[Discussion] Devil Fruit misconception and why Luffy maybe can eat 2

[Bobby Brown]

I see a lot of people talk about Devil Fruits having actual little devils in them which give the power. This was a statement made by the wolf guy of CP9,Jabra, which the other members basically laughed at him for believing.

Blueno then explains that a persons body will burst if they eat 2 DF's.

How do bodies burst? By expanding. Who do we know that can expand? Luffy.

He's stretched himself as Monster Luffy and as Giant Luffy when he ate that midget girl who could change sizes.

This would/could also help with the people I've seen asking why Luffy doesn't look like he's aged much, Luffy could eat a 2nd DF his body would try to burst but just expand instead giving him a bigger appearance.

Also as we've seen with Blackbeard, there ARE ways to avoid death after eating two fruits. Maybe this is one other way, where the existing DF allows you to consume another like the Yami Yami no Mi seems to.

Lel, filler scenes are filler. That has as much merit as Luffy being an island buster pre-ts (when he destroyed Shiki's island).

Thats how and why Luffy will be able to eAt two devil fruits. Now its just a matter of wondering which one will he eat.

Plz, just stop it; Oda said Luffy will always be a rubberman - and that's not some databook bullshit, that's an answer straight from a SBS.

 

[chopstickchakra]

Lel, filler scenes are filler. That has as much merit as Luffy being an island buster pre-ts (when he destroyed Shiki's island).

Plz, just stop it; Oda said Luffy will always be a rubberman - and that's not some databook bullshit, that's an answer straight from a SBS.

I couldn't remember if that girl was filler or not but Monster Luffy from Thriller Bark was canon right?

Also Oda also said that Usopp would always be the weakest Straw Hat but if you go by things shown in the manga then he clearly isn't. He has greater physical strength then Nami, plus he's the only reason she has a weapon in the first place. What Oda says and what Oda shows don't always equal up, early on quotes can give way to new ideas.

 

[Bobby Brown]

I couldn't remember if that girl was filler or not but Monster Luffy from Thriller Bark was canon right?

1.) Yes, that chick is filler (the filler arc leading up to Film Z).
2.) They're two different things: that chick went inside him and expanded; whereas with Nightmare Luffy (who I assume is "Monster Luffy), is due to his spirit containing 100 shadows, this was something that was yet to be done because more than a few shadows overpowers one's mind but Luffy's spirit overpowered those foreign "souls". It wasn't stated (IIRC) that ones body will burst having more shadows.

Also Oda also said that Usopp would always be the weakest Straw Hat but if you go by things shown in the manga then he clearly isn't. He has greater physical strength

'Cause we've seen what Chopper & Nami are capable of, yeah? You can't say Oda's words have been proven wrong when the full extent of those involved has yet to be shown; E.G. Franky has done way more impressive shit than Sanji, does that mean he's stronger than him, since he hasn't illustrated any impressive feat like Franky?
Furthermore hasn't detailed any impressive feat sans seeing ****s auras - and that feat in a one-on-one battle is unless your opponent is Van Augur and he's many, many miles away from you sniping from within buildings-to-buildings. It's still debateable that Nami is >him; until she gets as much battle-time as he has, you can't say who's stronger unless you use Oda's words.

Nami, plus he's the only reason she has a weapon in the first place.

That is the most retarded thing I have ever read as a reason to why Usopp is >Nami. So I take it EL Zoro was weaker than the shopkeeper who sold him the Yubashiri? And Sabo is weaker than the fighting fish who he took the MMnM off?

 

[chopstickchakra]

1.) Yes, that chick is filler (the filler arc leading up to Film Z).
2.) They're two different things: that chick went inside him and expanded; whereas with Nightmare Luffy (who I assume is "Monster Luffy), is due to his spirit containing 100 shadows, this was something that was yet to be done because more than a few shadows overpowers one's mind but Luffy's spirit overpowered those foreign "souls". It wasn't stated (IIRC) that ones body will burst having more shadows.

'Cause we've seen what Chopper & Nami are capable of, yeah? You can't say Oda's words have been proven wrong when the full extent of those involved has yet to be shown; E.G. Franky has done way more impressive shit than Sanji, does that mean he's stronger than him, since he hasn't illustrated any impressive feat like Franky?
Furthermore hasn't detailed any impressive feat sans seeing ****s auras - and that feat in a one-on-one battle is unless your opponent is Van Augur and he's many, many miles away from you sniping from within buildings-to-buildings. It's still debateable that Nami is >him; until she gets as much battle-time as he has, you can't say who's stronger unless you use Oda's words.


That is the most retarded thing I have ever read as a reason to why Usopp is >Nami. So I take it EL Zoro was weaker than the shopkeeper who sold him the Yubashiri? And Sabo is weaker than the fighting fish who he took the MMnM off?

Completely unrelated comparisons, both of those were strong without the weapon you mention. Nami had nothing to offer in combat until Usopp created her weapon for her. We can talk what if's and say she could eventually have found her own but since you want to stick to exactly what Oda says then Usopp is the reason Nami can fight at all in the series. No Usopp, no Climatact, and what's really stronger a gun/sword she could buy or the climatact?

And what at I was getting at about Nightmare Luffy was his body can reshape, which could prevent the exploding caused by eating 2 DF's.

 

[Bobby Brown]

Completely unrelated comparisons, both of those were strong without the weapon you mention. Nami had nothing to offer in combat until Usopp created her weapon for her. We can talk what if's and say she could eventually have found her own but since you want to stick to exactly what Oda says then Usopp is the reason Nami can fight at all in the series. No Usopp, no Climatact, and what's really stronger a gun/sword she could buy or the climatact?

Just because he gave her the weapon doesn't mean he's automatically >her, point-blank period; have you never heard of the concept of student surpassing master? Seriously, how ****ing dense can you be? Franky used Wapometal to construct "General Franky", so is Wapo stronger than General Franky but not normal Franky? Indeed my earlier comparisons were satirically unrelated, but that latest one pertains to exactly the point you're trying to make: people who give you a weapon you use to fight are > you; Dr. Erskine is the one who transformed Steve Rogers into Captain America, but is the Captain weaker than him? God-****ing no!

And what at I was getting at about Nightmare Luffy was his body can reshape, which could prevent the exploding caused by eating 2 DF's.

1.) Do you even know what kind of explosion it is? I'm pretty sure it ain't some chemical reaction bullshit 'cause DFs are completely different to anything that denotes to real-world physics. So it's obvious that if an explosion does occur, it's something that cancels out everything related to their DF and annihilates them completely; meaning if Luffy consumes another DF he won't expand, he'll simply vaporize into nothingness.
2.) If someone else were given 100 shadows - say Zoro for example (he took it to protect Luffy so his spirit overpowering the shadows is without question) - their physique will also change because it's an evolutionary phase (they adapt to the new strengths given to them).

 

[Punk Hazard]

I couldn't remember if that girl was filler or not but Monster Luffy from Thriller Bark was canon right?

Also Oda also said that Usopp would always be the weakest Straw Hat but if you go by things shown in the manga then he clearly isn't. He has greater physical strength then Nami, plus he's the only reason she has a weapon in the first place. What Oda says and what Oda shows don't always equal up, early on quotes can give way to new ideas.

Nope. Oda says he always intends for Usopp to be the weakest, meaning he's gonna make sure he writes their powers to encompass that. If you think Oda of all people is gonna forget that, then you don't know Oda.

Just because Usopp gave her her weapon, doesn't mean he is better than she. Just because Usopp is physically stronger doesn't mean he's gonna win in a fight against her. His brand new baby Kenbonshoku isn't gonna help that much either.

 

[Bobby Brown]

Just because Usopp gave her her weapon, doesn't mean he is better than she. Just because Usopp is physically stronger doesn't mean he's gonna win in a fight against her. His brand new baby Kenbonshoku isn't gonna help that much either.

Thank **** someone else has said this!

 

[Punk Hazard]

Thank **** someone else has said this!

You should edit your post to my edit, I misspoke.

 

[Bobby Brown]

You should edit your post to my edit, I misspoke.

Lol, I read that as "he is better than she". Since you were talking about Usopp always being the weakest, it was only natural for me to think you thought that.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Lol, I read that as "he is better than she". Since you were talking about Usopp always being the weakest, it was only natural for me to think you thought that.

LOL I thought I typed the same thing at first xD