[Discussion] An important trait of Hagoromo's personality

[phoenixstark]

I highly doubt that Hagoromo had both seals and sealing the mother gave one moment at Hamura. Hamura had his seal and his powers, Kaguya gave his powers to both children. We don't know what were Hamura's powers, sure Kishimoto will put this character and will have some relevance, otherwise he'd never spoken.

 

[Draxus]

2nd point: I don't change the facts in such a way. What I'm doing is to try and write a revolutionary theory in a sense that it opposes most of what it was shown so far in manga. For that reason, no matter how I was trying to proceed I would always end up "ignoring" facts. It's like me trying to prove that Itachi was a bad guy before his battle with Sasuke has occured. How am I supposed to do that without "ignoring" manga facts that were proving otherwise?

That's what I call fanfiction not theory crafting but okay, if that's what you're into. However I'm more interested in the truth about characters (author's intent) rather than how I would like to envision them.

3rd point: The way you wrote that about CT was as if you were implying that if Hagoromo had given his seal to Hamura, then the latter would be able to use CT even without rinnegan just because he had the 2 seals, that's what I understood at least.

What I mean was Hagoromo gave the moon seal to Hamura so that he could help create the CT. Having the seal doesn't mean you can do CT on your own, having the rinnegan does. The seal is the link to that power. Like I said before, Sasuke can do CT on his own, but it wouldn't be strong enough to seal Kaguya.

4th point: I guess it makes sense what you're saying but I'm confused as far as Hagoromo's ability to keep an eye on his transmigrates goes.

As am I, I'm pretty sure Kishi left it ambiguous on purpose so he doesn't create too huge a plot hole.

 

[Byron123]

That's what I call fanfiction not theory crafting but okay, if that's what you're into. However I'm more interested in the truth about characters (author's intent) rather than how I would like to envision them.


What I mean was Hagoromo gave the moon seal to Hamura so that he could help create the CT. Having the seal doesn't mean you can do CT on your own, having the rinnegan does. The seal is the link to that power. Like I said before, Sasuke can do CT on his own, but it wouldn't be strong enough to seal Kaguya.



As am I, I'm pretty sure Kishi left it ambiguous on purpose so he doesn't create too huge a plot hole.

1st point: It's not like you present it, I'm not negative just for being negative and for creating the story the way I want but because Hagoromo genuinely left me with this impression or at the very least because he seemed quite mystical.

2nd point: I agree

3rd: No comment, probably you're right.

 

[narutoblitz]

A lot about Sage doesn't add up, like how he got the crescent moon. Sad fact of this is Madara may have been right about the Sage.

 

[Draxus]

1st point: It's not like you present it, I'm not negative just for being negative and for creating the story the way I want but because Hagoromo genuinely left me with this impression or at the very least because he seemed quite mystical.

2nd point: I agree

3rd: No comment, probably you're right.

Fair enough, looks like we pretty much came to an understanding on everything.

 

[Byron123]

Fair enough, looks like we pretty much came to an understanding on everything.

Indeed, it's very rare and strange to see that, we didn't even call each other names XD