Who is faster?? Gai in 7th gate or Raikage in his stage 2 mode?

[Gintõki1]

Gai 7th gate ofc.

 

[Kamui Sama]

Hard to say. Ay's shunshin is probably faster but Gai's striking speed is undoubtedly superiour. The gap between their movement speeds is probably quite small though.

lol @ the Guy talking about Gai's speed vs. Kisame. All he did was use hirudora in the 7th gate, he didn't use his speed once against Kisame

 

[Venomous Cobra]

6th gate lee is faster than the raikage

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[SuperChief]

7 Gates Gai is a scrub. KCM Naruto is significantly faster and A is closer.

A was the fastest shinobi alive until KCM Naruto showed up.

 

[xxSAGExx]

Lol ur the only one who said A here xD

Well Gai is known for his taijutsu not his speed while A is known for his speed, strength and durability.

Umm tht was the 7th gate...tht was the Hand sign of hirudora

Yeah I just went back to reread it and deleted the post since I was wrong there haha I still stand by A being faster tho

Kisami didn't go toe to toe with guy, the only way he kept him away was spamming his shark jutsu.

And what happened in the Sasuke vs Deidara fight? Deidara was spamming bombs but Sasuke's speed allowed him to dodge many of them and get in close to Deidara. Sasuke vs Gaara, Sasuke dodged Gaara sand attacks and got in close as did Lee in his fight. Gai went 6 gates on Kisame's clone early in Shippuden and in their last fight Kisame didn't have Samehada which he can fuse with and he usually fight close range because of Samehada.

Madara wasn't fighting A in close combat either and A had 1 arm, he stayed in Susanoo mostly so when would Gaara have saw A's speed+taijutsu? He arrived when A was going to kill Sasuke so he saw none of A's moves in that fight either. Madara couldn't even get A into a genjutsu until A got distracted when another Kage got hurt. Gai isn't known for his speed in the ninja world while A is.

Another reason is that Gai had to learn to fight where he doesn't look a Uchiha in the eye while A's speed can't be read so he doesn't even have to worry about not looking them in the face since if they can't see him then they can't cast any genjutsu.

 

[Aikor]

7 Gates Gai is a scrub. KCM Naruto is significantly faster and A is closer.

A was the fastest shinobi alive until KCM Naruto showed up.

I dont rly think considerin these facts people gave here..yea madara dodged raikage in his full speed but Madara Juubi Mode with SM barely dodged Gai 7th gate

 

[EKSITE]

Hey wht chapter is tht?

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[BlacLord™]

Might Gai. The Eight Gates Formation allows you to gain access to dormant power by releasing limiters placed on the body. The Riakage's lighting shroud is just a boost of strength and speed and protection which is added to you own.

The main purpose of LRA is to stimulate the nervous system by increasing the speed of neural synapses, it does also bring the user to their peak.

His reflexes were so enhanced that he dodged Amaterasu at point-blank, which is near-instant. Gai's punching speed is better but Ay's movement speed and reflexes are superior.

 

[xxSAGExx]

Hard to say. Ay's shunshin is probably faster but Gai's striking speed is undoubtedly superiour. The gap between their movement speeds is probably quite small though.

lol @ the Guy talking about Gai's speed vs. Kisame. All he did was use hirudora in the 7th gate, he didn't use his speed once against Kisame

That's exactly my point, he didn't rely on his speed at all while we have speedster like Lee and Sasuke get in close to their opponents like Gaara or like Deidara for Sasuke. They didn't fight at a distance. If Gai was that much faster then Kisame wouldn't be able to counter him but that wasn't the case to Gai was it? Gai's body is being torn apart and he gets tired out after his big move, he's not known for his speed, only for taijutsu. A was the fastest ninja alive after Minato died and before KM Naruto arrived. 8th Gate Gai is faster no doubt but 7th gate wouldn't be.

 

[xxSAGExx]

I dont rly think considerin these facts people gave here..yea madara dodged raikage in his full speed but Madara Juubi Mode with SM barely dodged Gai 7th gate

Edo Madara had 2 eyes, Juubi Madara only had 1 eye and he didn't have SM anymore or else Sasuke would have used the binding jutsu Hashirama gave him to use on Madara. He probably only needed it to take on the Bijuus or to become Juubi Jin but he didn't have it after. He didn't use his sensory at all in fact as you can see him moving his head around to see Gai. Give Madara both eyes and have Gai try that in 7th gate again. 1 eye means you can only see 1 halve of your body side.

 

[Aikor]

That's exactly my point, he didn't rely on his speed at all while we have speedster like Lee and Sasuke get in close to their opponents like Gaara or like Deidara for Sasuke. They didn't fight at a distance. If Gai was that much faster then Kisame wouldn't be able to counter him but that wasn't the case to Gai was it? Gai's body is being torn apart and he gets tired out after his big move, he's not known for his speed, only for taijutsu. A was the fastest ninja alive after Minato died and before KM Naruto arrived. 8th Gate Gai is faster no doubt but 7th gate wouldn't be.

Well i think lee would be faster than gai in 6th or 7th gate..i mean lee was insanely fast when he opened the 4th gate against gaara..plus gai uses his speed for his punches and kicks..but il say tht if lee opened the 7th gate he would be more faster than gai and maybe than A.cause lee uses his gates for speed onlyy not like gai who uses taijutsu..but if gai could have trained for speed he could ave ultimately gone like 2x faster than 7th gate

 

[xxSAGExx]

Well i think lee would be faster than gai in 6th or 7th gate..i mean lee was insanely fast when he opened the 4th gate against gaara..plus gai uses his speed for his punches and kicks..but il say tht if lee opened the 7th gate he would be more faster than gai and maybe than A.cause lee uses his gates for speed onlyy not like gai who uses taijutsu..but if gai could have trained for speed he could ave ultimately gone like 2x faster than 7th gate

No, Gai is much faster than Lee. Lee was fast for a Genin, both of them were Genins at that point while Gai's base speed is already faster than Lee's base speed so his speed would increase more. Lee uses the gates the same as Gai who taught him his fighting style and how to use the gates. Gai has a more trained body so that's why he can go all gates while Lee can only go 6 gates.

Tsunade knows all about the Gates as do many ninjas like Kakashi and Minato yet A was still said to be the fastest after Minato and before KM Naruto. Madara only had 1 eye so couldn't see as well as he can with 2 eyes.

 

[Kamui Sama]

That's exactly my point, he didn't rely on his speed at all while we have speedster like Lee and Sasuke get in close to their opponents like Gaara or like Deidara for Sasuke. They didn't fight at a distance. If Gai was that much faster then Kisame wouldn't be able to counter him but that wasn't the case to Gai was it? Gai's body is being torn apart and he gets tired out after his big move, he's not known for his speed, only for taijutsu. A was the fastest ninja alive after Minato died and before KM Naruto arrived. 8th Gate Gai is faster no doubt but 7th gate wouldn't be.

Its because of the distance Kisame and Gai where away from each other. No matter how fast Gai is, he would get hit by daikodan because of how far they where. Not even Ay has shown the speed necessary to cover that distance that quickly. All of Ay's blitzes have been at quite a short distance, it was simply a different situation which required a long range attack in Gai's case

 

[Aikor]

No, Gai is much faster than Lee. Lee was fast for a Genin, both of them were Genins at that point while Gai's base speed is already faster than Lee's base speed so his speed would increase more. Lee uses the gates the same as Gai who taught him his fighting style and how to use the gates. Gai has a more trained body so that's why he can go all gates while Lee can only go 6 gates.

Tsunade knows all about the Gates as do many ninjas like Kakashi and Minato yet A was still said to be the fastest after Minato and before KM Naruto. Madara only had 1 eye so couldn't see as well as he can with 2 eyes.

Well i don rly know..i mean majority said gai is faster and u said raikage and u have some points though..lol il go for 50 50..so il say gai is par with A..don wanna go into an argument xD.lets end it here v.v

 

[Raykyryn]

Ay's speed is highly overrated. Even Gaara's sand speed is superior to it by feats lo'L.

 

[-Best-]

A is, Tsunade was surprised Naruto with Kurama's chakra could keep up with A then even out speed A. The Gates do damage to Gai so his speed and fatigue would be declining the longer he's in that mode plus he went 7 gates against a weaken Kisame and his speed did nothing against Kisame. He had to use Afternoon Tiger which Kisame thought was a ninjutsu so it's was lack of Intel that cost Kisame that match, not Gai's speed. Unless you're saying Kisame can out speed and have better eyes than Sasuke's Sharingan when Sasuke couldn't react to A's speed while Kisame was reacting to Gai's.

1. Ahraa..raaa...We got a Logic boi here. So going by your Logic of Guy Vs Kisame. Maybe you should re watch Naruto!. Remeber the Fight between Guy and Kisame during the beginning of Shippuden when the went to rescue Gaara? Kisame was not even able to react to a simple "Close range" Kick by "5th Gate guy".

2. How is Guy's speed > Raikage's?

Did you see the clash between naruto is sage mode and 3rd Raikage? 3rd's speed is equal to 4th!. Naruto with sage mode was easily be able to react to the third raikage in the nick of time. Now Madara with the most Powerful Sage mode, which was even able to counter the instant "Flying Thunder God" Technique along with the rinnegan's Tracking was "Barely" able to dodge 7th gate guy.

Raikage's Speed level is 1 means.
Guy at 7th gate is around 10-15 I would say!.

 

[xxSAGExx]

Its because of the distance Kisame and Gai where away from each other. No matter how fast Gai is, he would get hit by daikodan because of how far they where. Not even Ay has shown the speed necessary to cover that distance that quickly. All of Ay's blitzes have been at quite a short distance, it was simply a different situation which required a long range attack in Gai's case

This distance?

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A was about that distance from Sasuke, Sasuke was fatter back than that from Deidara. Kisame only mentioned Gai's punching speed but he didn't seem worried about it at all

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. Tsunade who have knowledge of Gai was talking about how it's amazing for Naruto with Kurama's power was capable of keeping up with A who is known for his speed being the fastest after Minato's. No one ever said oh that's Gai the fastest in the world or anything like that.

Also how is he faster than A when he needs to fight an Uchiha in a way where he doesn't look at their eyes while A speed alone ensures that he would be caught in a genjutsu? When your rival is the fastest in the world you will be focused on your speed. Gai rival was Kakashi and he focused on how to fight a Sharingan user.

Well i don rly know..i mean majority said gai is faster and u said raikage and u have some points though..lol il go for 50 50..so il say gai is par with A..don wanna go into an argument xD.lets end it here v.v

Read what I said up there^ do you think someone who's rival is the fastest ninja and focus on trying to beat the fastest ninja is not faster than Gai who rival is Kakashi and focused on learning to fight a Sharingan user? A's speed alone renders the Sharingan, both 3 tomoes and MS users, useless while that has never been shown with Gai who only fight with a true Uchiha had 1 eye and even then he wasn't overwhelming him. Blind Madara speed blitz SM Naruto and Sai, from then on Madara only been nerfed.

Have you not noticed Madara not using any of his jutsus that he used pre-Juubi Jin? He used more against the 5 Kages than Gai. Against A, Madara was using Susanoo, wood clones, absorbing ninjutsus, attacking A's comrades, overwhelming him with 5 clones per Kage. Gai didn't have to worry about all of that and he has both arms while fighting a 1 eye Madara. People like to comrade Madara fight with them but even though Edo Madara is weaker, he more than enough made up for the power differences between him and Juubi Jin Madara by having both eyes, attacking A's comrades, using 5 clones per each Kage, staying in Susanoo.

 

[-Best-]

This distance?

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A was about that distance from Sasuke, Sasuke was fatter back than that from Deidara. Kisame only mentioned Gai's punching speed but he didn't seem worried about it at all

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. Tsunade who have knowledge of Gai was talking about how it's amazing for Naruto with Kurama's power was capable of keeping up with A who is known for his speed being the fastest after Minato's. No one ever said oh that's Gai the fastest in the world or anything like that.

Also how is he faster than A when he needs to fight an Uchiha in a way where he doesn't look at their eyes while A speed alone ensures that he would be caught in a genjutsu? When your rival is the fastest in the world you will be focused on your speed. Gai rival was Kakashi and he focused on how to fight a Sharingan user.



Read what I said up there^ do you think someone who's rival is the fastest ninja and focus on trying to beat the fastest ninja is not faster than Gai who rival is Kakashi and focused on learning to fight a Sharingan user? A's speed alone renders the Sharingan, both 3 tomoes and MS users, useless while that has never been shown with Gai who only fight with a true Uchiha had 1 eye and even then he wasn't overwhelming him. Blind Madara speed blitz SM Naruto and Sai, from then on Madara only been nerfed.

Have you not noticed Madara not using any of his jutsus that he used pre-Juubi Jin? He used more against the 5 Kages than Gai. Against A, Madara was using Susanoo, wood clones, absorbing ninjutsus, attacking A's comrades, overwhelming him with 5 clones per Kage. Gai didn't have to worry about all of that and he has both arms while fighting a 1 eye Madara. People like to comrade Madara fight with them but even though Edo Madara is weaker, he more than enough made up for the power differences between him and Juubi Jin Madara by having both eyes, attacking A's comrades, using 5 clones per each Kage, staying in Susanoo.

See you don't seem to understand the Eight inner Gates completely!. Raikage's Lightning armour is something which he can activate at any time. Meaning he relies on the Lightning armour almost in every battle. The same is with FTG. Instant teleportation technique. Gai's Base speed in not Fast. His speed is fast only after opening the Eight Inner Gates.

Due you know the effects of Eight Inner Gates? Did you see what happened to Guy after Opening the 7th Gate? Even a simple touch was terrible pain to him. How do you expect to use that every time while fighting a Rival match?

You whole argument of "If he is faster than A why does he need to focus on not seeing their eyes" is completely pointless.

 

[NSUNSR]

With 7 Gates Guy is a lot faster than A.

See you don't seem to understand the Eight inner Gates completely!. Raikage's Lightning armour is something which he can activate at any time. Meaning he relies on the Lightning armour almost in every battle. The same is with FTG. Instant teleportation technique. Gai's Base speed in not Fast. His speed is fast only after opening the Eight Inner Gates.

Due you know the effects of Eight Inner Gates? Did you see what happened to Guy after Opening the 7th Gate? Even a simple touch was terrible pain to him. How do you expect to use that every time while fighting a Rival match?

You whole argument of "If he is faster than A why does he need to focus on not seeing their eyes" is completely pointless.

Base Guy has 5/5 in speed.

 

[Bronze]

His reflexes were so enhanced that he dodged Amaterasu at point-blank, which is near-instant. Gai's punching speed is better but Ay's movement speed and reflexes are superior.

Reflexes and speed aren't the same thing.

OT: Gai is faster. He almost took Madara out by a surprise, whereas Edo Madara could react perfectly to Ay.​