Actually no, Sasuke arguably would have done better with CS2 which Itachi can easily dispatch of if he had killing intent.
He was using MS techniques out of intense emotion, not out of need. Shit logic on your part.
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Actually no, Sasuke arguably would have done better with CS2 which Itachi can easily dispatch of if he had killing intent.
He was using MS techniques out of intense emotion, not out of need. Shit logic on your part.
That was before Sasuke got his MS.
@bold: I'll need to see some manga material capable of backing this up, because from what i saw, Sasuke w/o his MS would've never been able to beat Danzo.
@2ndbold: Are you claiming that Sasuke's judgement was clouded and that he was reckless during that fight? Because that's completely false (
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Danzo is not killing CS2 Sasuke with Fuuton so you're point about him needing to survive that is moot, Sasuke simply uses his wings as a buffer or summons a snake to take the damage, view spoiler. Sasuke can also summon Manda which Danzo can do absolutely nothing to, as well as utilize snakes capable of binding Juugo, the Shinju roots and Suigetsu. Not to mention he can glide/take flight with CS.
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CS Sasuke has superior durability, speed and strength than MS Sasuke. CS Sasuke definitely pushes Danzo to mid/high difficulty depending on the circumstances, being that simple shuriken were enough to make him use Izanagi. CS Sasuke would utilize his more versatile arsenal, like Raiton variants (Chidori Nagashi) and Katon as well as his extensive skill with Shuriken.
For info about the snakes binding the Shinju, Orochimaru did it with the same snakes Sasuke used, I'm not going to provide scans unless absolutely necessary, I'm on mobile.
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Itachi curbstomps Danzo if Sasuke tsukuyomi could catch Danzo then itachi will just babyshake Danzo followed by totsKa amaterasu itachi's also smarter then Sasuke when it comes to battle that's if ka is restricted
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Lol at people saying Genjutsu is a factor in this fight and using Sasuke as an example: For 1) Danzo knows Itachi's full capability of his Genjutsu prowess, which is why he didn't even bother thinking to counter Sasuke's, which he made his comparison too.
2.) Danzo did NOT have Shisui's eye in this fight against Sasuke. Meaning he could of easily use the Sharingan ability of precog and being able to see through Genjutsu easily in this fight. So any genjutsu being used in this match up is null.
3.) "Hur Hur Dur, you think Danzo having the Sharingan is going to counter Tsukuyomi?" Doesn't have to as Izanagi is a perfect counter to this genjutsu. Itachi manpulating the time would mean that it was only a second in the real world. Thats 1 second of time wasted of Izanagi, lel. Danzo definitely takes advantage of this.
Itachi using MS is going to put himself in a vulnerable state for Danzo to end this match, which both will be useless in this ma
Except he isn't Sasuke nor will he be in the same position as Sasuke.
Except Shisui eye will tell him, via Sharingan ability, he is under a genjutsu and break it with it so all genjutsu is useless in this fight.
Danzo only did that because he knew he isn't going to die, so he didn't care. When he did care he was able to react one of the fastest tech in the series, Susanoo arrow. Add Sharingan in his arsenal and he deflects them all with Futon[
Katon is the only legit counter here, which Danzo can use that time to back stab Itachi with Futon, instead of using Futon once to open a gap. Amatersaru = gameover as you can't use this tech while using full Susanoo at the same time, as his defence will drop. Itachi isn't goign to have time when he won't know when Danzo is going to summon it, therefore Baku will already begin with his suction.
Last time I check Sasuke needed to use higher level Sussanoo to fully protect himself from his futon, which was pressuring it alone.
Except that its restricted and that it doesn't work on Danzo's personality.
Which Izanagi changes his fate and his position, to force him to
2.) Danzo did NOT have Shisui's eye in this fight against Sasuke. Meaning he could of easily use the Sharingan ability of precog and being able to see through Genjutsu easily in this fight. So any genjutsu being used in this match up is null.
3.) "Hur Hur Dur, you think Danzo having the Sharingan is going to counter Tsukuyomi?" Doesn't have to as Izanagi is a perfect counter to this genjutsu. Itachi manpulating the time would mean that it was only a second in the real world. Thats 1 second of time wasted of Izanagi, lel. Danzo definitely takes advantage of this.
Itachi using MS is going to put himself in a vulnerable state for Danzo to end this match, which both will be useless in this ma
Except he isn't Sasuke nor will he be in the same position as Sasuke.
Except Shisui eye will tell him, via Sharingan ability, he is under a genjutsu and break it with it so all genjutsu is useless in this fight.
Danzo only did that because he knew he isn't going to die, so he didn't care. When he did care he was able to react one of the fastest tech in the series, Susanoo arrow. Add Sharingan in his arsenal and he deflects them all with Futon[
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].Katon is the only legit counter here, which Danzo can use that time to back stab Itachi with Futon, instead of using Futon once to open a gap. Amatersaru = gameover as you can't use this tech while using full Susanoo at the same time, as his defence will drop. Itachi isn't goign to have time when he won't know when Danzo is going to summon it, therefore Baku will already begin with his suction.
Last time I check Sasuke needed to use higher level Sussanoo to fully protect himself from his futon, which was pressuring it alone.
Except that its restricted and that it doesn't work on Danzo's personality.
Which Izanagi changes his fate and his position, to force him to
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Danzo can't break yata mirror
Tsukuyomi gg
Fireball beats baku
Itachi low-mid diff
Tsukuyomi gg
Fireball beats baku
Itachi low-mid diff
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Good thing it doesn't protect 360 like his back
Which Izanagi counters hard as Tsukuyomi is effective in the real work for 1 secs. While only wasting 1 sec of Izanagi time lel.
While Danzo spam wind slashes from the back sure
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Danzo and Sasuke came in with relatively no knowledge on each other, and without KA in play, Sasuke canonically defeated Danzo. Note that he was weaker than Itachi at that time. Saying Danzo wins in this thread, where the conditions are pretty much the same as when he fought Sasuke, and when Itachi's arsenal is very very similar to Sasuke's is pretty much saying that Danzo would have beaten Sasuke in canon. And since Itachi is healthy here, stamina isn't a major issue, at least it won't be a bigger issue than it was for Sasuke, in canon.
Baku-Katon. (Canon, not debatable)
Fuuton-Susanoo. (Canon, not debatable)
Izanagi-Pressure him with Susanoo just how Sasuke did, but in CQC instead of long range since Itachi lacks arrows.
CQC-Itachi>Sasuke>Danzo when it comes to CQC, and Susanoo's activation already shat on Danzo's Curse Seal. (Canon, not debatable)
Any generic Genjutsu Danzo might use-Itachi's superior Genjutsu shits on it, I.E Tsukuyomi.
Lol. Itachi beats him. Not even debatable. Not in the slightest.
Baku-Katon. (Canon, not debatable)
Fuuton-Susanoo. (Canon, not debatable)
Izanagi-Pressure him with Susanoo just how Sasuke did, but in CQC instead of long range since Itachi lacks arrows.
CQC-Itachi>Sasuke>Danzo when it comes to CQC, and Susanoo's activation already shat on Danzo's Curse Seal. (Canon, not debatable)
Any generic Genjutsu Danzo might use-Itachi's superior Genjutsu shits on it, I.E Tsukuyomi.
Lol. Itachi beats him. Not even debatable. Not in the slightest.
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I don't even think CQC would be needed. Simple Kunai tactics (since Itachi specializes in that area) would work. You remember how reckless Danzo was with Izanagi?
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Except the conditions has Danzo using Shisui eyes here so your whole point it moot.
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Exactly. Lol. I literally cannot see how Danzo stands a chance.
For what? Sharingan Genjutsu? Another minute of Izanagi? Lol. Little details like that aren't going change the overall point. Whether you want to ignore canon or not, Itachi beats him.
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Danzo: "Ohmergawd I have 10 lives this is like a Mario Game >
"Brb going to run into the middle so Sasuke's Susano'o smashes my guts out.
-Resurrects-
Brb doing it again.
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No Genjutsu is useless in this fight, period.
More like Sharingan precog, and seeing through genjutsu lol. These two factor makes a major difference in this match up
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Danzo: "Ohmergawd I have 10 lives this is like a Mario Game >
Brb going to run into the middle so Sasuke's Susano'o smashes my guts out.
-Resurrects-
Brb doing it again.
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Lol, right. I was facepalming at Danzo throughout the initial part of the fight....
No, they don't. Especially pre cog. Seeing through Genjutsu might be helpful, but since Itachi doesn't fight exactly like Sasuke does, a mutual blow isn't going to be the final clash, and he won't need to trick him with Genjutsu to make him believe Izanagi is out. Not to mention If Itachi ever lands an Ocular Genjutsu (Which Sasuke, inferior in casting Genjutsu managed to do) its GG no re since Danzo isn't breaking Tsukuyomi.
So I agree, Genjutsu isn't useless...if its Tsukuyomi that is. Danzo doesn't stand a chance of victory. Sasuke and Itachi's arsenals are very similar yet he lost to Sasuke, and Sasuke didn't even reach his full power (Armored Susanoo) during that fight. Itachi already has every level of Susanoo MS has to offer.
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Breaking Tskuyomi isn't a problem, let him do it who cares lol. 1 secs passes (real world) by for Izanagi during the effects, which Danzo rewrites, while Itachi chakra+stamina lowers even further lol.
Must of been a typo to say that I agree Genjutsu is useful, because it is completely useless in this match. He lost to Sasuke because 1) he underestimated him, which he knows Itachi too much to do that and 2.) He doesn't have Shisui's eyes to do everything the Sharingan can do, that could of further nullify Sasuke's ways of winning that match.
Having one more level of Sussanoo means more stress to Itachi so its the same encounter regardless