Eight gate guy vs post shinju madara (conditions)

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So this Eight gate guy vs rikoudo madara post shinju absorbed with one rinnegnan. (Basically the madara before he got his second rinnengan)

Location: same as they fought in manga
Conditions: madara has one eye and can't regenerate.

Also remember that this madara only had one Goudama since he already lost the others to minato.

Who wins?
 

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Eventually it comes down to Night Moth, which destroys 1/4 of Madara like it did in Canon (But does not kill him) while Gai becomes a cripple and incapacitated. Madara simply waits half a minute till Gai dies and Madara can die in peace. Madara wins Extreme-Diff.
 

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Then he jumped back and parried all of Gai's attacks while doing so, proof that he wasn't blitzed.
No no no. Don't confuse the two, Madara was knocked back, but that's irrelevant as the occured after the blitz.

Following the previous scan, Madara was still in the same position, shielding himself from the debris as Gai entered into the 7th Gate.


Minato mentioned not to touch the blk spheres, as he made contact with Madara.


Also, to address the "Madara jumped back" statement. The incorrect, at least if you're implying that Gai didn't contact any blows, as he landed four, indicated by the white spots drawn by Kish.
 

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No no no. Don't confuse the two, Madara was knocked back, but that's irrelevant as the occured after the blitz.

Following the previous scan, Madara was still in the same position, shielding himself from the debris as Gai entered into the 7th Gate.


Minato mentioned not to touch the blk spheres, as he made contact with Madara.


Also, to address the "Madara jumped back" statement. The incorrect, at least if you're implying that Gai didn't contact any blows, as he landed four, indicated by the white spots drawn by Kish.
If Gai had hit Madara and Madara failed to block his attacks (which he didn't) then yes, it'd be a blitz. Except he reacted to Gai's subsequent attack, so it wasn't a blitz.

-He blocked 8th Gate Gai's attack.


-You can see him following Gai's movements.


-And he blocks his attack.


8th Gate Gai can't outright blitz Madara, so 7th Gate Gai isn't doing it either.

I know that he landed blows, but that wasn't a blitz.
 

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Madara wins this unfortunately. Absorbing the tree made him immortal, so Gai can't kill him. Not when Sasuke bisected the guy and yet nothing happened to him.
 

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If Gai had hit Madara and Madara failed to block his attacks (which he didn't) then yes, it'd be a blitz. Except he reacted to Gai's subsequent attack, so it wasn't a blitz.

-He blocked 8th Gate Gai's attack.


-You can see him following Gai's movements.


-And he blocks his attack.


8th Gate Gai can't outright blitz Madara, so 7th Gate Gai isn't doing it either.

I know that he landed blows, but that wasn't a blitz.
You overestimate shinobi.

The reason it was a blitz, Madara remained in the same position prior to Gai approaching. He didn't block/defend against that strike and nothing indicates that he could. The "!" in fact illustrates that he couldn't.

1) Madara was in mid-swing as Gai blitz in front of him, Gai paused and went for a strike. As shown Here:


We see Madara again caught by surprise and instead of Gai striking instantly, Gai elevated/paused momentarily. This allowing Madara to swing out of frustration, which is the scan you posted it's written all over his face. Also, Gai connected before Madara could "block" as the middle panels show Madara still bringing his arm down to intercept. Again, this fail attempt shows his frustration in the following scan.

2)He wasn't keeping up with Gai's movement, he was simply trying to predict his whereabouts. We've seen this several times in the manga, wher an opponent can't keep up with another's speed but analyze the situation.
Ex)
Garra couldn't keep up with Lee as shown here yet was trying to analyzing/predict his movements. Similarly eyeing Lee as Madara did
Ex #2)
Sasuke couldn't keep up with Ay, as stated, yet was scanning the room trying to flow his movements. In predicting his whereabouts he was able to counter, NOT because he was able to follow his movements.

3) as mentioned above, he did what Sasuke did against Ay.


7th gate blitz.
 
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