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Kishimoto trashed and trolled Madara. His plan came out to be a fraud, he was manipulated by BZ, he was owned by BZ through that backstab when Chojuro of all characters soloed him with a sword stab prior to that happening, and Kaguya had the final fight with Team 7. Naruto was the savior as usual.

He was defeated in a very embarassing way. Even with Rinnegan, he couldn't notice a black goo that isn't suitable for fighting back stab him. Pathetic.
there isn't a single credible narration of those events that has ever called that Madara being defeated. Your interpretation of what happened =/= canon. He was betrayed, never defeated.



Not everything needs to be stated for the audience to know it happened.

It's a given that people voted for Tobirama, considering that if Hashirama wasn't allowed to give Madara the title by just his say, then he wasn't allowed to give the title to his brother just through his say either. The only reason Tobirama had the authority to give the title to Hiruzen through his say was because he was about to die and the Hokages need to be replaced as soon as possible. They were in the middle of a war and far from Konoha- not an opportune time for elections.

Not that it matters in the least whether or not people voted for him. People sided with the Senju, even the Uchiha sided with the Senju over their own leader who just wanted the best for them, Madara. And, of course everyone else was content with the Senju bros ruling as well. The general village population favored both of them over people like Madara. There's also the case of Tobirama being the one to advance Konoha the most with the laws and regulations he set in place. Due to him, Konoha became the strongest country. In the databooks, it was also stated that he was positively received and viewed as someone who was "courageous". Plus, nothing considerably bad happened during his reign (no rebellions, nothing like that).
so basically, you can't show Tobirama being voted in, even when Hashirama's story basically said it was handed to him.
 

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So instead of killing them they can't just step down instead of murdering ppl

It's not that simple. If anything the kages will try to fight him and get the alliance against him.

With the kages gone, the alliance will not have any incentives to go back to the old system, with smoother transitioning to his system.

Not too many nardards can understand this fact.
 
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It's not that simple. If anything the kages will try to fight him and get the alliance against him.

With the kages gone, the alliance will not have any incentives to go back to the old system, with smoother transitioning to his system.

Not too many nardards can understand this fact.
what you guys fail to understand is that no one is going to be inclined to follow Sasuke any more than they were willing to follow Obito or Madara. Sasuke can kill as many ppl as he like; whether they are a Kage or not, ppl will be a lot more inclined to kill Sasuke than following him. The alliance won't give in to the whims of a criminal, let alone a dumb one. You don't have to be a Naruto fan to get this.
 

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there isn't a single credible narration of those events that has ever called that Madara being defeated. Your interpretation of what happened =/= canon. He was betrayed, never defeated.



so basically, you can't show Tobirama being voted in, even when Hashirama's story basically said it was handed to him.

Hashirama was still voted in. Sorry bruh. But you defeated yourself.
 

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So its ok to kill because you don't like the system? So anyone should execute Sasuke after if they don't like his system? you know that way of thinking is stupid and will only lead to anarchy right?
 

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Hashirama was still voted in. Sorry bruh. But you defeated yourself.
this is fail reading comprehension on your part dude. If you read that statement correctly, you would know that i was saying Hashirama gave the title to Tobirama, not that Hashirama was handed the title. I'm well aware he was voted in as Shodai.
 

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Agreed!! Also hidden sound! Kabuto Solos!

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this is fail reading comprehension on your part dude. If you read that statement correctly, you would know that i was saying Hashirama gave the title to Tobirama, not that Hashirama was handed the title. I'm well aware he was voted in as Shodai.

And naturally Tobirama got voted in after him. You have 0 proof that Hashirama handed him the title, especially since it would go against the rules Tobirama set.

Besides even madara knew Tobirama would get chosen to rule after hashirama, despite hashirama's desires.
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what you guys fail to understand is that no one is going to be inclined to follow Sasuke any more than they were willing to follow Obito or Madara. Sasuke can kill as many ppl as he like; whether they are a Kage or not, ppl will be a lot more inclined to kill Sasuke than following him. The alliance won't give in to the whims of a criminal, let alone a dumb one. You don't have to be a Naruto fan to get this.

The greatest criminals are the kages to be honest.

Sasuke dumb? Nice joke brah.
 
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And how did you come to this conclusion that the Kages are criminals? because Sasuke said so?

Gaara was a psychopathic killer,Ay was behind the kidnapping of Hinata that led to the death of Neji's father,and Onoki used Akatsuki as extra muscle.

The only two kage who don't have a shady or dark background are Tsunade and Mei.
 

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Gaara was a psychopathic killer,Ay was behind the kidnapping of Hinata that led to the death of Neji's father,and Onoki used Akatsuki as extra muscle.

The only two kage who don't have a shady or dark background are Tsunade and Mei.
Gaara was made into a weapon at birth which failed, and yes Oonoki used the Akatsuki when they were a Mercernary Gang, Sasuke joined the Akatsuki that wanted to destroy the world his in in any position to judge or create a new system?
 

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Gaara was made into a weapon at birth which failed, and yes Oonoki used the Akatsuki when they were a Mercernary Gang, Sasuke joined the Akatsuki that wanted to destroy the world his in in any position to judge or create a new system?
Nope he isn't.But the entire world is filled with hypocrites,cheats,liars,and people who do messed up things.
 

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Gaara was a psychopathic killer,Ay was behind the kidnapping of Hinata that led to the death of Neji's father,and Onoki used Akatsuki as extra muscle.

The only two kage who don't have a shady or dark background are Tsunade and Mei.

Sasuke was the underling of a psychotic killer that experimented with humans. He later joined the Akatsuki and attempted to capture the jinchuriki of the hidden cloud village. He then infiltrated the kages' meeting, killing several samurai in the process. He left his team mates after they were captured and went after Danzo. In the fight that ensured, he injured Karin and was about to execute her without any good reason until Sakura intervened. He's in no position to judge now is he?
 

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Nope he isn't.But the entire world is filled with hypocrites,cheats,liars,and people who do messed up things.
Then he shouldn't be throwing stones, if he wants peace he should start by killing himself, because he personally infiltrated a village to kidnap they Jinchuriki.
 

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Sasuke is the lesser of the evil.

To this day he hasn't done any killing directly, except for the random samurai fodders who were warned in advance to not mess with him.
 

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People get it, they just don't agree with it. Which is absolutely normal if you ask me...
 

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Then he shouldn't be throwing stones, if he wants peace he should start by killing himself, because he personally infiltrated a village to kidnap they Jinchuriki.

Sasuke shouldn't be the only one who has to do that.
 
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