Pein's Invasion

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So from the end of manga 407, Pein is supposedly on his way to Konoha. What will Konoha do to defend Naruto? Naruto isn't strong enough to fight Pein. Plus he can't just got 4-5 tails, that would create more chaos. Also Konan will probably be with Pein, possibly Tobi too. I wonder if Gaara and the sand will help the leaf. Gaara owes Naruto his life pretty much. And judging by the latest shippuden episode, regular chuunin and jounin from the leaf can't do much against Pein, Konan and possibly Tobi. They need to figure out Pein's identity, or the leaf will fall.

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So from the end of manga 407, Pein is supposedly on his way to Konoha. What will Konoha do to defend Naruto? Naruto isn't strong enough to fight Pein. Plus he can't just got 4-5 tails, that would create more chaos. Also Konan will probably be with Pein, possibly Tobi too. I wonder if Gaara and the sand will help the leaf. Gaara owes Naruto his life pretty much. And judging by the latest shippuden episode, regular chuunin and jounin from the leaf can't do much against Pein, Konan and possibly Tobi. They need to figure out Pein's identity, or the leaf will fall.

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i think really that naruto should go with the toads learn jutsu's perfect the ones he knows get more mature (hopefully) and know what to do durin situtations(experince)
 

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So from the end of manga 407, Pein is supposedly on his way to Konoha. What will Konoha do to defend Naruto? Naruto isn't strong enough to fight Pein. Plus he can't just got 4-5 tails, that would create more chaos. Also Konan will probably be with Pein, possibly Tobi too. I wonder if Gaara and the sand will help the leaf. Gaara owes Naruto his life pretty much. And judging by the latest shippuden episode, regular chuunin and jounin from the leaf can't do much against Pein, Konan and possibly Tobi. They need to figure out Pein's identity, or the leaf will fall.

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good point but theres something ive been wondering about if pain
moves out and none of the bodies are the real one then cualdlnt sum1 kill all the pains but stil nothing whould happen and hen he returns to attack the village agian evreyone whould finally understand what "the real one isnt there" means
 

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<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=158424" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-158424">Steinbiz said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent"> So from the end of manga 407, Pein is supposedly on his way to Konoha. What will Konoha do to defend Naruto? Naruto isn't strong enough to fight Pein. Plus he can't just got 4-5 tails, that would create more chaos. Also Konan will probably be with Pein, possibly Tobi too. I wonder if Gaara and the sand will help the leaf. Gaara owes Naruto his life pretty much. And judging by the latest shippuden episode, regular chuunin and jounin from the leaf can't do much against Pein, Konan and possibly Tobi. They need to figure out Pein's identity, or the leaf will fall.<br /> <br /> ..........comments.......... </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink"><a>Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>even if they figure his identity it still wont help them, from the way i see it Tsunade is gonna join jiraiya soon along with of the leaf's ninja's. I dont know what Pain will do when he finds out naruto has escaped with the toad elders. Retreat i dont think so, i think he might takeover konoha like he did amagakeru</div>
 

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i think i heard something about naruto going away for a month to train with the toads and tsunade said to carry yamato but the toad said no naruto have to do it alone. and pein will not reach before naruto leaves
 

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I'm assuming that Naruto will be learning how to control the 9-tails power by himself, that is why Yamato wasn't invited along. Naruto so far has been relying on other people to control the fox. He needs to do so himself.
 

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I'm assuming that Naruto will be learning how to control the 9-tails power by himself, that is why Yamato wasn't invited along. Naruto so far has been relying on other people to control the fox. He needs to do so himself.
its not that it s just his body can't handle it thats why when he goes 4th it kills his cells then recovers them shortening his life
 

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Naruto loses control the more he gets angry. Its a continuing cycle that can only be stopped by Yamato or with that seal from Kakashi. Naruto get more angry = more power comes out = less self control = more angry = more power comes out. Remember, he starts to lose it even at 3-tails, not 4. Maybe he won't learn to control more of the 9-tails, but he definitely can't control the power by himself.

Remember that Naruto's Rasen-Shurrikan does damage to his body, so Tsunade said that he shouldn't use that technique anymore?????

Well what if Naruto learns to draw out the 9-tails chakara to make the rasen-shurrikan??? That chakara automatically heals Naruto. So why not use its healing ability and its amazing power, to counter act the destructive side affects of the technique?!?!?!?!
 
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<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=172358" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-172358">leonmccash said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent"> Naruto loses control the more he gets angry. Its a continuing cycle that can only be stopped by Yamato or with that seal from Kakashi. Naruto get more angry = more power comes out = less self control = more angry = more power comes out. Remember, he starts to lose it even at 3-tails, not 4. Maybe he won't learn to control more of the 9-tails, but he definitely can't control the power by himself.<br /> <br /> Remember that Naruto's Rasen-Shurrikan does damage to his body, so Tsunade said that he shouldn't use that technique anymore????? <br /> <br /> Well what if Naruto learns to draw out the 9-tails chakara to make the rasen-shurrikan??? That chakara automatically heals Naruto. So why not use its healing ability and its amazing power, to counter act the destructive side affects of the technique?!?!?!?! </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink"><a>Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>the kyuubi's chakra also does damage to his body even more saw than the rasherinkun. His body wasnt made to handle that much chakra or the cycle of damage and healing. If he uses the kyuubi's chakra on a regular basis , he'll die young</div>
 

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My point is that, if the 9-tails innate ability is to heal, which everyone marvels at, why not learn to draw out that ability to heal himself while using its power to fuel the Rasen-shurrikan. Naruto damages himself using his own chakara, and then heals after using the 9-tails. Why not use the 9-tails to form the RS and counteract the damage to begin with???

Naruto's body only gets damaged when the tails start to form. You can't believe that Gara was damaging his body, just by the sand acting by itself. The difference with Naruto, is that he can control the 9-tails chakara at this Pre-1tail level, while Garas' acts on its own. Take this to the next level...

Gara's sand technique was formed by the demon's chakara manifesting itself into a usable technique. Naruto is only able to manifest the 9-tails into a physical form of chakara (the Demon's Cloak). While, Naruto has learned to turn his own chakara into physical forms, IE Rasengan, and now Rasen-Shurrikan, but he doesn't use the demon's chakara for it. Which ultimately sets him apart from other Jinchuikis.

Kabuto and Tsunade both have techniques that heal themselves, while doing damage in the long run. Just because it does damage in the long run, doesn't make the technique horrible to use. Kabuto was going to die from Naruto's first rasengan, but he healed himself as it hit him.... Along those lines with Naruto using the RS.

In the end, its like this analogy. If you are on a desert island, would you drink your own urine to survive? It will harm you in the long run, and you will die from it eventually, but you will survive longer.
 
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<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=172492" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-172492">leonmccash said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent"> My point is that, if the 9-tails innate ability is to heal, which everyone marvels at, why not learn to draw out that ability to heal himself while using its power to fuel the Rasen-shurrikan. Naruto damages himself using his own chakara, and then heals after using the 9-tails. Why not use the 9-tails to form the RS and counteract the damage to begin with???<br /> <br /> Naruto's body only gets damaged when the tails start to form. You can't believe that Gara was damaging his body, just by the sand acting by itself. The difference with Naruto, is that he can control the 9-tails chakara at this Pre-1tail level, while Garas' acts on its own. Take this to the next level... <br /> <br /> Gara's sand technique was formed by the demon's chakara manifesting itself into a usable technique. Naruto is only able to manifest the 9-tails into a physical form of chakara (the Demon's Cloak). While, Naruto has learned to turn his own chakara into physical forms, IE Rasengan, and now Rasen-Shurrikan, but he doesn't use the demon's chakara for it. Which ultimately sets him apart from other Jinchuikis. <br /> <br /> Kabuto and Tsunade both have techniques that heal themselves, while doing damage in the long run. Just because it does damage in the long run, doesn't make the technique horrible to use. Kabuto was going to die from Naruto's first rasengan, but he healed himself as it hit him.... Along those lines with Naruto using the RS. <br /> <br /> In the end, its like this analogy. If you are on a desert island, would you drink your own urine to survive? It will harm you in the long run, and you will die from it eventually, but you will survive longer. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink"><a>Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> that could work as long as the kyuubi's chakra cloak and its tail doesnt form</div>
 

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Yeah, because think about it. Sasuke was able to prevent the demon's cloak from coming out. But he couldn't stop Naruto's healing ability. That could be the weakness Naruto needs to exploit in the MS. Use the healing ability in a focused manner...
 

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<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=172522" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-172522">leonmccash said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent"> Yeah, because think about it. Sasuke was able to prevent the demon's cloak from coming out. But he couldn't stop Naruto's healing ability. That could be the weakness Naruto needs to exploit in the MS. Use the healing ability in a focused manner... </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink"><a>Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>he didnt prevent it from coming out, before naruto met sasuke he promised not to use the kyuubi's chakra. Plus naruto was still suffering from the damage the kyuubi's chakra did to him, remember he fell down during the fight</div>
 

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The only problem I see is that the Rasen-Shurrikan severs the vessels that carry chakra throughout the body. So unless the fox's chakra healed that then it wouldn't work. It's not the broken bones that threatened Naruto it was the threat of not being able to use jutsus.
 

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He fell down during the fight yes, but look and see right before Sasuke entered Naruto's subsconscience. Naruto had the demon eyes... and then after Sasuke left his subsconscience, his eyes were blue again. Sasuke "popped the bubble" that was the 9-tails seeping through the gate. Possibly Itachi's gift to Naruto was to prevent Sasuke using his MS, and from going through the gate and gaining control of both the demon and naruto.

Point being, Gara's demons innate ability was to protect, Naruto's was to heal. Gara has learned to take advantage of it, while Naruto has not.
 

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The only problem I see is that the Rasen-Shurrikan severs the vessels that carry chakra throughout the body. So unless the fox's chakra healed that then it wouldn't work. It's not the broken bones that threatened Naruto it was the threat of not being able to use jutsus.
but why cant he just let the kage bunshins do the rasenshuriken? and the problem is gone:p
 

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<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=172564" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-172564">mihcom said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent"> but why cant he just let the kage bunshins do the rasenshuriken? and the problem is gone<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" data-shortname=":p" /> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink"><a>Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>he should dump rasenshuriken and came up with a better justu, rasenshuriken is in not in the same level as kirin or amaterasu. i want him to learn space time ninjustu<br /> <br /> and guys do u think kakashi copied amaaterasu, look in this chapter in ph 10 and 11<br /> <div class="messageHide messageHide--link"> You must be registered for see links </div></div>
 

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he should dump rasenshuriken and came up with a better justu, rasenshuriken is in not in the same level as kirin or amaterasu. i want him to learn space time ninjustu

and guys do u think kakashi copied amaaterasu, look in this chapter in ph 10 and 11
I don't think he can copy a technique that has already been casted, I think he can only copy a jutsu while a person is performing the seals.

But why he activated the MS remains unknown, but you may be right.
 

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i think kakashi will able to defeat one of the pein sidekicks by using his MS. if one of the pein will be dead which means one of the top shinobi will be dead as well, or maybe at least a couple of them.
 
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