[Discussion] Sabo and Zoro vs Doflamingo and Vergo
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WoldOfFingo
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Oh god this would be such a rape fest
Sabo obliterates DD med diff and Zoro chops Vergo into cubes
Sabo obliterates DD med diff and Zoro chops Vergo into cubes
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2. The Sanji vs Vergo fight was interrupted we don't know if Sanji could have done more damage than he did. Also, Sanji's body has weakened because it was attacked by Caesar when Nami was in it.
3. No because Law was unable to fight because Vergo had his heart. In Zoro vs Vergo no one has an advantage like that.
4. Like you said it was by surprise, also I guess Hancock is a speed demon because she was able to kick Smoker by surprise.
5. Versus threads rely mostly on feats, but if you have a rank like VA, Admiral, FA, yonko, and PK hype can be used. But since Zoro is VA level himself it cant be used to make Smoker superior. It was never implied that he had more moves so we cant use that.
6. Luffys Marine rival got low diffed by his one of his Pirate rivals, who is on equal footing with Luffy.
Sabo is no good against admiral level fighter as already proved in manga. Remember that Fujitora actually has no intention of seriously fighting Sabo.
I don't call it shitting pants, He was careful about his opponent. Why would he start life/death battle over such a small reason? He knew that he's at a disadvantage so he avoided battle with Aokiji. If he fears him then he wouldn't have attempted to kill Smoker to began with. He managed to escape from Aokiji's ICE which is something even Jozu couldn't pull.
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You see flaw in your comment?
First you say Smoker is stronger or equal than Zoro and that you say Zoro would do better.
On topic: Team one mid to high diff.
Sabo > Doflamingo >>>> Zoro > Vergo
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What has Sabo shown that places him > doflamingo ?
The feats Doffy is showing handling law and a gear 2 luffy at once mixed with his hype and speed/strength feats to me (for now) puts him > Sabo
All Sabo has done is get toyed with by an admiral someone who doffy briefly clashed with....
Sabo has not shown any feats to put him > doffy let alone in a whole another tier than doffy.
The feats Doffy is showing handling law and a gear 2 luffy at once mixed with his hype and speed/strength feats to me (for now) puts him > Sabo
All Sabo has done is get toyed with by an admiral someone who doffy briefly clashed with....
Sabo has not shown any feats to put him > doffy let alone in a whole another tier than doffy.
2. Vergo nearly broke his leg with one kick. Whereas Smoker was able to fight with Vergo for a while.
3. What does that have to do with why Vergo went full body CoA on Law?
4/5. She caught him off guard, this was before Smoker even had haki. That's a different scenario from Luffy using a gatling directly to Smoker and Smoker jumping towards him & pinning him down. I'm not saying he's faster than gear second Luffy but he's pretty fast. Smoker was also keeping with Vergo a lot better than Sanji was. There's nothing that states otherwise. He was able to hurt with CoA punches as well.
6. Vergo got one shot'd (Vergo lost a lot more quickly than Smoker did) as well but didn't you say Vergo would high-diff. Zoro? Law's DF is haxed and I'm sure you know that already. Besides, Smoker was doing pretty well. He nearly pinned him down....
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He lost because he was careless. Even though he knew how Law's DF worked he was still making mistakes/being reckless during the fight. Zoro got low-diff'd by the yeti cool brothers, I guess he's weak too. xD You've still yet had to refute that Oda had portrayed them as near equals for so long. It'd be a lot better to see where Smoker stands when he fights Luffy again. Law could of done the same thing to Zoro as well.
Who did Smoker fight during PH? Law, Vergo & Doflamingo, right? If we placed Zoro in those fights, how would he do? He would of got low-diff'd by Law just like Smoker & Vergo did. He would of got mid-diff'd by Vergo seeing how Vergo was outclassing Sanji in speed and we already know that Sanji is faster than Zoro; so how would Zoro be pushing Vergo to high-diff.? Vergo also broke Smoker's juttle that was coated in CoA as well and he did it pretty casually as well. If Smoker/Sanji got beat pretty easily then I don't see how Zoro would push Vergo to high-diff. It's more like mid-diff. As for Doflamingo, you already know how much Luffy is struggling with him. Zoro fanboys are just lucky that Oda won't give Zoro an unfair fight/bad-matchup like that.
Lol ? If you read the other posts, I said that Smoker had a bad matchup with Vergo. Zoro would do better but not by a large gap. He would get still mid-diff.'d by Vergo since Vergo is not only really strong but he's really fast. Zoro hasn't really been known for being fast. He was known for being physical strong, not so much speed which does play quite a big role when you're fighting with someone like Vergo.
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Sanji is faster than Zoro yes but Zoro has faster reactions than Sanji which can counter vergos speed e.g Zoro dodging kumas pad cannon which was moving at the speed of light on thriller bark
No? LOL they don't move at the speed of light and those beams need to charge up before being used.Sanji is faster than Zoro yes but Zoro has faster reactions than Sanji which can counter vergos speed e.g Zoro dodging kumas pad cannon which was moving at the speed of light on thriller bark
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The outrageous part of your earlier post was that you said he would beat Sabo mid diff.