Prime Hiruzen vs Hashirama

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Both men have been called the God of Shinobi - but, let's face it, Prime Hiruzen is probably too op for Hashi
Hashirama can go SM

Scenario 1: Hashirama by himself
Scenario 2: Hashirama + Tobirama

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Hashirama shits on Hiruzen and his monkey pet No diff
 

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Prime Hiruzen obliterates Hashirama. Old Hiruzen gets stomped however
 

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It's funny how both of these guys were praised by kabuto.

Even Kabuto stated that he is the strongest of the hokages.

Hiruzen by hype>>>>>Hashirama by far

So no amount of god of shinobi states is going to make any difference in this thread.

Realistically all hyped aside......

The true order of strongest goes down as Hashirama, Tobirama, Minato, and then Hiruzen.

Tobirama and minato are speed, while Hashirama and Hiruzen are defense.

I believe it will come down to stamina and just sm enhanced strength.

Mokuton can't do much to break through Hiruzen's Enma staff defenses.
 

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Hashirama easily. Prime Hiruzen doesn't exist.
 

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The true order of strongest goes down as Hashirama, Tobirama, Minato, and then Hiruzen.

Tobirama is not stronger than Minato, he is not even in the same level. :|
so, no you're order disagree with the manga in term of Minato & Hiruzen as well...

OT: Hashirama wins by feats.
 

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Tobirama is not stronger than Minato, he is not even in the same level. :|
so, no you're order disagree with the manga in term of Minato & Hiruzen as well...

OT: Hashirama wins by feats.

That's just pushing it. They're on par. Minato takes him high diff and that's only because Minato has more prepped Kunai
 

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That's just pushing it. They're on par. Minato takes him high diff and that's only because Minato has more prepped Kunai

Not when Minato can end a freaking war, when Tobirama can't handle 20 fodders even with help of 6 of his students. U_U




anyway, lets stay on topic. U_U
 

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Hah. A non-believer. You think just because he wasn't strong as Old Hiruzen he wasn't strong as Prime Hiruzen... pfft. They called him the god of shinobi for a reason.

Show me feats of Prime Hiruzen, please.
 

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Not when Minato can end a freaking war, when Tobirama can't handle 20 fodders even with help of 6 of his students. U_U


Lol, you need to reread the manga. They weren't "fodder" they were a highly skilled unit
 

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Lol, sadly I read the manga and those are always treated the same.
 

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Tobirama is not stronger than Minato, he is not even in the same level. :|
so, no you're order disagree with the manga in term of Minato & Hiruzen as well...

OT: Hashirama wins by feats.

Lol what?

With Gojo and Edo tensei he is....

Tell me what else Minato can do to top Tobirama?

Also, Hiruzen is all hype he didn't stand a second against the mindless Juubi Obito.
 

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Lol what?
With Gojo and Edo tensei he is....
Tell me what else Minato can do to top Tobirama?
Also, Hiruzen is all hype he didn't stand a second against the mindless Juubi Obito.

1- As for Tobirama and Minato, we can debate here

and you can see my opinion in them in details.

2- nor did the other Senju, Tobirama was the first one to be defeated, was he not? Lol
 

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Prime Hiruzen does exist, you people act as if he is fanfiction. . .he did once exist, however he has no feats.

Hashirama stomps.
 

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Neutralizer neg-diffs. Chojo kebutsu gets reversed onto Hashi and Rikuzen finishes him off with an 8th gate blitz without even dying.

In all seriousness, Prime Hiruzen's power cannot be measured by Kishi let alone the versus Colosseum. Comparing the unfathomable strength of a deity to plebeian mortals is downright immoral. Hence, Prime Hiruzen should be restricted in these hypothetical battles as it is unquestionably unfair to the opposing party.

Manga Hiruzen vs. Hashirama goes to the first hokage low-diff U_U
 

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Hiruzen wins scenario 1 mid difficulty and scenario 2 high difficulty.
 

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Hashirama wrecks him
 
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