so.. who do you believe is the strongest

[KCMNaruto]

If that's your ignorant way of looking at things.

Actually, it's because Madara and Kaguya are above Hagoromo in terms of feats and hype. Either way, DMS Obito takes him down as well.

too bad, first statement counts, you should know that rule

Your second statement carries no value, now. stay mad

Also Past Kaguya would shit at everyone. DMS Obito only hope would be escaping to Kamui dimenssion and staying there for whole life until death.

 

[NOemotions]

Kaguya obviously.

 

[The Necromancer]

too bad, first statement counts, you should know that rule

Your second statement carries no value, now. stay mad

Also Past Kaguya would shit at everyone. DMS Obito only hope would be escaping to Kamui dimenssion and staying there for whole life until death.

What a flawless debate. No holes there. How could anyone ignore this Adonis of a post, full of manga scans and factual accounts of feats?

 

[Bronze]

Madara shits on your favourite.

 

[xxSAGExx]

Who do you believe is the strongest character?

Madara in mine.. with 2 Rinnegan he even looked like he was untouchable and he wasn't even using his 3rd (SHA)Rinnegan, except for Infinite Tsukuyomi.

Kishi couldn't kill him in another way than a backstab.. We also shouldn't forget what Obito said about his 2 original Rinnegan.

Though that's just what i believe. Let me know what you think about (what I say about) who the strongest is.​

I'll say Madara, even though all of the Juubi jins were nerfed, we've seen a lot more of what Madara is capable of

 

[TonyDawn1379]

For kaguya to be sealed it needed kakashi , sakura , sasuke , obito , hagoromo , all kages and naruto ...
But Madara ........ A BLACK HAND

 

[KCMNaruto]

What a flawless debate. No holes there. How could anyone ignore this Adonis of a post, full of manga scans and factual accounts of feats?

Thaks for praise, you didn't need to do that

On serious note: Onmyoudon which Hagoromo has > Kamui

 

[KillerbYo]

Kaguya
Hagoroomo
Hashirama
Madara

Then Naruto and Sasuke

Then Kages

Manga facts.

 

[The Necromancer]

Thaks for praise, you didn't need to do that

On serious note: Onmyoudon which Hagoromo has > Kamui

That's why it worked when Kaguya used it, right? Or when Senjutsu enhanced techniques were used on JJObito, right?

 

[Ansatsuken]

Kaguya is the strongest in nv

No explaination needed

 

[MadaraReturns]

For kaguya to be sealed it needed kakashi , sakura , sasuke , obito , hagoromo , all kages and naruto ...
But Madara ........ A BLACK HAND

Error, too much bullshit hahahaha.. no but seriously.. you count Sakura, Kakashi, Obito too while they didn't even seal her, they just helped fighting her, but those same people also helped fighting Madara, except for the fact that Kakashi and Sakura didn't even scratch Maddy. I don't even wanna begin about the bold, the Kage and Rikudo just summoned Naruto and Sasuke back lol..

 

[EPICMenma]

1. That was Pre Jin Hagoromo, who I believe is weaker than JJ Madara.

2. Lol, no, he can't. She'd bust through any CT he makes with ease. I hope you aren't saying this based on the fact that Six Paths Chibaku Tensei is what sealed her away, when that sealing jutsu locked away her abilities, turned her into CT's core, removed the Bijuu from her, and then locked her up.

"Six Paths CT "is Yin-Yang Fuinjutsu Technique. Naruto had Yang Release while Sasuke had Yin Release . JJ Madara has both, so it's possible for him to use Six Paths CT. I'm not stating facts but it's my theory.

 

[KCMNaruto]

That's why it worked when Kaguya used it, right? Or when Senjutsu enhanced techniques were used on JJObito, right?

Kaguya's TSB was occupied with Dimension creating, and it was never stated able to multitask.
Basicaly she couldn't stop this.
Senjutsu enhanced techniques yes, it would bypass Onmyoudon.

However Onmyoudon > Ninjutsu

 

[The Necromancer]

Kaguya's TSB was occupied with Dimension creating, and it was never stated able to multitask.
Basicaly she couldn't stop this.
Senjutsu enhanced techniques yes, it would bypass Onmyoudon.

However Onmyoudon > Ninjutsu

Onmyoudon has nothing to do with Gudoudamas. They are entirely different techniques.

Obito has Hagoromo's senjutsu chakra in his eyes, therefor Kamui >> Onmyoudon. Sorry.

 

[KCMNaruto]

Onmyoudon has nothing to do with Gudoudamas. They are entirely different techniques.

Obito has Hagoromo's senjutsu chakra in his eyes, therefor Kamui >> Onmyoudon. Sorry.

@ bold part, wtf ?

Obito has no senjutsu, he just has Hagoromo's chakra not Hagoromo's Senjutsu chakra. Obito had only Rikudou Senjutsu while being Juubi Jinchurki.

Also you are wrong that Onmyoudon has nothing to do with goudama

Onmyoudon is goudama + erasive ninjutsu ability of yin/yang release.

That why Hiruzen could regenerate while Minato couldn't.

 

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*** change was his downfall though.

 

[KidGamer65]

You mean beat Juubi with Kaguya('s will) inside him.. Madara can spam meteorites from the sky without being blessed with Kaguya's chakra directly. Madara could probably do the Moon thing too. It isn't even a question IF Madara could make someone the core of the Chibaku Tensei (considering Sasuke alone could do this too), but if he can create a Moon from it.. Though that doesn't really matter because even if Madara's were (a little) smaller, he could still seal his opponent.

Madara needing the Juubi to replicate a feat that Hagoromo can pull off without the Juubi doesn't mean much.

IMPORTANT: Rikudo didn't even create the Moon as far as I know, because when Kaguya was getting sealed by N & S we saw a flashback of H & H sealing her together. Who knows that Rikudo alone could even create a moon, considering Sasuke gained his powers from Rikudo, but still Rikudo didn't have the Sharinnegan while Sasuke did

That scan means nothing. Hagoromo had to have created the moon on his own later on, otherwise how would the Mazo get there? There was probably another way to use the Sealing Jutsu, allowing them to seal the Juubi into Hagoromo. If they really sealed her in the moon right then and there, then Hagoromo never would have been the Juubi's Jin, and we know that he was.

"Six Paths CT "is Yin-Yang Fuinjutsu Technique. Naruto had Yang Release while Sasuke had Yin Release . JJ Madara has both, so it's possible for him to use Six Paths CT. I'm not stating facts but it's my theory.

Nope. No Sun and Moon Seal means no Six Paths Chibaku Tensei.

 

[Bronze]

*** change was his downfall though.

Rustled again.

 

[TwistedSmile]

Rustled again.

Huh? Oh, sorry man, didn't intend to rustle you this once... Lol