, at least in similarity) she believed it was hers, like a selfish child who wont share his prize toy with anyone. she messed with the wrong crew, thats for sure. Team 7 put her down in what seemed like the blink of an eye.

ill stop there for now...worked hard on this...would love to hear some good feedback.
thanks for reading, hope you enjoyed. :)
 

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I give it a 5. I know everyone wants to get to the action, but some of this talk was necessary for the progression of the story. They staked out their sides, know where each other stand and are good to go. Hopefully next week we get to the action.

I think Naruto has finally realized TNJ is not going to work this time. You can't TNJ someone who wants to kill you. I used to think that deep down that Sasuke had feelings for Naruto, Sakura and Kakashi but I'm not so sure of that anymore. I think there is still too much hatred in his heart to have room for any other emotions. Why put her under genjutsu? Why not just be honest and say I don't have feelings for you and I haven't given you much thought since I left the village?

Sasuke has not grown emotionally at all since Itachi killed the clan. I think his emotions are still tied up by his clan's decimation, the manipulation he went through by Oro, Itachi and Obito and having to deal with the fact that Itachi was not the monster he thought he was. I think he feels a lot of guilt for having killed Itachi and is trying to make up for it somehow by fixing the system that caused Itachi to feel he had no choice but to kill his clan.

Instead he has just transferred the hatred he had for Itachi to Naruto and the village system. He's arrogant, selfish and immature. He has never acknowledged anyone but himself and will not be willing to listen to anyone else until he is shown that he is not as powerful as he thinks he is. Unfortunately, Naruto is going to have to humble him.

Naruto might have said he and Sasuke are not Ashura and Indra, but Sasuke is Indra and apparently still thinks power is everything. I think when he told Naruto he'll teach him what his idea of a kage was he meant that he'll teach him by beating the shit out of him and by out strategizing him. He hasn't realized that just as he held back so did Naruto. Naruto did not show all of his cards either. Naruto might have been happy that Sasuke joined them on the battlefield but he was not happy with his attitude or of many of his actions.

I think Naruto has been wary of him and realized he hasn't changed at all. Since power is the only thing Sasuke respects, Naruto will have to show him just how powerful he has become. I think he's finally determined to do just that. I'm calling a draw where they are both so bruised, battered and weakened that they don't even have enough chakra left to kill each other because Sasuke finally realizes that every time he gets up so will Naruto.
Well said.i totally agrre with you
 
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Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 693 Discussion And 694 Predictions

I'll still keep shipping SasuSaku even though Sasuke just showed he doesn't feel anything for her,I guess he just isn't ready to love again ,well at this point exactly...He's pretty hardcore now and looking even more cooler than the Hebi Sasuke...This battle is going to be sick!
Why hold on to Sakura/Sasuke when she's dead?
 

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Re: Those parallels!

OK so.... HOLY CRAP!

S**T IS GETTING REAL!

First off, I TOTALLY THOUGHT SASUKE KILLED SAKURA. And honestly I wish he did, then Naruto would be fueled by anger and crap would start flying everywhere... BUT Kishi thought Sakura was too important to the "plot" I guess that it was just a genjutsu.

And also, bye bye all you SaruSaku people. It's over. Maybe.. Probably.

I love the fact that they went to the final valley. I am so f**king stoked.. I might die.. I might die. 5/5.
Sakura ISN'T dead? I'll have to re read it.
 

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Damn I literally jumped out of my chair as soon as I saw that penetration LOL!

OT: Good set-up chapter for the upcoming fight. While the chapter was loaded with dialogue, it was interesting to see Naruto's and Sasuke's different perspectives of the world. I also love the conversation between Sasuke and Kakashi and Sakura. I lol'ed so hard when Sasuke said he gives no **** about Sakura Lol
HAHA!!! You said "penetration". I see you... ;)
 

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Solid chapter 4/5
Connections are being made & reinforced but still disappointingly short.

Also, I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss SasuSaku idea yet; have a strong feeling that she's such an "annoyance" because she can agitate the little feelings he has left or familiar ones he's trying to suppress.
 

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Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 693 Discussion And 694 Predictions

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Best page ever =D
too bad it was just genjutsu... i started to like this chapter when i suppose this was true that sasuke pierce his teamates sakura with one sided love.. Too bad... tooo badd.. i was just a genjutsu :nuts::noes:
 

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Re: A True Hokage is chosen by the people!

Accept Orochimaru did have the backing of the village and everyone was disappointed and shocked when Minato was chosen instead of him. These are Oro's own words to Minato, Minato didn't deny it and Hiruzen, who was there to, also didn't deny it. Point? The people are igorant of shinobi matters, or maybe what is meant by 'the people' is the shinobi clans who founded the village and the many fodder shinobi in the village, guys (and girls) who actually know what's going on, who actually went to the battefields and fought alongside and under these guys.
What are you talking about? When was it ever mentioned that people were displeased because Minato was chosen over Orochimaru?
 

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Re: Piece of shit Kishimoto he always makes someone who should see Naruto's feats fai

The last scene of this fight:
Naruto hits Sasuke while he is on the ground.
That Sasuke turns to mud or rock.
Naruto: so he was a clone
The real Sasuke (sweating, and tired) comes up behind Naruto like Shodaim did to Madara.
Slices him with his sword, with his hand with the seal behind him.
As Sasuke says: I told you before I was always one step a head of you, and laughs a little.
That naruto goes poof.
Sasuke stands there in disbelief.
As the real naruto connects there seal hands together, and releases IT.
Sasuke looks at his foot and sees the seal of the flying thunder God,
And looks up to see a non sweaty, non tired Naruto in sage mode
And his fist coming streight at him.
Sasuke sends an electrical pulse up Naruto's right arm, that had already been burnt by Sasuke's black fire jutsu before Naruto could create a shadow clone, to be able to go seal the fire that was on his arm.
(The black fire will be Sasuke's first jutsu that he uses.)

Naruto connects a frog kata punch and sends sock waves threw Sasuke's body, crushing every bone in his body leaving a huge scar on the Uchiha brats perfectly delicate face.
And Naruto says: But you were only fighting a shadow clone. He then lets go of Sasuke's hand.
Sasuke goes sailing off the 1st Hokage's Head, and onto the bridge of Madara's nose. Cracking his nose, he slides off the nose and into the water. (Symbolizing he will never be Hokage, and he will never be as good as Madara Uchiha.)

A few hour's later Kikashi and the rest of the united shinobi alliance, finds Naruto's body, he is still a live and waking up. The burn marks on his arm and hand are permanent. Other than that he is ok, Sakura comes up to him, but he walks past her, and into Hinata's arm's. (I've always been pro NaruSaku but after what she just did). Naruto says lets go home, as he puts his arm around Hinata's neck.. And everybody follows Naruto home.

The next chapter 700:
Kikashi and Naruto are set up for Hokage. And a time skip....
Pretty good prediction.
 

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I don't understand why every one hates all the talking, sometimes - this chapter in particular- it makes the chapter. I'm so excited that they're at the valley of end!!! it's totally fitting.
The thing for me hating this chapter is not because of talk. For me, the manner in which they were talking was disaapointing.
I mean come on, the whole world's at stake here. Naruto was talking to Sasuke so normally and happily like it's a game. Kishi really f*cked that part up. They could have been shown to have an intense debate instead of that friendly lovey-dovey talks.

Even Hagoromo, at the end of 692, he was sown to be so worried and here, he's likle "Nothing's happened. Narutp will bring back Sasuke.".
What the hell? He should day Naruto will save the world by destroying Sasuke and sealing away Indra's soul.
 

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Re: Piece of shit Kishimoto he always makes someone who should see Naruto's feats fai

I like this, except, Sasuke will not be defeated here. Naruto may manage to connect their seals, but as a result his arm will be heavily damaged. That explains the bandages around his right arm.
That arm is probably bandaged because it has too much power. i doubt Sasuke could heavily injure Naruto.
 

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I wonder what's the significance of Madara being shown here???

I hope Kakashi won't pull a black zetsu on Madara with the help of the Sage or maybe take some of his powers or shit like that.
 

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Re: Piece of shit Kishimoto he always makes someone who should see Naruto's feats fai

Pretty good prediction.
Since I'm far to lazy to search through this thread that you quoted I'm going to use your post to write my thoughts about it...

The amount of wanking in that prediction is off the charts so heavily biased towards favoring Sasuke lol
 

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Re: Piece of shit Kishimoto he always makes someone who should see Naruto's feats fai

Since I'm far to lazy to search through this thread that you quoted I'm going to use your post to write my thoughts about it...

The amount of wanking in that prediction is off the charts so heavily biased towards favoring Sasuke lol
It was actually favoring Naruto except for those permanent burn marks thing.
 

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I think it would be funny if Naruto had Sasuke under a genjutsu...
When Sasuke finally realizes it he is forced to use Izamani to get out of it forcing his left eye shut. The eye with the Rinnegan. Because wasn't that what Jeria was trying to show Naruto all those years of training was a genjutsu.
 
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Chapter 693: Once Again... (same title with chapter 680). Meaning of the title: Naruto VS. Sasuke. One last battle. The way he ended PART I, same way will end PART II, with Naruto VS. Sasuke.
Sakura is ridiculous, says the same thing she sees Sasuke. Don't you understand girl, that Sasuke doesn't care about you and he doesn't love you? Even if she has grown up, some things remains the same...like Sakura.
This chapter could have been better if Sasuke killed Sakura for real, not a genjutsu. At least she won't talk anymore in the upcoming chapters. As for Kakashi, he doesn't need to involve in this, good thing he's overpowered.
We will found out Sasuke's real intentions and his opinions on what is like to be Hokage. Is he like Madara, just Hogoromo says or different?
They choose to fight in the same place they fought in Part I - Valley of the End. Sasuke standing on Madara's statue and Naruto on Hashirama's statue.
The Final Battle for the title of Hokage begins!
I wished if Sasuke revived Madara, but on second thought...I'm mistaken. This is one-one fight, no one will involve in battle, the moment we all have been waiting for, who is more powerful: Naruto or Sasuke?
 
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Re: Sasuke is really cocky.

Sasuke was cocky against Itachi in part 1. He got pummeled. Sasuke was cocky against Gaara in part 1. He got wrecked. Sasuke was cocky against Deidara. He had to be bailed out in a very suspect manner. Sasuke was cocky against Bee. He got his chest ripped open. Sasuke was cocky against the Kages. He had to be saved by Obito. Sasuke was cocky against Madara. He died. This is nothing new...
are you seriously crossing dat line.i get part1 but part2 dats just pushing it
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Re: Sasuke is really cocky.

Sasuke was cocky against Itachi in part 1. He got pummeled. Sasuke was cocky against Gaara in part 1. He got wrecked. Sasuke was cocky against Deidara. He had to be bailed out in a very suspect manner. Sasuke was cocky against Bee. He got his chest ripped open. Sasuke was cocky against the Kages. He had to be saved by Obito. Sasuke was cocky against Madara. He died. This is nothing new...
i get pt1 but pt2 u r seriously pushing it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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